Donald Trump (the Christian) says he doesn't ask God for forgiveness.

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KimPetras

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Question: But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?

Trump: I'm not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so. If I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't.

How can a person claim to be a Christian when they don't bring God "into the picture" when asking for forgiveness? Was it not Christ's main purpose to atone for the sins of mankind so that we could be made clean again if we accept Christ as our personal Lord and Saviour? Can man "just try and make it right" and clean himself to enter the kingdom of God?

[video=youtube;A3l0e6nS9oI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3l0e6nS9oI[/video]

Sorry, this is not an April fools thread... I wish that it was.

(Note: This video was taken at the Family Leadership Summit in 2015... not in the 90s.)
 
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sealabeag

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You're such a Trump hater! :p Seriously though, are some people arguing that he IS a Christian? I would definitely not recommend anyone vote for him on that basis, or they will be sorely disappointed.
 
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KimPetras said:
Question: But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?

Trump: I'm not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so. If I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't.

How can a person claim to be a Christian when they don't bring God "into the picture" when asking for forgiveness? Was it not Christ's main purpose to atone for the sins of mankind so that we could be made clean again if we accept Christ as our personal Lord and Saviour? Can man "just try and make it right" and clean himself to enter the kingdom of God?

[video=youtube;A3l0e6nS9oI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3l0e6nS9oI[/video]

Sorry, this is not an April fools thread... I wish that it was.

(Note: This video was taken at the Family Leadership Summit in 2015... not in the 90s.)
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you should ask the 80% of Americans who identify as Christian.
 
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There's a ton of people who claim to be "christian", who don't bring God into the picture. I'm beginning to believe it's the most overused word in the English language. However, if I were to vote (7 months too young, *snap!*) I'd keep in mind that I'm not voting for a religious leader. Sure, I'd trust someone who was ACTUALLY Christian to represent me better, but people can be good world leaders without being Christian. This won't fly, but sometimes you vote AGAINST someone, and if it comes to this, I'd rather have Trump than Hillary.
 
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Tinuviel said:
There's a ton of people who claim to be "christian", who don't bring God into the picture. I'm beginning to believe it's the most overused word in the English language. However, if I were to vote (7 months too young, *snap!*) I'd keep in mind that I'm not voting for a religious leader. Sure, I'd trust someone who was ACTUALLY Christian to represent me better, but people can be good world leaders without being Christian. This won't fly, but sometimes you vote AGAINST someone, and if it comes to this, I'd rather have Trump than Hillary.
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Definitely agree, there's a huge number of "cultural Christians" who identify as such but in reality aren't living Christian lives. The problem here is that Trump is trying to fool Christians into believing he's a practising Christian. The evidence is that he isn't. He wants every vote he can get. Nonetheless, he's better than Hillary all day long.
 
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I don't think people are supporting Trump because of his faith.

If I had to pick among Trump, Clinton, and Sanders, though, he'd still come closest to what I view as Christian.

Using this argument about not repenting, though, how much different is it if, say, Clinton or Sanders* might possibly ask for forgiveness on a number of issues yet still support abortion on demand and fake marriage?


*-Sanders claims to be Jewish.
 
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Im sorry but you cant say hey im christian i go to church and i do this and that thats not being christian i mean to be christian you have god in your life like your best friend you cant just say hey i believe and not have god it dont work like that he claims to be christian because he goes to church and the wine he drinks, no its just no right i mean im not hate n on him cuz hes not religious im just saying hey look red light
 
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Have to agree with some of the post, Trump has a choice just like Hilliary, Sanders, and anyone else to serve God, people make choices every day without consulting God even when they may eat a bowl of cereal, or drive down the road and decide on the speed their gonna drive or the turn their gonna take, so let God decide on his mind set, but the Christian should always pray for guidance in all decisions even when it comes to voting for a nonbeliever.
 
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The guy went to church since he was a kid...I'm sure he qualifies as a Christian in the political sense. Now who anyone really is in Christ is ONLY really known by the Lord.
 
