Sensible Vehicle Control Legislation

[TheAristocat]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

 

[Depleted]

No. Really! Not time to do that and never will be.

There was a time when the speed limit was 4 mph. People were still being killed constantly.

And 1 gallon? Where do you live that makes that sound good? I lived in the country before. I couldn't get home from the gas station with just 25 miles of gas. I live in the city now, and would still have to get gas every time I wnet out. your ideas couldn't be more impractical.

 

[p_rehbein]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

Maybe in some remote corner of the world where there is an over populated city or such, some of these would seem logical..........but as a whole, they are pretty nonsensical.

Much like firearms, cars/motor vehicles don't kill people, people kill people. In America, a person is suppose to have a State Issued Drivers License to operate a motor vehicle legally, but an FBI background check requirement would be like killing a gnat with a Stinger Missile. And why do you have such disdain for pick up trucks? They are utility vehicles which many, many people depend on to assist them in their lively hood. Plummer's, Carpenter's, Electricians, Farmers, and many, many more.

 

[KimPetras]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

I think the Bastille Day killer had a gun too... didn't he?

I say no to your proposal! Cars don't kill people, people kill people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Lets just arm every day citizens with AK47's, grenades, neutron bombs, atomic bombs, and hydrogen bombs.

Atomic bombs didn't kill innocent people in Japan, the pilot flying the plane that dropped the bombs kill them.

Hydrogen bombs don't blow things up, whoever detonates the bomb does.

Extended clips for fully automatic weapons don't kill people, people kill people.

Fully automatic glocks don't kill people, people kill people.

It's time we start giving people hydrogen bombs/AK47 extended clip, fully automatic assault rifles and glocks, etc... instead of birth certificates when they are born!

 

[Billyd]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

You are far too easy on your restrictions.

1. Ban fuel tanks all together. The may catch on fire altogether.
2. Require that one tire be 1/2 the size the other three. Probably better to make then octagonal instead of round.
3. Set speed limit to as fast as you can go with one foot on the ground.
4. Require auto-stop when approaching any crowd. (gathering of three or more people)
5. Require FBI background checks on all drivers and passengers. Require a three day waiting period before each trip.
6. Ban all vehicles with a gross vehicle weight of over 500 lbs.

Also add a ban on all assault vehicles. Those with automatic transmissions.

I'm for making the world a much safer place to live in.

 

[Billyd]

I think the Bastille Day killer had a gun too... didn't he?

I say no to your proposal! Cars don't kill people, people kill people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Lets just arm every day citizens with AK47's, grenades, neutron bombs, atomic bombs, and hydrogen bombs.

Atomic bombs didn't kill innocent people in Japan, the pilot flying the plane that dropped the bombs kill them.

Hydrogen bombs don't blow things up, whoever detonates the bomb does.

Extended clips for fully automatic weapons don't kill people, people kill people.

Fully automatic glocks don't kill people, people kill people.

It's time we start giving people hydrogen bombs/AK47 extended clip, fully automatic assault rifles and glocks, etc... instead of birth certificates when they are born!

I'm all for it. Let's have sensible people reform.

 

[tourist]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

Maybe a car like this.
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[TheAristocat]

Maybe in some remote corner of the world where there is an over populated city or such, some of these would seem logical..........but as a whole, they are pretty nonsensical.

Much like firearms, cars/motor vehicles don't kill people, people kill people. In America, a person is suppose to have a State Issued Drivers License to operate a motor vehicle legally, but an FBI background check requirement would be like killing a gnat with a Stinger Missile. And why do you have such disdain for pick up trucks? They are utility vehicles which many, many people depend on to assist them in their lively hood. Plummer's, Carpenter's, Electricians, Farmers, and many, many more.

Let's look at the facts. Nobody needs a pickup truck to transport them from one place to another when they can use a less dangerous vehicle such as a motorcycle. Pickup trucks with their four wheel drive are gratuitous to that purpose and only make our streets a more dangerous place. It's far too much power to put in the hands of ordinary citizens like me, who could be absolute psychopaths. Obviously we can't trust the common man anymore. Let's stick him in a cage that is slightly less cage-like than prison. Think of the children (who we must also stick in cages later on).

