Trump doubles down on his immigration promises

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p_rehbein

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Funny thing is......according to all the Exit Polls that have been conducted........Immigration/Border is way, way down the list of what folks think is most important.

Economy
Jobs
Terrorism
Health Care

all seem to rank above Immigration in the Polls.............

Now, I also believe Border Security is the most important, but we are in the minority in America it would seem.

What will Trump do? Forget what he says now, that's just Politispeek to get votes......what will he do IF he is actually elected? Not much, unless he can get the votes in Congress to support what he wants to do and the votes to allocate the funds necessary to implement his plan(s).

He can't do very much on his own...........no matter what he says.
 
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Funny thing is......according to all the Exit Polls that have been conducted........Immigration/Border is way, way down the list of what folks think is most important.

Economy
Jobs
Terrorism
Health Care

all seem to rank above Immigration in the Polls.............

Now, I also believe Border Security is the most important, but we are in the minority in America it would seem.

What will Trump do? Forget what he says now, that's just Politispeek to get votes......what will he do IF he is actually elected? Not much, unless he can get the votes in Congress to support what he wants to do and the votes to allocate the funds necessary to implement his plan(s).

He can't do very much on his own...........no matter what he says.
Economy, jobs, and terrorism are all concerns that our immigration problem has exacerbated.

If Obama can do whatever he pleases w/o congress then why cant someone else? huh?
 

p_rehbein

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Economy, jobs, and terrorism are all concerns that our immigration problem has exacerbated.

If Obama can do whatever he pleases w/o congress then why cant someone else? huh?
Kinda wrong there........Obama DOESN'T DO whatever he pleases. Meaning.......he doesn't enforce the Laws of the Land,

Even then, the only way he gets some things done is because the cowards in Congress allow him to.

The problem isn't that Obama has done too much..........it's that he hasn't done ENOUGH.

The economy, jobs, terrorism, ISIS, border security, energy, all of these and more.......he simply doesn't do ENOUGH to address these. But, then, he doesn't want to either.

Trump MAY WELL want to do a lot...........but, on his own, he can't. That's how our Government works. Checks and balances..........IF Congress agrees to work with him, then MAYBE things will get done.......but that's a BIG IF, given the very real possibility that the Repubs could lose control of the Senate, and possibly the House.
 
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Economy, jobs, and terrorism are all concerns that our immigration problem has exacerbated.

If Obama can do whatever he pleases w/o congress then why cant someone else? huh?
Surely you are not saying we should turn over the affairs of our nation to the president alone without consent of the congress.
Don't you realize where that leads.
We have had to much of that in the last 8 years.
 
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Kinda wrong there........Obama DOESN'T DO whatever he pleases. Meaning.......he doesn't enforce the Laws of the Land,

Even then, the only way he gets some things done is because the cowards in Congress allow him to.

The problem isn't that Obama has done too much..........it's that he hasn't done ENOUGH.

The economy, jobs, terrorism, ISIS, border security, energy, all of these and more.......he simply doesn't do ENOUGH to address these. But, then, he doesn't want to either.

Trump MAY WELL want to do a lot...........but, on his own, he can't. That's how our Government works. Checks and balances..........IF Congress agrees to work with him, then MAYBE things will get done.......but that's a BIG IF, given the very real possibility that the Repubs could lose control of the Senate, and possibly the House.

"I have a pen and Ill use it". Hmm, wonder where that came from? LOL
Obama has many times done things on his own.

Our government has not been checks and balances for a very long time. Congress and the house are all bought and scared to death!
 
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Surely you are not saying we should turn over the affairs of our nation to the president alone without consent of the congress.
Don't you realize where that leads.
We have had to much of that in the last 8 years.
Im saying if that is what it takes to demolish obamacare,so be it. If that is what it takes to build the wall,so be it. Im saying if that is what it takes to get rid of common core so be it. Trump is going to have to be tough as nails to fight the establishment
If obama can do it to darn near destroy our country so can Trump to bring back some sense of security
 
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Im saying if that is what it takes to demolish obamacare,so be it. If that is what it takes to build the wall,so be it. Im saying if that is what it takes to get rid of common core so be it. Trump is going to have to be tough as nails to fight the establishment
If obama can do it to darn near destroy our country so can Trump to bring back some sense of security
But where does it stop?
I thought we wanted to stop this and get back to the constitution.
I am not willing to allow one man to rule. That is not the American way.
 
