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p_rehbein

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I'm sure some of you have heard of the Super-Pac ad being run in Utah about Trumps wife posing nude........to influence voter to vote for Cruz.....

While I think the Ad is pure "slime politics," I DO NOT agree with the IMPLICATIONS being made in the Media and by Trumps own son on Fox and Friends that this is a Cruz Ad.

Cruz had nothing to do with the Ad........the Super-Pac is responsible for the Ad, and to try and smear Cruz with it is just as much "smear politics" as was Cruz implying that somehow Trump was responsible for the attacks in Brussels yesterday. I called out Cruz for that, and, to be fair, I'm calling out the Media and Trumps son for the same "dirty tricks/slime politics" with this.

I hesitate to post the link.........because it does have a picture of the Lady in question in the nude....so, if someone wants to read the article, it is on Yahoo News Page......

Super-Pacs INTENTIONALLY do not consult the Candidate they favor concerning the content of the Ads they create, and BOTH sides have Super-Pacs that engage in such junk...........
 

p_rehbein

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And Trump is responding "in kind......." sigh

Donald Trump threatens to 'spill the beans' on Ted Cruz's wife over Melania ad

The race for the Republican nomination has devolved into a war over wives. Donald Trump tweeted on Tuesday evening that he would "spill the beans" on GOP rival Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, over an ad using photos from Melania Trump's photoshoot with GQ.

The problem? Those ads didn't come from Cruz's campaign.

They were released by the anti-Trump super PAC Make America Awesome, run by Republican strategist Liz Mair. According to BuzzFeed News, the ads featuring Melania Trump are being promoted on Instagram, exclusively to Mormon women. Mair took credit for the ads in tweets on Tuesday night. Mair also suggested that Trump's campaign has been "pushing around rumors" that Heidi Cruz — who took a leave ...
 
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On the one hand I think trump should stop crying about it. On the other I think it's just a catalyst to stay at the top of the news cycle and that is a big part of his strategy.
 

p_rehbein

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yes, especially when one realizes the ad concerning his wife was only in Utah.........were it not for the Media and his family/supporters, would ANY of the rest of the world even known about it?
 
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yes, especially when one realizes the ad concerning his wife was only in Utah.........were it not for the Media and his family/supporters, would ANY of the rest of the world even known about it?
Probably not. I think trump sees his wife's past as an asset. She's an immigrant who had a measure of success and she brings a whole block of googly eyed voters. Lol
 
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jennymae

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I'm not sure the country needs misty eyed assets in the race...:p
 

PennEd

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For those of us struggling to understand why so many Christians and others are supporting Trump, aside from the fact the the GOP lied to us in 2010,2012 and 2014 about stopping obama, look no further than THIS story:

Student punished for criticizing vegetarian | Fox News


There is a fascist movement throughout the country hidden under the guise of political correctness. Don't let them fool you, there is no difference between the extreme right (Fascism) and the extreme left (Socialism/communism) Both have an ultimate goal of total control over you.
 
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yes, especially when one realizes the ad concerning his wife was only in Utah.........were it not for the Media and his family/supporters, would ANY of the rest of the world even known about it?
There you go again, calling me out. :)
 
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For those of us struggling to understand why so many Christians and others are supporting Trump, aside from the fact the the GOP lied to us in 2010,2012 and 2014 about stopping obama, look no further than THIS story:

Student punished for criticizing vegetarian | Fox News


There is a fascist movement throughout the country hidden under the guise of political correctness. Don't let them fool you, there is no difference between the extreme right (Fascism) and the extreme left (Socialism/communism) Both have an ultimate goal of total control over you.
Political correctness is tyranny of the intellectual elite upon the masses.

Mind control pure and simple. I'm locked and loaded.
 
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kaylagrl

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For those of us struggling to understand why so many Christians and others are supporting Trump, aside from the fact the the GOP lied to us in 2010,2012 and 2014 about stopping obama, look no further than THIS story:

Student punished for criticizing vegetarian | Fox News


There is a fascist movement throughout the country hidden under the guise of political correctness. Don't let them fool you, there is no difference between the extreme right (Fascism) and the extreme left (Socialism/communism) Both have an ultimate goal of total control over you.

I understand that bullying can get out of hand but shouldn't a teacher be able to handle that? This is a non issue. Any teacher with discernment could handle it. But to get law involved? It's beyond me. Its like the boy who made his pop tart
into the shape of a gun by eating it. I'm so glad I decided not to have children. If a teacher came to me with this foolishness... You'd see my mug on the news every night. Just so stunned they way these people get on. Who thought we'd
long for the days when kids would just sock each other in the eye and be done with it?
 
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kaylagrl

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Political correctness is tyranny of the intellectual elite upon the masses.

Mind control pure and simple. I'm locked and loaded.

I'm sorry brother I have to disagree with you... the use of the word "intellectual" is out of place when speaking of the leftist tree huggers. Hysterical,possibly but not "intellectual".
 
