United Methodist Church and Gay Pastors

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AboundingGrace

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Actually posted a Scripture on the BDF this AM that reveals why they are unable to understand God and His workings.....

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Ecclesiastes 3:11 - He hath made every [thing] beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
Just inserting a comment.. I'd always considered that the author of Ecclesiastes was ranting on the futilities of all things.. and therefore not to be entirely inspired text, but it's certainly in line with the "not able to understand God and His workings".
 

p_rehbein

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Just inserting a comment.. I'd always considered that the author of Ecclesiastes was ranting on the futilities of all things.. and therefore not to be entirely inspired text, but it's certainly in line with the "not able to understand God and His workings".
Yes, he was...........vanity, all is vanity........or emptiness......or such.......worthless waste of time.......but even in these teachings are nuggets of Truth about God and His wisdom.

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AboundingGrace

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Yes, he was...........vanity, all is vanity........or emptiness......or such.......worthless waste of time.......but even in these teachings are nuggets of Truth about God and His wisdom.

:)
Yes, a person has to discern the wheat(God's daily bread) from the tares(the devil's chaff) :D

Not to say anything against the Ecclesiastic author.. everyone has their less than godly moments. He was not however, loath to write them down for all to read. Interesting that he did not apologize for any of his frustrations.
 

p_rehbein

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Yes, a person has to discern the wheat(God's daily bread) from the tares(the devil's chaff) :D

Not to say anything against the Ecclesiastic author.. everyone has their less than godly moments. He was not however, loath to write them down for all to read. Interesting that he did not apologize for any of his frustrations.
From the First Testament.......it and Job are my favorite.......much to be learned from both that directly applies to our lives/the life of the Church today...........in my opinion.
 

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My first church was methodist. Ironically enough, it has been falling apart over the past few years.
Apparently, there was a method to their madness. It was methodical destruction.
 

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Just inserting a comment.. I'd always considered that the author of Ecclesiastes was ranting on the futilities of all things.. and therefore not to be entirely inspired text, but it's certainly in line with the "not able to understand God and His workings".
Yes, a person has to discern the wheat(God's daily bread) from the tares(the devil's chaff) :D

Not to say anything against the Ecclesiastic author.. everyone has their less than godly moments. He was not however, loath to write them down for all to read. Interesting that he did not apologize for any of his frustrations.
If we were to follow this line of reasoning, what's to stop us from deciding that everything we don't like in the Bible is not entirely inspired text? Once we start picking and choosing, we've pretty much started down a path of re-creating God in our own image.

And for the record, when I was burned out and crushed under the weight of high expectations and it seemed like church always wanted more service and to take more from me. Ecclesiastes was the best and most inspired book in the Bible to me, it reminded me that my sphere and responsibility was just to fear God and obey his commands and that I could ease up on all my striving because there just wasn't a whole lot I could control.