Michelle & Melania: Side-by-Side Speeches: You decide...

[Voldemort]

[video=youtube;w7N0m8yg07o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7N0m8yg07o[/video]

I'd like to ask that anyone who voices their opinion or votes in the poll to please watch the video first.

There is, without a doubt, going to be overlap in inspirational speeches. We can find overlap with some of the words of Gandhi, a non-Christian, with the words in our the Holy Bible. People quote Martin Luther King Jr, Abraham Lincoln, and other significant figures in history because the message they said simply couldn't be said any better. However, we can't fail to give recognition to the person we quote from or we run the risk of being called out for this. Joe Biden might know a thing or two about this.

However, watching the side-by-side video of the speeches, I find Melania's speech uncomfortably "similar" to Michelle's speech. I watched her speak live yesterday, and it wasn't until earlier today that I saw reports accusing Melania plagiarizing Michelle's speech.

Was Melania's speech coincidentally identical, almost verbatim, in certain areas? Is any criticism of how strikingly similar her speech is to Michelle's speech legitimate or are the phrases so far off from being even remotely similar/plagiarized?

 

[WarriorForChrist]

I could care less. She didn't do it on purpose.

 

[Sirk]

Nobody made a big deal about it when Obama on multiple occasions lifted someone else's words. Why the double standard? Besides, does Mrs. Obama have a patent on hard work, respect and words such as that?

 

[Voldemort]

Nobody made a big deal about it when Obama on multiple occasions lifted someone else's words. Why the double standard? Besides, does Mrs. Obama have a patent on hard work, respect and words such as that?

To be fair, I remember criticism of Joe Biden, and if true, rightfully so. If Trump is elected president and gets Americans killed like Hillary did, I won't give Trump a pass "because Hillary did it too." However, we aren't talking about anyone else other than Michelle and Melania's speeches. What anyone else did, what other people made a big deal about, etc... is irrelevant of the discussion aimed for in this thread.

I'm curious if it's just me that thinks the speeches are strikingly similar or if there are other people, here, who think the same.

 

[Voldemort]

I could care less. She didn't do it on purpose.

Is the bold a submission that you do find it strikingly similar but that "she didn't do it on purpose"?

 

[Sirk]

There is about 50 seconds that use the same theme and words. Big deal. It's a pointless distraction from the issues at hand.

 

[Stephen63]

An identical sentence isn't plagiarism..... An identical paragraph definitely is. All they showed was single sentences.

 

[FlSnookman7]

Sad we live in a nation where so few are raised with good morals and a strong work ethic that if 2 people claim to be over 8 years apart it makes headlines.

 

[Voldemort]

There is about 50 seconds that use the same theme and words. Big deal. It's a pointless distraction from the issues at hand.

The same theme is no big deal, but essentially quoting someone is an entirely different thing. Once again, the discussion of the thread isn't to gauge how big of a deal this is in relation to genocide going on in the world, ISIS attacking the world, etc... This is just a simple discussion on if the speeches are "similar" or if they are far apart from being the same.

 

[Willie-T]

I have a dream that my children will grow up in a world that doesn't look for things like this.

 

[Voldemort]

Sad we live in a nation where so few are raised with good morals and a strong work ethic that if 2 people claim to be over 8 years apart it makes headlines.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr

"Last night I had a dream that my children lived in a nation where they were judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin." - Voldemort

I wholeheartedly agree Martin Luther King's speech, and want his dream to be the vision of every living person on earth. Nevertheless, if I state the quote above and pawn it as my own, the message is cheapened. Almost every knows it's a knock off version of what King said. The fact he and I want/wanted the same thing doesn't mean that my quote is original/not similar to his.

 

[Willie-T]

You guys know what is going to happen, don't you? One of the geeks out there who likes to search out things like this will find that Michelle used the very same words someone else spoke some other place, at some other time.

What was expressed by both women is something each of us has heard our own parents drill into our heads as we grew up. These are universal sentiments, and there are only so many ways they can be expressed.

 

[Voldemort]

You guys know what is going to happen, don't you? One of the geeks out there who likes to search out things like this will find that Michelle used the very same words someone else spoke some other place, at some other time.

What was expressed by both women is something each of us has heard our own parents drill into our heads as we grew up. These are universal sentiments, and there are only so many ways they can be expressed.

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Is the bold a submission that you do find it strikingly similar but that "she didn't do it on purpose"?

Like I said, I could care less.

 

[FlSnookman7]

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

It is far easier to see the unfettered envy of the sad who will grasp at anything to attack her. I understand, she is a very successful super model, by all accounts a great wife and mother and she is about to be the 1st lady so there is a lot to be jealous of, I just don't think it is either edifying or honest to be that way. Pitiful sure, but I guess that is where many are these days in this mislead nation where cop shootings are the norm and no one knows which bathroom to use.

 

[49]

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

Not really. It might make Michelle feel better about who she is.

 

[Sirk]

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

I tend to believe someone who loves America vs someone who has stated that they don't.

 

[Willie-T]

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

"Yes", I can. I do see both of them feeding us the usual "Mom, America, and Apple Pie" soap that we all eat up so eagerly. Trump may not be a professional politician, but he knows what sells.

 

[Voldemort]

I give FOX News credit. I'm watching Bill O'Reilly and he was calling a spade a spade with Melania Trump's speech (or should I say Michelle Obama's speech?).

I agree with O'Reilly that this shouldn't be all on Melania. Whoever wrote the speech should be held accountable.

Ironically, Trump is known for speaking his mind. There were reports that Melania supposedly wrote the speech, but now there are reports she "helped write it".

 

[hornetguy]

You might be absolutely correct about someone digging up speeches to see if Michelle's speech was similar to anyone else's.

Nevertheless, can you see the irony of Trump's wife giving a speech that is quite similar to Obama's wife?

No. I cannot see any "irony" in it at all.

I also don't see any issue with it, if she used some of the same phrases. Is this a paper being submitted for a Nobel prize? Is this speech some kind of priceless literature?

News flash...... It's a POLITICAL SPEECH. Who gives a rat's behind about using the same phrases?

Or, I should ask, who, in their right mind gives a rat's behind about it?

Good grief, the depths that people sink to.....

Do you really think she wrote it? I imagine a speechwriter did it, then passed it along. How is Melania Trump supposed to know that it contained phrases that Michelle Obama uttered 8 years ago?

Even if she knowingly used those phrases "lifted" from Obamaette's speech... isn't imitation supposed to be the sincerest form of flattery?

Cry me a freakin river....