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But where does it stop?
I thought we wanted to stop this and get back to the constitution.
I am not willing to allow one man to rule. That is not the American way.
Trump is a nationalist and not a globalist. I suppose he will do what it takes to get us back to a republic. Thats what I am hoping for. It is not going to be an easy task. He will have to play some hard ball for a season I am thinking. He doesnt desire to be a tyrant but the one who changed the tides.
 

p_rehbein

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My goodness............sigh.......

Trump is FOR Big Government, and has said so.

Trump is FOR same sex marriage, and has said so.

Trump claimed early on to be against abortion, then gave a speech IN FAVOR of abortion.

Trump STATED we could not JUST demolish Obamacare.

Trump is FOR Government spending.

Trump STATED he would be happy to pay more taxes......when asked about tax increases.

Trump has SPENT HIS LIFE as a Globalist while building his empire.

Trump was FOR illegals and their being here BEFORE he announced his Candidacy.

Trump is FOR Big Money in Politics.........and has BEEN one of the BIGGEST money folks in Politics for many, many years.

As for that changing the tides comment..........hmm.............seems to me that is God's area, not Trumps.

We are NOW a Democratic Republic, and ALL that is taking place Socially and Politically attest to our being a Democratic Republic.........that's how a Democratic Republic works.
 

tanakh

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Politicians will say anything to get elected. Its the one thing they all have in common whatever Country you live in or Party you support. Its in their nature. As Judge Judy is fond of saying regarding Teenagers. Hoe do you know they are lying ? Their lips move
 
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Funny thing is......according to all the Exit Polls that have been conducted........Immigration/Border is way, way down the list of what folks think is most important.

Economy
Jobs
Terrorism
Health Care

all seem to rank above Immigration in the Polls.............

Now, I also believe Border Security is the most important, but we are in the minority in America it would seem.

What will Trump do? Forget what he says now, that's just Politispeek to get votes......what will he do IF he is actually elected? Not much, unless he can get the votes in Congress to support what he wants to do and the votes to allocate the funds necessary to implement his plan(s).

He can't do very much on his own...........no matter what he says.
Thats what I thought.There Is a congress and a senate.
 
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Politicians will say anything to get elected. Its the one thing they all have in common whatever Country you live in or Party you support. Its in their nature. As Judge Judy is fond of saying regarding Teenagers. Hoe do you know they are lying ? Their lips move
Some are saying that Trump Is a pathological liar.
 
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My goodness............sigh.......

Trump is FOR Big Government, and has said so.

Trump is FOR same sex marriage, and has said so.

Trump claimed early on to be against abortion, then gave a speech IN FAVOR of abortion.

Trump STATED we could not JUST demolish Obamacare.

Trump is FOR Government spending.



Trump STATED he would be happy to pay more taxes......when asked about tax increases.

Trump has SPENT HIS LIFE as a Globalist while building his empire.

Trump was FOR illegals and their being here BEFORE he announced his Candidacy.

Trump is FOR Big Money in Politics.........and has BEEN one of the BIGGEST money folks in Politics for many, many years.

As for that changing the tides comment..........hmm.............seems to me that is God's area, not Trumps.

We are NOW a Democratic Republic, and ALL that is taking place Socially and Politically attest to our being a Democratic Republic.........that's how a Democratic Republic works.
SIGH. I didnt say I agree with all his policies.I have never said that in fact. If voting for Trump keeps killary out of the white house then thats what I am shooting for. We are not yet a democratic republic. That is YOUR opinion. Trump winning the presidency would stop that 100% democrat takeover
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Economy, jobs, and terrorism are all concerns that our immigration problem has exacerbated.

If Obama can do whatever he pleases w/o congress then why cant someone else? huh?
because it is unconstitutional?

before the trumpist takeover republicans used to be for the constitution...

to undermine the constitution in any way is to undermine america...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Surely you are not saying we should turn over the affairs of our nation to the president alone without consent of the congress.
Don't you realize where that leads.
We have had to much of that in the last 8 years.
you are getting at the truth here...republicans don't want to restore america to its principles...they just want a republican obama...
 
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because it is unconstitutional?

before the trumpist takeover republicans used to be for the constitution...

to undermine the constitution in any way is to undermine america...

Its going to take what it takes. I dont expect you to understand this basic principle.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Its going to take what it takes. I dont expect you to understand this basic principle.
you don't save a country by shattering its very core...