Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school

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Demi777

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I could understand it if they would force the Tetanus vaccine on the kids but HPV shots is just ridiculous I think in this case the parents gotta step up because thats just nuts. Yea kids are going into intercourse sooner and sooner but come on now it aint that theres a HPV plague goin on.
 
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Hellooo

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If you want your child to participate in the public school system, then yes, they need to meet the vaccination requirements. Otherwise, there are other education options for special snowflakes.
 

Demi777

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If you want your child to participate in the public school system, then yes, they need to meet the vaccination requirements. Otherwise, there are other education options for special snowflakes.
Yeah some vaccines are needed but HPV vaccine is just ridiculous though. Theyre not in a brothel theyre in a school. 7th grade
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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Otherwise, there are other education options for special snowflakes.
Nice...
Any reason why those vax should contain formaldehyde that you know of?
 

Silverwings

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This shot has been very dangerous for many.
 

Dude653

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The anti-vaccine movement is based entirely on propaganda. You are putting other people's Children at Risk by refusing to vaccinate your children. Follow the rules or send them to private school
 

notmyown

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you can homeschool, but they don't have to be "special little snowflakes". ;)

we have friends who homeschooled their 12 kids (!! lol).
ten of them got pertussis because mom and dad didn't immunize. as adults, they recall that time as not so great.

however... if your child wants to go to college or join the military, guess what?

immunizations. all of them. this may vary state to state in the US.

it may be an evil system, but there seems no way around it.
especially if you don't want to get pertussis. :(
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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you can homeschool, but they don't have to be "special little snowflakes". ;)

we have friends who homeschooled their 12 kids (!! lol).
ten of them got pertussis because mom and dad didn't immunize. as adults, they recall that time as not so great.

however... if your child wants to go to college or join the military, guess what?

immunizations. all of them. this may vary state to state in the US.

it may be an evil system, but there seems no way around it.
especially if you don't want to get pertussis. :(
You mean whooping cough? Every child I knew growing up got that and we were all vaxxed.
 
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I could understand it if they would force the Tetanus vaccine on the kids but HPV shots is just ridiculous I think in this case the parents gotta step up because thats just nuts. Yea kids are going into intercourse sooner and sooner but come on now it aint that theres a HPV plague goin on.
Ummm, yes. There really is. 96% of uterine cancer is caused by HPV. The majority of mouth, throat, and stomach cancer is caused by HPV. It's an STD. And notice where the cancers that it causes are found. Directly related.

The problem is it's very much like HCV. It isn't a problem for the first 10 to 20 years it's in your system, but when it shows up, you're life is in serious danger. I knew a 19 year old girl who already had uterine cancer, and because of that, she would never have children. Not only is HPV passed on through sex, it's passed on to the children.

Sometimes the sins of the parents are literally passed on to the children. Isn't it time to stop it from passing on to the next generation?
 

Sheepman

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Its the worlds surrogat for total dependence on Jesus
Im not sying you lose your soul ..But the blessings of trusting in the Lord I havecrecently come to suspekt is manyfold.
Freedom and grace grow in his arms.

The line of the century espesially in my lost country is
"what sayeth the kids"
Its just stupid and ignorant. Im sorry. But we just conform to anything and blame it on the kids. I m sure they are very proud of us when they grow older and receive the "blessings " of this poison you dont even know what they put in it.

Its ridicoluos .

Can you see the apostle Paul role up his sleeve and let Jesus shoot him up.
Praise God we are still in the age of grace cause otherwise i would have exploded by the lukewarm souls we become. Myself included. Please God Jesus give us a brave heart again because this really sucks.
Again take the test.

Peter. He loved Jesus. Would he have patiently waited to get his own shot of salvation after the anxiety of having denied christ and then was restored by Jesus himself.
Come on.
He will soon be here right!!!! :))

I know how you feel all you who vehemently says we must take the sting.
I almost been there too.

Peace and grace to all the brothers and sisters.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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The anti-vaccine movement is based entirely on propaganda. You are putting other people's Children at Risk by refusing to vaccinate your children. Follow the rules or send them to private school
Just as the vaccine movement is entirely based on propaganda. I'm not anti-vaccine, I just think we should know what's in the syringe and why it's there...
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Nice...
Any reason why those vax should contain formaldehyde that you know of?
Harpocrates Speaks: Demystifying Vaccine Ingredients - Formaldehyde

Formaldehyde is a colorless gas with a rather strong odor, made up of a carbon atom, two hydrogen atoms and an atom of oxygen, CH[SUB]2[/SUB]O. It has very potent antibacterial and antifungal properties

Facial tissues, paper towels, napkins, paints, foams, insulation all utilize formaldehyde
. Perhaps its most famous use is in embalming, the preservation of dead tissues, at least for a short while.

