Trump v Clinton who will win and why they will win

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Oct 16, 2015
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I chose not to watch the convention this week. To me, the election is a forgone conclusion. Hillary will win. I can't see how she can lose. Today, Hillary is in Florida trying to rally Latino voters. Pay attention to the following information that I just got done viewing on Fox News, Special Report;

There are 1.8 million Latinos registered to vote in Florida. That is 15% of the states registered voters.

There are 1 million Puerto Ricans living in Florida. That number has doubled since 2000.

In Miami-Dade County 2006-2016, the number of Democrats increased 62% among Hispanics registered to vote, while the number of Republican voters increased 0%.

This trend is similar in many other states that Trump would have to win in order to defeat Clinton. Currently, Trump has the support of between 5% and 15% of Hispanic voters. The more Hispanic voters are registered, the more votes Hillary gets. The upcoming election could very well be a landslide. To make matters worse, the trend is likely to continue, which will lead to Democrats winning control of Congress and nominating liberal supreme court justices. Looking back ten or twenty years from now, you will be saying these were the best of times in comparison to how it will be in the coming years. It will turn out that supporting Trump and especially supporting a wall between the U.S. and Mexico and enforcing immigration laws, will have been the undoing of the Republican party. Now excuse me while I go and cry.
 
Mar 2, 2016
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Yup...and Britain wasn't supposed to leave the EU. Things are just getting started and Trump will melt her face off.
 
Feb 7, 2015
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I chose not to watch the convention this week. To me, the election is a forgone conclusion. Hillary will win. I can't see how she can lose. Today, Hillary is in Florida trying to rally Latino voters. Pay attention to the following information that I just got done viewing on Fox News, Special Report;

There are 1.8 million Latinos registered to vote in Florida. That is 15% of the states registered voters.

There are 1 million Puerto Ricans living in Florida. That number has doubled since 2000.

In Miami-Dade County 2006-2016, the number of Democrats increased 62% among Hispanics registered to vote, while the number of Republican voters increased 0%.

This trend is similar in many other states that Trump would have to win in order to defeat Clinton. Currently, Trump has the support of between 5% and 15% of Hispanic voters. The more Hispanic voters are registered, the more votes Hillary gets. The upcoming election could very well be a landslide. To make matters worse, the trend is likely to continue, which will lead to Democrats winning control of Congress and nominating liberal supreme court justices. Looking back ten or twenty years from now, you will be saying these were the best of times in comparison to how it will be in the coming years. It will turn out that supporting Trump and especially supporting a wall between the U.S. and Mexico and enforcing immigration laws, will have been the undoing of the Republican party. Now excuse me while I go and cry.
I am in total agreement with you.
 

Desdichado

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Yup...and Britain wasn't supposed to leave the EU. Things are just getting started and Trump will melt her face off.
Good point. 2016 is a year of rather anomalous political terrain. If domestic and global order continues to unravel, the more "abnormal" political trends will appear.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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clinton will most likely win because trump chose to win the republican nomination by deliberately being offensive towards every demographic but one...and trump cannot just create millions of new crazy white people out of thin air...

clinton will most likely win because trump spends more vitriol on fellow republicans than he does on clinton...

clinton will most likely win because the $2 billion in free publicity trump got from a compliant media is not going to continue no matter how much the republicans wish it would...the opposition research floodgates are about to open...

clinton will most likely win because she can and will successfully make the ultimate argument that trump is unstable and that he is the one who cannot be trusted with nuclear access...a valid concern that will outweigh any of her own vast personal and policy shortcomings...


in short...hillary clinton will most likely win because of donald trump and the 13 million who voted for him...

i intend to say 'i told you so' in the harshest terms when hillary clinton takes office and begins to do everything we feared she would do...
 
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clinton will most likely win because trump chose to win the republican nomination by deliberately being offensive towards every demographic but one...and trump cannot just create millions of new crazy white people out of thin air...

clinton will most likely win because trump spends more vitriol on fellow republicans than he does on clinton...

clinton will most likely win because the $2 billion in free publicity trump got from a compliant media is not going to continue no matter how much the republicans wish it would...the opposition research floodgates are about to open...

clinton will most likely win because she can and will successfully make the ultimate argument that trump is unstable and that he is the one who cannot be trusted with nuclear access...a valid concern that will outweigh any of her own vast personal and policy shortcomings...


in short...hillary clinton will most likely win because of donald trump and the 13 million who voted for him...

i intend to say 'i told you so' in the harshest terms when hillary clinton takes office and begins to do everything we feared she would do...
And you would have the right to say it IF you cast your vote for Trump.
 
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So basically, you're saying that hispanics don't care that hillary lied under oath about her classified emails and lied to the country about the reason for the benghazi attack, not to mention her incompetence/lack of decision-making which costs 4 american lives..

Anyway... I wonder just how many of those hispanics are actually here legally and registered to vote..
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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And you would have the right to say it IF you cast your vote for Trump.
i think i will have even more right to say it after i -don't- vote for trump...as a living breathing example of why nominating trump was a mistake...
 

Desdichado

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So basically, you're saying that hispanics don't care that hillary lied under oath about her classified emails and lied to the country about the reason for the benghazi attack, not to mention her incompetence/lack of decision-making which costs 4 american lives..

Anyway... I wonder just how many of those hispanics are actually here legally and registered to vote..
Hispanics are not a supremely reliable or decisive voting demographic.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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So basically, you're saying that hispanics don't care that hillary lied under oath about her classified emails and lied to the country about the reason for the benghazi attack, not to mention her incompetence/lack of decision-making which costs 4 american lives..

Anyway... I wonder just how many of those hispanics are actually here legally and registered to vote..
people will tend to vote for the criminal they think supports them over the person they think is bigoted against them every time...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Hispanics are not a supremely reliable or decisive voting demographic.
neither were black people considered a decisive voting bloc at one time...but look at obama winning two elections...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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It is a bit like having cake and eating it.
more like baking cake and eating it...
or would that be having cake and serving it...

i never did think that saying made particularly good sense...
 
Mar 2, 2016
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Good point. 2016 is a year of rather anomalous political terrain. If domestic and global order continues to unravel, the more "abnormal" political trends will appear.

I hope so...I am so sick of "normal".
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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after where eight years of -crazy- have gotten us...

...bring on the 'normal'!
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Just normal political facts. But like I said. 2016. I could be wayyyyy off.
a normal political fact is that for better or worse...identity politics works at winning elections...

and it just so happens that the republican nominee by his own doing is uniquely positioned to be obliterated by identity politics...
 

Desdichado

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a normal political fact is that for better or worse...identity politics works at winning elections...

and it just so happens that the republican nominee by his own doing is uniquely positioned to be obliterated by identity politics...
I hate to sound like a lawyer, but if one were to ask me if identity politics works, my answer would be "depends."
 
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i think i will have even more right to say it after i -don't- vote for trump...as a living breathing example of why nominating trump was a mistake...
There are only two choices. Either you vote for Trump, or you don't. To not vote, or to waste your vote, is to vote for Clinton... because you know that without our votes, Clinton wins for certain.

So, If you don't vote for Trump, you actually vote for Clinton.