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I'm sorry brother I have to disagree with you... the use of the word "intellectual" is out of place when speaking of the leftist tree huggers. Hysterical,possibly but not "intellectual".
Believe me, typing that words was almost like chewing glass, but let us remember, intellectual does not mean smart. These drones don't even have common sense. So I know where you're coming from. However, they flock together in colleges, the media and Hollywood. We know their kind. Thanks for always looking out for me, Sister.
 
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Any man who loves his wife knows how livid Mr. Trump must have been at that moment and can understand how he made a simple mistake on twitter while trying to come to her defense..


..and by the way is this really what the GOP has stooped to??!! I understand the GOP itself did not run the ad but I can't believe they or Cruz did not know about it before it aired.
 
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kaylagrl

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Believe me, typing that words was almost like chewing glass, but let us remember, intellectual does not mean smart. These drones don't even have common sense. So I know where you're coming from. However, they flock together in colleges, the media and Hollywood. We know their kind. Thanks for always looking out for me, Sister.
Lol,I have your back whether you want me to or not. jk. You are certainly right common sense and intellectual are two different things. Professing themselves wise comes to mind.
 

Desdichado

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"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." - William F. Buckley Jr.
 

Oncefallen

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Any man who loves his wife knows how livid Mr. Trump must have been at that moment and can understand how he made a simple mistake on twitter while trying to come to her defense..
Personally I don't think Trump has a right to be mad about this. His wife of her own free volition did a photo shoot with GQ magazine, she of her own free volition signed a contract that gave her money and gave GQ magazine rights to use the pictures as they saw fit. How can someone be mad when someone made public that which was already public??

Anyone running for public office should expect that every thing they (and their spouses) have said or done is going to become public. If they don't want their skeletons getting rattled and their dirty laundry aired out they shouldn't run.


..and by the way is this really what the GOP has stooped to??!! I understand the GOP itself did not run the ad but I can't believe they or Cruz did not know about it before it aired.
Super PACS are completely independent of ANY candidate's campaign, they have to be by the very laws that allow them to exist. The support (or oppose) who the choose to however they choose to without consulting those they choose to support (or oppose). That's why the ads that are put out directly by a candidate's campaign typically have the little blurb at the end, "I'm so and so and I approved this message." and ads put out by PACS typically have a disclaimer specifically saying something to the effect of, "this ad was not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee."

PS. I do agree that it was a cheap shot and dirty politics at it's lowest, but that's what politics have become in the past few decades regardless of party. It's not so much about how good I am and my great ideas will improve the country, but how to undermine my opponent in any way possible.

If you think this was bad wait until the primaries are over and the gloves come off for the general election.
 

p_rehbein

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Originally Posted by p_rehbein

yes, especially when one realizes the ad concerning his wife was only in Utah.........were it not for the Media and his family/supporters, would ANY of the rest of the world even known about it?



There you go again, calling me out. :)




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Desdichado

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When you enter politics, everything you have said or done and whoever you have been associated with will come under scrutiny.

Personally, I hope Trump goes after Cruz's wife from a strategic standpoint. If it comes from his official campaign, it would look extremely petty. Say goodbye to delegates.
 

p_rehbein

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Prophetic wishes?

Donald Trump shared an unflattering picture of Ted Cruz's wife - Business Insider

The images are worth a thousand words': Trump shares an unflattering photo of Ted Cruz's wife

Donald Trump has shared an unflattering photo of Sen. Ted Cruz's wife — the latest wrinkle in an ongoing feud between the two Republican presidential primary candidates. The photo was part of a tweet that the GOP frontrunner shared on Wednesday night. The tweet read, "A picture is worth a thousand words," and featured a photo of Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a picture of Trump's wife, Melania. A caption on the photo reads, "No need to 'spill the beans.' The images are worth a thousand words." Sen. Cruz of Texas responded, saying "Donald, real men don't attack women. Your wife is lovely, and Heidi is the love of my life." The latest digital dust-up between the two US presidential candidates ...

Now, his supporters will INSIST that he is REALLY a very nice, considerate and CLASSY guy who is just misunderstood.

(sigh)

 

Desdichado

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Prophetic wishes?

Donald Trump shared an unflattering picture of Ted Cruz's wife - Business Insider

The images are worth a thousand words': Trump shares an unflattering photo of Ted Cruz's wife

Donald Trump has shared an unflattering photo of Sen. Ted Cruz's wife — the latest wrinkle in an ongoing feud between the two Republican presidential primary candidates. The photo was part of a tweet that the GOP frontrunner shared on Wednesday night. The tweet read, "A picture is worth a thousand words," and featured a photo of Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a picture of Trump's wife, Melania. A caption on the photo reads, "No need to 'spill the beans.' The images are worth a thousand words." Sen. Cruz of Texas responded, saying "Donald, real men don't attack women. Your wife is lovely, and Heidi is the love of my life." The latest digital dust-up between the two US presidential candidates ...

Now, his supporters will INSIST that he is REALLY a very nice, considerate and CLASSY guy who is just misunderstood.

(sigh)

Who on here said this profligate would bring class back to the White House?