Science is Broken

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Huh? Sometimes I feel a great sense of disconnect between people. It's as if we hear different information from different sources or something...it's quite peculiar. The evidence I know of is overwhelming and evolution always turns up right each time for over 150 years. This is not to say that we know everything...not by any means! But evolution is a very strongly grounded fact in biological sciences that makes sense and fits unequivocally. I never said God was not involved. I do know that it didn't happen the way most think it is, that is, a literal interpretation of Genesis. I'd be very shocked to get to Heaven and to find out that it was literal. Everything seems to point to the opposite.
The one glaring thing about evolution for me is that it is based on so many lies.....like giving feathers to dinosaurs and the dude that was busted for drawing the formation of fetuses to look like tad poles or whatever that was. Take the money out of science for the career charlatans and we'd have some honesty......maybe.
 
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Huh? Sometimes I feel a great sense of disconnect between people. It's as if we hear different information from different sources or something...it's quite peculiar. The evidence I know of is overwhelming and evolution always turns up right each time for over 150 years. This is not to say that we know everything...not by any means! But evolution is a very strongly grounded fact in biological sciences that makes sense and fits unequivocally. I never said God was not involved. I do know that it didn't happen the way most think it is, that is, a literal interpretation of Genesis. I'd be very shocked to get to Heaven and to find out that it was literal. Everything seems to point to the opposite.
we must see things different.

Nothing I see leads me to believe man evolved from singed cell organisms which came alive billions of years ago. Or that the earth was not created in six literal days. and there was not a global flood.
 
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The one glaring thing about evolution for me is that it is based on so many lies.....like giving feathers to dinosaurs and the dude that was busted for drawing the formation of fetuses to look like tad poles or whatever that was. Take the money out of science for the career charlatans and we'd have some honesty......maybe.

what saddens me is people want to try to make God fit into science, instead of using God to interpret science. I used to fall into this trap myself (when I first heard the gap theory I was so excited. Finally I can answer so many things) When instead, I should have just taken God literally. Would have saved myself alot of hassle.
 
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What's the "gap theory"? And many dinosaurs did indeed have feathers. As far as the drawings from the late 19th or early 20th century, well, mistakes and straight out lies DO happen. There are liars out there. No one is denying that. The one nice thing about science is there is a built in ethos. You have thousands of other people around the world from all different religions, races, sexes, countries, etc.. working on the same problems that you are working on. It means that sooner or later you are going to get found out. It doesn't pay to report false nonsense. The mistakes and outright lies that have happened have long been corrected. You should check out more up to date embryology and other evidences for evolution. A lot has been learned in the last century.
 
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What's the "gap theory"? And many dinosaurs did indeed have feathers. As far as the drawings from the late 19th or early 20th century, well, mistakes and straight out lies DO happen. There are liars out there. No one is denying that. The one nice thing about science is there is a built in ethos. You have thousands of other people around the world from all different religions, races, sexes, countries, etc.. working on the same problems that you are working on. It means that sooner or later you are going to get found out. It doesn't pay to report false nonsense. The mistakes and outright lies that have happened have long been corrected. You should check out more up to date embryology and other evidences for evolution. A lot has been learned in the last century.
Gap theory,, - There is a gap of a long length of period between gen 1: 1 and gen 1: 3 (gen 1: 2 is the gap)

It states basically that God did not create the world in 6 days, he recreated it.

Last century? in the last 20 years so much evidence has been brought forward which completely refutes evolution. I am surpised it is even considered a theory any longer (the one who wrote the book on it even denied it before he died)
 
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Gap theory,, - There is a gap of a long length of period between gen 1: 1 and gen 1: 3 (gen 1: 2 is the gap)

It states basically that God did not create the world in 6 days, he recreated it.

Last century? in the last 20 years so much evidence has been brought forward which completely refutes evolution. I am surpised it is even considered a theory any longer (the one who wrote the book on it even denied it before he died)
It seems you've been fed some propaganda somewhere... Darwin never denied evolution. He was a really great scientists and he really felt strongly about his hypothesis that eventually graduated to theory. But even if he did does not matter. If it's true and he did deny it, he'd have been wrong. But in his day, they didn't know anything about genetics or most of the other evidences for evolution. They didn't even have very many fossils. Not that we need fossils. We wouldn't need a single fossil and we could still prove evolution true, it's really that firmly established. It's the backbone of all modern biology. So when you say that it's been refuted....that's just dead wrong. I don't know where you're getting your information. I'm in school now studying about it. Again, it's multifarious. Entire books have been written about just a single branch of evidence for evolution, never mind about the entirety of it!
 
