Bernie on Abortion: ‘Anytime, Anywhere.’ Why He’s Evil....

Spoonfulofsugar · Apr 9, 2016

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"Leftists like to claim that they aren’t ‘pro-abortion.” They’re just… *place market tested code word here that totally has nothing to do with them being afraid of Planned Parenthood or money lost from other pro-Abortion donors here.* This answer from Bernie Sanders however, sounds like it’s, well, pretty pro-abortion…

First he went with the “her body, her choice” dodge. Then he pivoted to complaining about Republicans on things that don’t have to do with abortion. Bret Baier didn’t let up though…"

“I guess the genesis of the question is that, you know, there are some Democrats who say after five months, with the exception of the life of the mother or the health of the baby, that perhaps that’s something to look at. You’re saying no?” Baier said.
“I am very strongly pro-choice. That is a decision to be made by the woman, her physician and her family,” Sanders said. “That’s my view.”
Essentially, this even includes partial-birth abortion.

Bernie on Abortion: 'Anytime, Anywhere'

Utah · Apr 9, 2016

I support aborting future socialists.

jennymae · Apr 9, 2016

Oh mighty, the link didn't work, but be that what he said I'm very disappointed in him.

jennymae · Apr 9, 2016

Utah said:

I hope that was a joke, because this statement is clearly pro choice...

Utah · Apr 9, 2016

jennymae said:

Okay, let me adjust my statement:

I support euthanizing socialists who have an insatiable appetite for abortion on demand.

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

Spoonfulofsugar said:

which part of "that is a decision to be made by the woman, her physician and her family"
indicates that this guy has "an insatiable appetite for abortion on demand" or that he wants to have abortions "anytime, anywhere" ?

he just said it shouldn't be a decision the government makes for a person.

i think you guys are extrapolating from that a lot of things that just aren't true.

Utah · Apr 9, 2016

posthuman said:

Someone spoke on your behalf when you were in the womb. You should do the same.

RachelBibleStudent · Apr 9, 2016

Utah said:

there he goes with the murder jokes again...

i await the excuses...

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

Utah said:

should it be the government, or should it be mothers and fathers and doctors?
all Sanders is saying -- all most "pro-choice" people are saying -- is that it's not their decision to make.

in some ways, we all want a "nanny state" and in other ways, we don't. right? you want the government to make some medical decisions - because sometimes, that's what this comes down to - but you don't want them being involved at all in other medical decisions, right?

i would personally never have an abortion. i would never encourage anyone to have an abortion. if you ask me about rape victims or mothers who will probably die if they carry their pregnancy to full term or the unborn who clearly have such defects that they will not be able to survive outside the womb, what am i going to say?? i have no idea. it's a huge conflict that i can't resolve.
that's what "pro-choice" is about -- about not being able to generalize every possibility. it's not about "abortion 24/7" or wanting to murder 7 or 8 month foetuses or having no respect for life at all.
that's actually an offensive, slanderous mischaracterization of an awful lot of people.

i understand that we have very strong feelings about how wrong this is. that does not make people who are unable to come to the conclusion that it should be a crime in every single conceivable situation, murderers with no respect for life. it does not mean that people who hold this view want to have abortion "anytime, anywhere" for whatever reason, or no reason at all.

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

your buddy Trump is also pro-choice. he's got exactly the same view - that in some situations, like rape or incest or when the life of the mother is at stake, this is a medical & personal decision that the government shouldn't be making for people.

so let's see those threads about him wanting abortion "anytime, anywhere" .. and why that makes him evil .. ?
oh, those threads don't exist?? why not?

good grief, the things that worldly politics do to us! the blindness and the disharmony! ugh.
i'd rather go back to the BDF where at least when we argue, it's for God's sake, not some worldly political party's

RachelBibleStudent · Apr 9, 2016

posthuman said:

even moreso than that...trump backpedaled and said we have to leave abortion laws the way they are right now...that includes abortion for reasons other than rape and incest and the health of the mother...

shrimp · Apr 9, 2016

RachelBibleStudent said:

It's true. watch the footage of him talking about abortion and it is quite obvious that he hasn't changed his view since 1999

RachelBibleStudent · Apr 9, 2016

posthuman said:

this is the usual 'pro choice' rhetoric which is specifically tailored to sound as inoffensive as possible to the public...

however this is -not- what 'pro choice' is all about once the rhetoric is translated into action...

'pro choice' activists fought against measures requiring abortion clinics to show a mother a realistic ultrasound of her baby before she makes her decision...so the basic medical ethic of informed consent has been thrown out the window... and many women who have gotten abortions and regretted it can tell you how they were pressured by clinic staff into going through with the abortion...with methods of pressure including lies about the infeasibility of adoption...lies about basic characteristics of the unborn baby...lies about side effects for the mother...even lies about the procedure itself...and 'counseling' that basically amounts to threatening young women with poverty and educational and career failure as well as public shame and humiliation and rejection by family...

so when you see 'pro choice' in action...it becomes very clear that someone -wants- these abortions to take place...

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

RachelBibleStudent said:

the thing is, that if this is the argument that sways a lot of people's outlook on abortion, and that if clinics present incomplete and biased information to young mothers, then this is the information and thought that is behind a great number of people's support of "choice"
so it's still unfair to call them all "willful murderers" and accuse them of wanting 24/7 abortion on-demand for all the most frivolous of reasons. that's a total mischaracterization of a whole lot of people.

do abortion clinics - who make money by aborting babies - lie to people and skew the information they provide, for their own benefit? probably, yes!
is there some kind of cabal that pushes abortion, probably as a form of social and population control? probably, yes!

but that doesn't mean everyone who holds a 'pro choice' view has no respect for life, or is willingly and knowingly part of the illuminati, or even that they would personally have an abortion or even encourage anyone to have one. i don't think it's right for us to jump to those kind of condemning conclusions, is all i'm saying. it's not accurate or right to call Sanders a "baby killer" or to say that about the hundreds of millions of people in the country who have similar opinions.

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

RachelBibleStudent said:

if we can't outlaw this altogether in this country, having no clause in the law that requires substantial justification for an abortion is a serious flaw IMO.

Spoonfulofsugar · Apr 9, 2016

RachelBibleStudent said:

I remember you saying that a trump supporter is not a christian. Pull the plank from your eye before you pull the splinter from his

Demi777 · Apr 9, 2016

Well I believe its better for a woman to get a abortion at a clinic than doing it herself. Theres no way stopping abortion. Just go into the other countries where witchdoctors have to take care of it and woman die in the most crucial circumstances. Should there be stricter laws especially in the US? YES Do I think a abortion is ok? NO unless the womans life depends on it like a sickness or so.

shrimp · Apr 9, 2016

Spoonfulofsugar said:

Are you saying that Rachel makes murder jokes? and then makes excuses for why she makes them?
I have yet to see evidence of that.

posthuman · Apr 9, 2016

shrimp said:

we do on the other hand have a couple of "murder jokes" in this thread, don't we?
and neither of them were made by Rachel.

why do we let ourselves be made into "enemies" by these worldly topics? we're all here together because of Christ, who unites us!
i hope we all keep that in mind. i disagree with a lot of what's said over here in this section of the forum, but i still consider everyone here who confesses that Christ came in the flesh, to be my brother and my sister, and i love you all

please remember that when i make you mad too, okay? that's all i can really ask. i am sure i say things that are uncalled for too.

KimPetras · Apr 9, 2016

shrimp said:

When asked to provide evidence of her accusations, she usually just ignores the conversation. It's quite sad really.

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