Is There a War on Women?

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54,000,000+ abortions since Roe vs Wade...many were women.
 

peacenik

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54,000,000+ abortions since Roe vs Wade...many were women.



Roe was decided by a Republican majority


Casey which affirmed it was also decided by a Republican majority




therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions
 

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A great many right wingers believe Islam is the most sexist and anti-female religion in the world. This despite the fact that the vast majority of converts into that religion are women with 70% conversion in Europe and in the USA. Mostly by WHITE women.


By contrast, Hinduism which is thought by many to be open minded, is the most anti-female by far:



https://www.google.com/search?q=fem...9j69i57j0l4.4069j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8




And yet, sad to say, the hate for Muslims persists.
 
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Roe was decided by a Republican majority....

therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions
"Roe was decided by a Republican majority"

Roe v Wade

The libamorals who decided genocide is fine...

William Douglas - Democrat
William Brennan Jr - Democrat
Thurgood Marshall - Democrat
Lewis Powell, Jr - Democrat
Potter Stewart - Republican
Harry Blackburn - Republican
Warren Burger - Republican


The dissenters...

Byron White - Democrat
William Rehnquist - Republican


"therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions"

Therefore, unless it can be demonstrated that the above is a myth,

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A great many right wingers believe Islam is the most sexist and anti-female religion in the world. This despite the fact that the vast majority of converts into that religion are women with 70% conversion in Europe and in the USA. Mostly by WHITE women.

By contrast, Hinduism which is thought by many to be open minded, is the most anti-female by far:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fem...9j69i57j0l4.4069j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And yet, sad to say, the hate for Muslims persists.
A great many right wingers believe Islam is the most sexist and anti-female religion in the world. Radical Islam, which shouldn't be confused with Islam.
 

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Roe was decided by a Republican majority


Casey which affirmed it was also decided by a Republican majority




therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions
Who cares about the labels? 54,000,000 innocent lives lost and many women. Or I suppose you are all for abortion?
 
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peacenik

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"Roe was decided by a Republican majority"

Roe v Wade

The libamorals who decided genocide is fine...

William Douglas - Democrat
William Brennan Jr - Democrat
Thurgood Marshall - Democrat
Lewis Powell, Jr - Democrat
Potter Stewart - Republican
Harry Blackburn - Republican
Warren Burger - Republican


The dissenters...

Byron White - Democrat
William Rehnquist - Republican


"therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions"

Therefore, unless it can be demonstrated that the above is a myth,

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Lewis Powell was a Republican appointed by Nixon.
 
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Lewis Powell was a Republican appointed by Nixon.
"Powell was first approached about the Supreme Court in 1969, when the Nixon administration was looking for a southern justice to replace Abe Fortas, who had resigned under a cloud. Though Powell was a lifelong Democrat, Nixon knew he was nonetheless a strong believe in law enforcement and saw in Powell a chance to reverse an era of rulings favoring criminal defendants."

link:
Washingtonpost.com: Powell Dies at 90
 

peacenik

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Johnson rejected him because he thought Marshall and Fortas were better Dems than he was.

As your extract shows Powell was a DINO from Alabama who voted along Republican lines. Thanks for confirming that he was appointed by Republican Nixon.
 

peacenik

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From wiki:



''The case was a seminal one in the history of abortion decisions in the United States. It was the first case that provided an opportunity to overturn Roe since the two liberal Justices, William Brennan and Thurgood Marshall, were replaced with the Bush-appointed Justices David Souter and Clarence Thomas. Both were viewed as ostensible conservatives compared with their predecessors. This left the Court with eight Republican-appointed justices—six of whom had been appointed by Presidents Reagan or Bush, both of whom were well known for their opposition to Roe. Finally, the only remaining Democratic appointee—Justice Byron White—had been one of the two dissenters from the original Roe decision.''




This is the Casey decision which affirmed Roe v Wade. Notice that it had EIGHT Republicans in the court.
 

p_rehbein

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Who cares about the labels? 54,000,000 innocent lives lost and many women. Or I suppose you are all for abortion?
Nearer 70 Million now............just saying...........
 
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Nearer 70 Million now............just saying...........
That makes me sick in my stomach. It's the sort of thing you lay awake at nights, wondering "why, God?"
 
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From wiki:

''The case was a seminal one in the history of abortion decisions in the United States. It was the first case that provided an opportunity to overturn Roe since the two liberal Justices, William Brennan and Thurgood Marshall, were replaced with the Bush-appointed Justices David Souter and Clarence Thomas. Both were viewed as ostensible conservatives compared with their predecessors. This left the Court with eight Republican-appointed justices—six of whom had been appointed by Presidents Reagan or Bush, both of whom were well known for their opposition to Roe. Finally, the only remaining Democratic appointee—Justice Byron White—had been one of the two dissenters from the original Roe decision.''

This is the Casey decision which affirmed Roe v Wade. Notice that it had EIGHT Republicans in the court.
Notice your original post.

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Roe was decided by a Republican majority

Casey which affirmed it was also decided by a Republican majority

therefore, contrary to the beliefs and myths of the right wing, it is the right that caused all those abortions

You blame it all on the right wing. That's bull.

Roe was decided with Democrats controlling the SCOTUS.

Casey was decided with Republicans controlling the SCOTUS.

Bottom line...there are lib-amorals in both parties.
 

peacenik

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Notice your original post.




You blame it all on the right wing. That's bull.

Roe was decided with Democrats controlling the SCOTUS.

Casey was decided with Republicans controlling the SCOTUS.

Bottom line...there are lib-amorals in both parties.


Not so. I was correct - it was a Republican majority in both instances.

Oh by the way, Scalia said that our Founding Fathers did not give anyone the right to have abortions. He was incorrect as abortions were legal under the Anglo Saxon common law. See Blackstone's Commentaries and the subject of "quickening". As a pro lifer it pains me that such a standard was the precedent set by those days but it was. The common law remained a part of the US Constitution. See the Seventh Amendment​.
 
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Not so. I was correct - it was a Republican majority in both instances.

Oh by the way, Scalia said that our Founding Fathers did not give anyone the right to have abortions. He was incorrect as abortions were legal under the Anglo Saxon common law. See Blackstone's Commentaries and the subject of "quickening". As a pro lifer it pains me that such a standard was the precedent set by those days but it was. The common law remained a part of the US Constitution. See the Seventh Amendment​.
Majority decision had 7 judges giving women the "right" to butcher their offspring.

4 Democrats and 3 Republicans.

4 Democrats > 3 Republicans.

Come on, think now.
 

peacenik

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Majority decision had 7 judges giving women the "right" to butcher their offspring. 4 Democrats and 3 Republicans. 4 Democrats > 3 Republicans. Come on, think now.
Well, it's obvious you are just looking for an argument, not a discussion. I will permit history to speak for itself.
 
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Well, it's obvious you are just looking for an argument, not a discussion. I will permit history to speak for itself.
Yes I am...and 3 is obviously greater than 4.

I do prefer to get back to the topic...which I happened to start.
 
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In the non-Western world, I would say - yes. There's a war on women. In the Western world though, I look around and I see more of a war on men. Society (as a whole) views us as rapists or paedophiles, beaters of women and children or sees us as completely unnecessary/useless.
 

p_rehbein

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In the non-Western world, I would say - yes. There's a war on women. In the Western world though, I look around and I see more of a war on men. Society (as a whole) views us as rapists or paedophiles, beaters of women and children or sees us as completely unnecessary/useless.
True, however, the problem is SOME men ARE those things. As with all such generalizations, there can be found a kernel of truth.