With the ubiquitous manufacture and use of this chemical, questions about its safety naturally arise. OSHA has rather extensive guidelines on its safe use and health effects. Acute, short-term exposure to large amounts can be fatal. Long-term chronic exposure to inhaled or topical formaldehyde can result in respiratory illnesses, skin irritation and has long been a suspected carcinogen. In 2011, the U.S. government changed its designation from "reasonably likely" to cause cancer in humans, based on cancer studies in animals, to "known carcinogen". However, these health issues are primarily a risk for those who regularly work with large, industrial quantities of the substance; they are exposed to much higher levels than the rest of us


... in addition to off-gassing from products like carpet, upholstery and combustibles, formaldehyde is all around us

The NIH Report on Carcinogens, 12th Edition, profile on formaldehyde states that it is in the "air, soil, food, treated and bottled drinking water, surface water and groundwater". Our primary route of exposure is breathing it, indoors or outdoors. Much of this inhaled formaldehyde comes from car exhaust, tobacco smoke, power plants, forest fires and wood stoves

What many people may not know is that our own bodies produce and use formaldehyde as a part of our normal metabolism

When we are exposed to methanol (e.g., via inhalation or ingestion of foods like citric fruits and juices, vegetables or fermented beverages), our bodies break it down into formaldehyde and other byproducts. Our bodies produce formaldehyde as a result of DNA demethylation (an important process for controlling gene expression, e.g., in developing embryos) and other biological processes. It is such a regular part of human metabolism, that our normal, naturally produced blood concentrations are generally about 2-3μg of formaldehyde per gram of blood (or about 2.12-3.18μg/mL)*. And it is actually a pretty important chemical; our bodies use formaldehyde to form DNA and amino acids (Toxicological Profile for Formaldehyde [PDF], ATSDR, 1999).


Looking at the recommended schedule of vaccines from the CDC, let's pick the vaccines from that list that a child might receive in their first 6 years of life (picking the highest amounts, just for illustration). Note, not all of these are actually required for school entry and lower formaldehyde content vaccines are available for most of these:

  • HepB - Recombivax - 3 doses (birth, 1-2 mos. and 6-18 mos.) - 7.5μg/dose
  • DTaP - Infanrix - 5 doses (2 mos., 4 mos., 6 mos., 15-18 mos. and 4-6 yrs.) - 100μg/dose
  • Hib - ActHIB - 3 doses (2 mos., 4 mos. and 12-15 mos.) - 0.5μg/dose
  • IPV - IPOL - 4 doses (2 mos., 4 mos., 6-18 mos. and 4-6 yrs.) - 100μg/dose
  • Influenza - Fluzone - 7 doses (6 mos., 12 mos. and yearly 2-6 yrs.) - 100μg/dose
  • HepA - Havrix - 2 doses (12 mos. and 6-18 mos. after first dose) - 100μg/dose
That's all of the vaccines on the recommended schedule for 0-6 years that contain formaldehyde. If a child got all of those doses all at once (which they never would), they would get a total of 1,824μg, or 1.824mg, of formaldehyde. A 3.2kg (~7lb) newborn with an average blood volume of 83.3mL/kg would naturally have, at any given time, about 575-862μg of formaldehyde circulating in their blood. By the time they are 6 years old (~46lb or 21kg), they'll naturally have 3,562-5,342μg of formaldehyde in their blood. Bear in mind that the formaldehyde from each shot will not build up in their bodies from shot to shot, as it is very rapidly (within hours) metabolized and eliminated as formate in the urine or breathed out as CO[SUB]2[/SUB].

So what's the most a child might get in a single office visit? That would probably be at their 6 month visit (when they are, on average, 16.5lbs or 7.5kg) with HepB, DTaP, IPV and flu, for a total of 307.5μg. That is about 160 times less than the total amount their body naturally produces every single day*. Compare that to the 428.4-1,516.4μg of formaldehyde in a single apple.

*With a blood half-life of about 1.5 minutes, this means that the human body produces about 50,000μg of formaldehyde
 
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KimPetras

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I could understand it if they would force the Tetanus vaccine on the kids but HPV shots is just ridiculous I think in this case the parents gotta step up because thats just nuts. Yea kids are going into intercourse sooner and sooner but come on now it aint that theres a HPV plague goin on.
I assume you're being sarcastic with this comment as it's estimated that 75% of people in the reproductive age has been infected with at least 1 type of genital HPV. This leads to cervical, colon, and throat cancer.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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I assume you're being sarcastic with this comment as it's estimated that 75% of people in the reproductive age has been infected with at least 1 type of genital HPV. This leads to cervical, colon, and throat cancer.
sounds like the vax isn't working.
 
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KimPetras

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Yeah some vaccines are needed but HPV vaccine is just ridiculous though. Theyre not in a brothel theyre in a school. 7th grade
STDs are not exclusively transmitted sexually as their name indicates. Furthermore, it's my understanding that the vaccine is most ideal at about 11 years old. You can only take the vaccine up to a certain age, and then it is no longer offered to you.