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The other thing that gets me about the science cabal is that they blackball people who publish any opposing view to the status quo. I would think honesty would welcome other views. They control the narrative thru gestapo tactics and indicates dishonesty.
 
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The other thing that gets me about the science cabal is that they blackball people who publish any opposing view to the status quo. I would think honesty would welcome other views. They control the narrative thru gestapo tactics and indicates dishonesty.
Again, this type of dishonesty happens, but it gets weeded out pretty quick. The cool thing about scientists is that they are willing to change their mind when overwhelming evidence comes in. Take Einstein for example. Prior to Einstein, everyone thought the universe was eternal. Einstein showed that it had a beginning. It revolutionized the field and now he's one of the most respected scientists ever. Just about every famous scientist I can think of was wrong about some things and right about some things, and whether or not they were respected in their time, they went on to revolutionize and change minds. That is their legacy. And it's what Darwin did as well. Darwin was wrong about a lot of things too, by the way. But he was right about some things too.
 
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Again, this type of dishonesty happens, but it gets weeded out pretty quick. The cool thing about scientists is that they are willing to change their mind when overwhelming evidence comes in. Take Einstein for example. Prior to Einstein, everyone thought the universe was eternal. Einstein showed that it had a beginning. It revolutionized the field and now he's one of the most respected scientists ever. Just about every famous scientist I can think of was wrong about some things and right about some things, and whether or not they were respected in their time, they went on to revolutionize and change minds. That is their legacy. And it's what Darwin did as well. Darwin was wrong about a lot of things too, by the way. But he was right about some things too.
But it doesn't get weeded out quick. The article talks about how misleading and flawed studies are taught as truth for years. The science cabal is just another propaganda arm of the government.
 
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It seems you've been fed some propaganda somewhere... Darwin never denied evolution. He was a really great scientists and he really felt strongly about his hypothesis that eventually graduated to theory. But even if he did does not matter. If it's true and he did deny it, he'd have been wrong. But in his day, they didn't know anything about genetics or most of the other evidences for evolution. They didn't even have very many fossils. Not that we need fossils. We wouldn't need a single fossil and we could still prove evolution true, it's really that firmly established. It's the backbone of all modern biology. So when you say that it's been refuted....that's just dead wrong. I don't know where you're getting your information. I'm in school now studying about it. Again, it's multifarious. Entire books have been written about just a single branch of evidence for evolution, never mind about the entirety of it!
what is amazing

the fossil record destroys evolution. as does the science of DNA.

yet people still want to believe in it.
 
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But it doesn't get weeded out quick. The article talks about how misleading and flawed studies are taught as truth for years. The science cabal is just another propaganda arm of the government.
many truths of science were left out of classrooms, probably because it would cost to much to change the science books.

I still find it amazing you can teach evolution in class. But creation is outlawed.. ydet we want to claim we have an unbiased education system (rolls eyes)
 
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Science perpetuates the notion that mankind is no different from the animal kingdom. That in itself is contrary to the creation story.
 
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what is amazing

the fossil record destroys evolution. as does the science of DNA.

yet people still want to believe in it.

Once again, I'm baffled by the disconnect in the information you and I have. How on earth does the fossil record destroy it? Or DNA? Both seem to prove it to me....
 
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Once again, I'm baffled by the disconnect in the information you and I have. How on earth does the fossil record destroy it? Or DNA? Both seem to prove it to me....
How can the fossil record prove it? Where are the missing links (do you know what happens when somethign is transformed into a new something?) the fossil record shows each creature fully formed according to its own specie. being buried instantly before it was able to decompose, Just like would happen if a global flood were to happen.

as for DNA. Have you ever studied it? It is more complex than the whole windows operating system, yet evolutions claims it wrote itself. which would be impossible.
 