You conservative vehicle nuts are going to be the ruin of us all.

 

[TheAristocat]

I think the Bastille Day killer had a gun too... didn't he?

I say no to your proposal! Cars don't kill people, people kill people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Lets just arm every day citizens with AK47's, grenades, neutron bombs, atomic bombs, and hydrogen bombs.

Atomic bombs didn't kill innocent people in Japan, the pilot flying the plane that dropped the bombs kill them.

Hydrogen bombs don't blow things up, whoever detonates the bomb does.

Extended clips for fully automatic weapons don't kill people, people kill people.

Fully automatic glocks don't kill people, people kill people.

It's time we start giving people hydrogen bombs/AK47 extended clip, fully automatic assault rifles and glocks, etc... instead of birth certificates when they are born!

Wow. You should be the voice of our new movement. AK47 just sounds evil, especially after you lumped it in with hydrogen bombs and grenades. I would add to that the Ford Taurus.

Our first goal should be to ban dangerous truck look-alikes like Chevy. They may not be true trucks, but they could certainly cause confusion and scare nursing mothers.

 

[p_rehbein]

Let's look at the facts. Nobody needs a pickup truck to transport them from one place to another when they can use a less dangerous vehicle such as a motorcycle. Pickup trucks with their four wheel drive are gratuitous to that purpose and only make our streets a more dangerous place. It's far too much power to put in the hands of ordinary citizens like me, who could be absolute psychopaths. Obviously we can't trust the common man anymore. Let's stick him in a cage that is slightly less cage-like than prison. Think of the children (who we must also stick in cages later on).

You conservative vehicle nuts are going to be the ruin of us all.

The majority of your comment is nothing more than ultra left wing-nut liberal balderdash.......but the really funny part is this last part.

I'd be a wee bit careful about calling anyone a "nut." Talk about pot............kettle......... Too, too funny

 

[p_rehbein]

The ONLY SURE way to make the world SAFE is to BAN PEOPLE! I bet that would work!

Well, for people anyway. A large number of critters low on the food chain would be no more safe from the predatory critters higher on the food chain.

BUT AT LEAST NO PERSON WOULD BE KILLED BY A BALL POINT PEN!

 

[KimPetras]

Wow. You should be the voice of our new movement. AK47 just sounds evil, especially after you lumped it in with hydrogen bombs and grenades. I would add to that the Ford Taurus.

Our first goal should be to ban dangerous truck look-alikes like Chevy. They may not be true trucks, but they could certainly cause confusion and scare nursing mothers.

What? How can an item be evil though?!

Items aren't evil, people are evil. Leave AK47's and hydrogen bombs to average good citizen, it's bad people that do bad things, not the weapons!

Read my lips, "No infringements"!!

 

[TheAristocat]

What? How can an item be evil though?!

Items aren't evil, people are evil. Leave AK47's and hydrogen bombs to average good citizen, it's bad people that do bad things, not the weapons!

Read my lips, "No infringements"!!

That's crazy conservative talk! Conservatives will argue that just because the foundational law document that governs your country says no infringements we should have no infringements. Craziness! I don't think the proper legal avenue of amending the Constitution through a 2/3 majority vote in the House and Senate is necessary. Let's just skip past all that legal hugamubub and redefine what it meant by "infringe" by saying some arms can be banned but their right isn't infringed upon as long as they can have: an 8-round magazine in one locked case and an electronic biosignature hand gun in a separate locked case. And if they still are able to defend the life of their biological brother by unlocking the cases, loading their gun and shooting back in the 1 second it takes a criminal to pull a trigger, then they immediately go to prison for 20 years. Hm... Actually that sounds kind of familiar. I'm almost sure that my liberal friends in Congress have pushed legislation like this. Well, those evil conservatives and NRA lobbyists probably fought against it. Better luck next time.

In the mean time I urge you to renounce your misguided constitutional conservative views and join the modern progressive world. Together we can add new mandatory vehicular licenses and build a safer world for our children and our children's children. Surely if the terrorist who drove the truck into the mob on Bastille Day had had some new form of vehicle license not yet implemented he would have thought twice about killing 84 people. Think of the children!