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Your house is on fire and you can choose one person to put out the fire:

1: A Christian fireman with no water.

2: A non-Christian fireman with ample amounts of water.

Who's your choice?

America is on fire; I don't care about the faith of the person who can extinguish the fire.
 
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sealabeag

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Utah said:
Your house is on fire and you can choose one person to put out the fire:

1: A Christian fireman with no water.

2: A non-Christian fireman with ample amounts of water.

Who's your choice?

America is on fire; I don't care about the faith of the person who can extinguish the fire.
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I appreciate the sentiment, but the guy is disingenuous. If he's willing to lie about one thing, then he's willing to lie about anything. Therefore how can he believed, ever? It's not about if he is a Christian in his personal life, it's about him lying about it.
 
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Politicians lie; its what they do. I'll take Trump for eight, Alex.
 
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sealabeag

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Isn't that the sad truth.
 
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silvercreastsaleana said:
Im sorry but you cant say hey im christian i go to church and i do this and that thats not being christian i mean to be christian you have god in your life like your best friend you cant just say hey i believe and not have god it dont work like that he claims to be christian because he goes to church and the wine he drinks, no its just no right i mean im not hate n on him cuz hes not religious im just saying hey look red light
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Wow...where's the punctuation!? Yuck!

I'm sorry, but you can't say "Hey, I'm Christian, I go to church, and I do this and that." That's not being Christian. I mean, to be Christian, you have God in your life...like your best friend. You can't just say "Hey, I believe" and not have God. It doesn't work like that. He claims to be Christian because he goes to church and the wine he drinks. No, it's just not right! I mean, I'm not hating on him because he's not religious. I'm just saying "Hey, look...RED LIGHT". -silvercreastsaleana

Much easier to read, isn't it? It looks more intelligent, too.

Trump, by the way, says he doesn't drink. His older brother died due to an alcohol problem.
 
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Trump might be stretching the truth about being a Christian, but as far as I know, he's never been in attendance with many of the other ultra-rich at Bohemian Grove sacrificing to Moloch/Baal/Satan. Some of the other candidates on either side, I'm not quite so sure about.
 
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sealabeag said:
I appreciate the sentiment, but the guy is disingenuous. If he's willing to lie about one thing, then he's willing to lie about anything. Therefore how can he believed, ever? It's not about if he is a Christian in his personal life, it's about him lying about it.
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Not a good way to make friends here buddy ... :(
 
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Utah said:
Your house is on fire and you can choose one person to put out the fire:

1: A Christian fireman with no water.

2: A non-Christian fireman with ample amounts of water.

Who's your choice?

America is on fire; I don't care about the faith of the person who can extinguish the fire.
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1, obviously!

If the Christian fireman, who follows the Lord faithfully and lives by the Word of God, has no water, then he will pray to God and water will rain...Elijah did it.

But if you go for choice 2, then you should always know there's a catch...(that's why its good to have insurance).
 
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Mitspa said:
Not a good way to make friends here buddy ... :(
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Surely I can voice my opinion? I disagree with my friends about lots of things. :)
 
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sealabeag said:
Definitely agree, there's a huge number of "cultural Christians" who identify as such but in reality aren't living Christian lives. The problem here is that Trump is trying to fool Christians into believing he's a practising Christian. The evidence is that he isn't. He wants every vote he can get. Nonetheless, he's better than Hillary all day long.[/QUOTE]

I "liked" you comment, even though the embolden part is "moot" at the very least....... :) There's been no evidence of this so far......
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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
I don't think people are supporting Trump because of his faith.

If I had to pick among Trump, Clinton, and Sanders, though, he'd still come closest to what I view as Christian.

Using this argument about not repenting, though, how much different is it if, say, Clinton or Sanders* might possibly ask for forgiveness on a number of issues yet still support abortion on demand and fake marriage?


*-Sanders claims to be Jewish.
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I did not know "close" counted in the choice to be a servant of Christ or not......... Hmm.......maybe I been doing it wrong?
 
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