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Satan has to do anything he can to direct people away from God. Satan has poisoned multitudes with his evolution lie, even though evolution is proven false in the Bible. So he does what he does best, question the Word, "hath God said" and make people believe creation was not really what it says in the Bible, that the flood really didn't happen like it says in the Bible, etc.....It's very clear Satan has his fingerprints on the agenda to promote evolution, and on a whole host of other nonsense. Man will either trust the Bible or trust man. It's that simple.

"It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man." Psa 118:8
 
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many truths of science were left out of classrooms, probably because it would cost to much to change the science books.

I still find it amazing you can teach evolution in class. But creation is outlawed.. ydet we want to claim we have an unbiased education system (rolls eyes)
Cost too much to change textbooks? They update them all the time... "Creationism" is only outlawed because it's not scientific. It's not evidence based, it's faith based and there are many creation stories, and do you really want kids hearing every single crazy creation myth there is? The Native American one with The Great Spirit or Egyptian gods like Horus and Osiris? Again, I know you don't think evolution is evidence based because you think that some how the fossil record and DNA disproves it...but any biologist that knows anything would disagree with you. The fossil record is great evidence for evolution. It's not the only evidence... there is also geographic distribution, embryology, vestiges, "bad design", DNA, many speciation events... in fact, most of biology ONLY makes sense in light of evolution. So it's puzzling to me where you're getting your info.
 
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How can the fossil record prove it? Where are the missing links (do you know what happens when somethign is transformed into a new something?) the fossil record shows each creature fully formed according to its own specie. being buried instantly before it was able to decompose, Just like would happen if a global flood were to happen.

as for DNA. Have you ever studied it? It is more complex than the whole windows operating system, yet evolutions claims it wrote itself. which would be impossible.
What missing links? Almost every fossil you see is a missing link. There is an abundance. What about Australopithecus, Homo Erectus, Homo Habilis, archaic Homo Sapiens, and modern day homo sapien? What about the first ape like creatures that become bipedal instead of arboreal? Increase in cranium, origin of tools, etc. etc.. Of course each creature is full formed....would you expect a creature to be half formed? lol that wouldn't be very good for it's survival. I think you're confused. You're not one of the Kirk Cameron followers who want to see a crocoduck are you? It doesn't work that way. There will never be a "crocoduck". Those are two modern species. Species only give birth to the same species....no monkey ever gave birth to a human... no lizard ever gave birth to a duck....
 
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Once again, I'm baffled by the disconnect in the information you and I have. How on earth does the fossil record destroy it? Or DNA? Both seem to prove it to me....
The very nature of how they say evolution works is flawed. When it boils down to it all they have to fall back on is by saying that given enough "time", anything can happen. There was enough "time" for things to evolve. What's interesting about that is the dating methods are proven to be flawed. And when you consider "evidence" has been manipulated to fit the narrative and people have been busted doing it. It's kinda like the same thing that happens on this site. Nuggets of truth get buried in a mountain of high minded "text". By and large, modern science is like playing chess with yourself....you cannot do it honestly....I've tried. The way modern science is practiced, honesty is impossible.
 
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Science isn't broken--people are broken.

"We’ve seen example after example of how the human element of this enterprise harms and damages its progress, through incompetence, fraud, selfishness, prejudice, or the simple combination of an honest oversight or slip with plain bad luck. These failings need not hobble the scientific enterprise broadly conceived, but only if scientists are hyper-aware of and endlessly vigilant about the errors of their colleagues . . . and of themselves."

Source: Scientific Regress by William A. Wilson | Articles | First Things
 
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Science isn't broken--people are broken.

"We’ve seen example after example of how the human element of this enterprise harms and damages its progress, through incompetence, fraud, selfishness, prejudice, or the simple combination of an honest oversight or slip with plain bad luck. These failings need not hobble the scientific enterprise broadly conceived, but only if scientists are hyper-aware of and endlessly vigilant about the errors of their colleagues . . . and of themselves."

Source: Scientific Regress by William A. Wilson | Articles | First Things
Ya man...good point. All it takes is one dishonest person who wields some power to screw the whole thing up. Most people are followers and want to do good by those who have authority over them. Its their only option really....the other option is career ending character assassination.