 

[Depleted]

The majority of your comment is nothing more than ultra left wing-nut liberal balderdash.......but the really funny part is this last part.

I'd be a wee bit careful about calling anyone a "nut." Talk about pot............kettle......... Too, too funny

His tongue is so firmly in cheek it's sticking out the side of his face. (Joke, dude! Didn't catch it myself, but once I did it was hilarious.)

 

[Depleted]

The ONLY SURE way to make the world SAFE is to BAN PEOPLE! I bet that would work!

Well, for people anyway. A large number of critters low on the food chain would be no more safe from the predatory critters higher on the food chain.

BUT AT LEAST NO PERSON WOULD BE KILLED BY A BALL POINT PEN!

And wee elephants rule the world? I get your diabolical plan now.

 

[TheAristocat]

His tongue is so firmly in cheek it's sticking out the side of his face.

That made me really laugh out loud.

 

[Nautilus]

I've been aware of the dangerous nature of cars for a long time now. In fact when I was living in Beijing there was a car that drove into a crowd of people at Tiananmen Square, killing and injuring many. And then came the Bastille Day Massacre in Nice, France. A sociopathic killer driving a vehicle was able to kill 84 people. The article is below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...772ce6-4a0d-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Don't you think it's about time to take sensible steps to limit who can drive and what they can drive? How was this mentally-disturbed individual able to gain access to such a dangerous machine? If he only had a gun far fewer people would have died. So let's hear from progressives on this one. What policies should be in place to prevent such a destructive act in the future?

Examples include:
1. Limiting the size of a vehicle's fuel tank to 1 gallon of gasoline
2. Limiting the size of a vehicle's tires to half of what they are now
3. Reducing speed limits to 5 miles per hour in these areas
4. Having vehicle-buster signs, so that no vehicles will be allowed to enter these crowded areas
5. Having to pass FBI background checks to drive anything beyond a motorcycle
6. Completely banning dangerous and gratuitous vehicles such as pickup trucks

It's time for sensible vehicle control legislation. How many lives have to be lost before we come to our senses?

This is stupid. Im not even for stricter gun controls, but your analogy sucks. We have laws about this. Like you have to have a license, most states require insurance, most states require a permit period. You have to be trained with different licenses for different types of vehicles. If you break too many laws you cant drive anymore. There are actually already more restrictions on driving a car than there are on gun ownership.

 

[TheAristocat]

This is stupid. Im not even for stricter gun controls, but your analogy sucks. We have laws about this. Like you have to have a license, most states require insurance, most states require a permit period. You have to be trained with different licenses for different types of vehicles. If you break too many laws you cant drive anymore. There are actually already more restrictions on driving a car than there are on gun ownership.

If a man can kill 84 people with a truck, then it's not enough. We need more progressive legislation, comrade. Like inflatable bumpers and psychological evaluations to weed out those psychologically unfit to own heavy vehicles.

We also need to learn lessons from our past and enact the Responsible Vehicle Armor Possession Act (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/378/text). No level IV vehicular armor for common citizens. All vehicles should be made of foam peanuts, so police can take out these rampaging murderers more quickly.

 

[Desdichado]

I think the Bastille Day killer had a gun too... didn't he?

I say no to your proposal! Cars don't kill people, people kill people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Lets just arm every day citizens with AK47's, grenades, neutron bombs, atomic bombs, and hydrogen bombs.

Atomic bombs didn't kill innocent people in Japan, the pilot flying the plane that dropped the bombs kill them.

Hydrogen bombs don't blow things up, whoever detonates the bomb does.

Extended clips for fully automatic weapons don't kill people, people kill people.

Fully automatic glocks don't kill people, people kill people.

It's time we start giving people hydrogen bombs/AK47 extended clip, fully automatic assault rifles and glocks, etc... instead of birth certificates when they are born!

Posts like this make me happy Scalia put pen to paper.

 

[p_rehbein]

And wee elephants rule the world? I get your diabolical plan now.

Hmm, Gentelephants.......methinks it is time we "depleted' Depleted. There is growing evidence that she has discovered certain parts of our plans, and intends to make them public.

Gentelephants, while I do not normally advocate such an act, I fear this situation is too dire to not act.

A Trumpet to Arms!