Trump Supporters on Hitler

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Hmm..... Looks like they probably would have voted for him :D

[video=youtube;5NzhQWcc7h4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzhQWcc7h4[/video]
 

Elizabeth619

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You could do the same thing to Hillary and the response would be the same
 

Desdichado

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Not a Trump fan (or a Hitler fan for that matter)(I have that pesky Jewish instinct for self-preservation).

The trouble with most of the quotes is that most of them are vague and not particular to Nazism. While the one gentleman sounded like a moron when he continued to insist that he would support the Hitler quotes if they were Trumps, he did (I think unknowingly), tap into a deeper point- the importance of context.

If the interviewer shared more easily contextualized quotes, then we would be more justified in saying "these people would vote for Hitler."
 
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Not a Trump fan (or a Hitler fan for that matter)(I have that pesky Jewish instinct for self-preservation).

The trouble with most of the quotes is that most of them are vague and not particular to Nazism. While the one gentleman sounded like a moron when he continued to insist that he would support the Hitler quotes if they were Trumps, he did (I think unknowingly), tap into a deeper point- the importance of context.

If the interviewer shared more easily contextualized quotes, then we would be more justified in saying "these people would vote for Hitler."
Haha well I wouldn't say "Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice" is a really vague quote. Especially since 9/10 of our Christian duties involves forms of humanitarianism.

Also, "I don't see why man should not be just as cruel as nature" is another quote that is totally opposite of any Christian idea, but also one that these people could easily see Trump making.

The point is that these quotes (as morbid as some of them are) could so easily have been made by Trump, because both Trump and Hitler have/had the same ideals and visions. And Trump is using the same propaganda tactics as Hitler and people are eating it up. Trump is the only candidate encouraging his supporters to incite violence on any protesters at his rallies (Phil Aselmo much?)

The problem is that Hitler brainwashed a whole country into a "patriotic duty" to support him and Germany. That meant attacking all opposition, foreign or domestic. Even if it meant giving up their freedoms.

The same can and will easily be said for Donald Trump.

But hey, lets make Germerica great again guys.
 
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Bushido8000...if only your propaganda was focused on JESUS CHRIST, it would have eternal value and not be in vain. Your post will die by tomorrow and blows like dust in the wind. 100 years from now, your comment means nothing (let me be totally blantantly honest: It means NOTHING now). However, why not do your "CHRISTIAN DUTY" and boast, brag, reflect and offer us more about JESUS and less about your political spin. Let the SPIN stop here and the Victory celebration of JESUS start!!!!!
 
Jan 24, 2012
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Bushido8000...if only your propaganda was focused on JESUS CHRIST, it would have eternal value and not be in vain. Your post will die by tomorrow and blows like dust in the wind. 100 years from now, your comment means nothing (let me be totally blantantly honest: It means NOTHING now). However, why not do your "CHRISTIAN DUTY" and boast, brag, reflect and offer us more about JESUS and less about your political spin. Let the SPIN stop here and the Victory celebration of JESUS start!!!!!
The problem I face is that I could sing of Jesus' praise and love all day on here but it would be largely rejected because American Christians have largely followed a path of Jihad, which is the same thing we are condemning ISIS for, and Trump will be the man leading these Christians in these atrocious acts.

This year is one where our Faith will largely split I believe. I have a hunch (it's just a hunch) that in 3 years when I talk about Jesus and one of Trump's henchmen talk about Jesus, we might not be talking about the same Jesus.
 

Desdichado

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The point is that these quotes (as morbid as some of them are) could so easily have been made by Trump, because both Trump and Hitler have/had the same ideals and visions. And Trump is using the same propaganda tactics as Hitler and people are eating it up. Trump is the only candidate encouraging his supporters to incite violence on any protesters at his rallies (Phil Aselmo much?)
I suppose I have to hand it to you on this one. The Nazis were elected on vague buzzwords and promises of a return to national glory, not a proposed program of genocide. Similar forces are certainly at work.

If these folks were Germans in the 1930's, chances are they would be susceptible to Nazi propaganda. Does that conclusively prove they would have voted for the Nazi regime? No. I happen to believe that Hitler was able to do what he did and people allowed him to do what he did due to many factors peculiar to Germany at that point in history.

But again, you make a decent point. Such is the lack of critical thought in this world today. Not to mention a concern for morality.
 
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Another conspiracy thread
 

Desdichado

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Hardly a conspiracy. Perhaps a liberal use of exaggeration to prove a point, but it isn't a bad point.

Really, I can't see how it fits the definition of conspiracy any which way.
 
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Well the Nazis started as a gay left-wing political club .. the idea that it relates to trump in any way has to take some conspiracy logic along the way... I admit I didn't watch the video and don't plan to.
 

JesusLives

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Sounds like the dumbing down of America is now complete.....
 
Jan 24, 2012
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Hardly a conspiracy. Perhaps a liberal use of exaggeration to prove a point, but it isn't a bad point.

Really, I can't see how it fits the definition of conspiracy any which way.
He usually shouts "conspiracy" when the bullets of reality graze his ears from time to time. It's a self-defense mechanism for him I guess.

I suppose I have to hand it to you on this one. The Nazis were elected on vague buzzwords and promises of a return to national glory, not a proposed program of genocide. Similar forces are certainly at work.

If these folks were Germans in the 1930's, chances are they would be susceptible to Nazi propaganda. Does that conclusively prove they would have voted for the Nazi regime? No. I happen to believe that Hitler was able to do what he did and people allowed him to do what he did due to many factors peculiar to Germany at that point in history.

But again, you make a decent point. Such is the lack of critical thought in this world today. Not to mention a concern for morality.
I totally agree with the point in time remark. I don't think Trump's regime would be met with zero resistance now. I think there would be some protest but unfortunately we are facing someone who is a clear sociopath and would have no regard for brutality against his opposition, and neither will his supporters.
 

Desdichado

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Nailed it. Thank you.
But you couldn't do the same thing with other politicians. Take Ron Paul, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz. There is no way you could attribute some of those words to any of those men.

Particularly that bit about nature.
 
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I wonder if all of these folks who are trying to demonize Trump realize what's going to happen if they are somehow successful in thwarting Trump's nomination, resulting in a brokered convention? He will simply run as an independent royally screwing any chance of a Republican being elected.
 
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But you couldn't do the same thing with other politicians. Take Ron Paul, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz. There is no way you could attribute some of those words to any of those men.

Particularly that bit about nature.
^This, also I couldn't even see Hilary making any of those quotes in the video. Maybe all of Hitler's anti-gun policy quotes.
 

Desdichado

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I wonder if all of these folks who are trying to demonize Trump realize what's going to happen if they are somehow successful in thwarting Trump's nomination, resulting in a brokered convention? He will simply run as an independent royally screwing any chance of a Republican being elected.
If he is nominated, there is a strong chance there will be no Republican Party as we know it.
 

Desdichado

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^This, also I couldn't even see Hilary making any of those quotes in the video. Maybe all of Hitler's anti-gun policy quotes.
They would have to make a special Lenin addition for her.
 
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I wonder if all of these folks who are trying to demonize Trump realize what's going to happen if they are somehow successful in thwarting Trump's nomination, resulting in a brokered convention? He will simply run as an independent royally screwing any chance of a Republican being elected.
The folks attacking Trump are liberals .. Like Mitt Romney