Obama attempting to FORCE surgeons to operate on youngsters; gender change.

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JosephsDreams

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How can any Christian vote for four more years of this? What wrong with you Hillary supporters?

[h=1]Forcing doctors to operate: Team Obama’s new low in the name of ‘trans rights’[/h][FONT=&quot]By Post Editorial Board
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[FONT=&quot][/FONT]One of the top guardians of American freedoms just entered the fight against the Obama administration’s insane excesses in the name of “trans rights.”
The Department of Health and Human Services recently issued rules telling doctors they can’t decline to perform gender-reassignment surgery on kids if it’s recommended by a “mental health professional.” Refusal could be a career-ender.
How crazy is the rule? Well, for starters, most trans teens identify differently later in life — yet reassignment surgery is often irreversible, and even less-radical procedures can be harmful, as HHS’ own medical experts note.
Not to mention that the Hippocratic Oath (and basic human conscience) enjoins doctors from doing procedures they believe harmful to their patients.
On top of that, the rule also orders private insurers and employers to cover the procedures — even though Medicare and Medicaid, which HHS oversees, don’t.
Headed to court to toss the HHS rule is the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which is undefeated before the Supreme Court — capped by four wins when going up against the Obama administration.
Becket’s clients of record here include Franciscan Alliance, a religious hospital network, and the Christian Medical & Dental Associations; five states have also joined the lawsuit.
It seems an open-and-shut case: How can HHS possibly justify ordering a doctor to perform a surgery he believes harmful?
Even the mandate to employers and insurers is a clear overreach. If the rule stands, those who won’t cover gender-transition procedures will face severe penalties — yet HHS has no basis in federal law for declaring this to be essential medical care.
Indeed, a federal judge recently blocked another Team Obama trans-rights offensive for similar reasons.
The Education Department wants to withhold federal funds from schools that don’t recognize trans kids’ right to choose which bathrooms and locker rooms to use. But that, US District Judge Reed O’Connor found, utterly misreads Congress’ clear intent in banning “sex discrimination” in schools.
Bottom line: The administration is trying to impose its own trendy ideology across the land — in defiance of the law, science and democratic norms. Every friend of liberty should be fighting back
 
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Obama has no idea he's going to burn for eons.
 

Yet

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This nation deserves Obama. They got what they think they wanted. He'll 'burn up' not forever.
 
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Mitspa

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No one that would vote for these insane and wicked liberals can ever convince me they are sincere followers of Christ.
 

JosephsDreams

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Dec 31, 2015
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Actually they may be sincere, but extremely misguided. and maybe not to knowledgeable about the word. And maybe not to smart. Deceived by the devil with one foot in the world and one foot jammed in heavens door.
They are sincere in the depth of their deception and certainty they see the light.
It is very sad, and they need our prayers.
Remember, Jesus said "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect."
Well it is clear some of them are being deceived.
Woe to them.
Woe to us to suffer them. Let us love them still.
 

JosephsDreams

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The thing that really amazes me is that the line of delineation is so clear, so obvious, that I am stunned any card carrying Christian could not perceive it.
What more do they need, for satan himself to show up?
 

Tommy379

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Jan 12, 2016
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How can any Christian vote for four more years of this? What wrong with you Hillary supporters?

[h=1]Forcing doctors to operate: Team Obama’s new low in the name of ‘trans rights’[/h][FONT=&quot]By Post Editorial Board
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August 27, 2016 | 9:00pm
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Barack ObamaPhoto: Reuters
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[FONT=&quot][/FONT]One of the top guardians of American freedoms just entered the fight against the Obama administration’s insane excesses in the name of “trans rights.”
The Department of Health and Human Services recently issued rules telling doctors they can’t decline to perform gender-reassignment surgery on kids if it’s recommended by a “mental health professional.” Refusal could be a career-ender.
How crazy is the rule? Well, for starters, most trans teens identify differently later in life — yet reassignment surgery is often irreversible, and even less-radical procedures can be harmful, as HHS’ own medical experts note.
Not to mention that the Hippocratic Oath (and basic human conscience) enjoins doctors from doing procedures they believe harmful to their patients.
On top of that, the rule also orders private insurers and employers to cover the procedures — even though Medicare and Medicaid, which HHS oversees, don’t.
Headed to court to toss the HHS rule is the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which is undefeated before the Supreme Court — capped by four wins when going up against the Obama administration.
Becket’s clients of record here include Franciscan Alliance, a religious hospital network, and the Christian Medical & Dental Associations; five states have also joined the lawsuit.
It seems an open-and-shut case: How can HHS possibly justify ordering a doctor to perform a surgery he believes harmful?
Even the mandate to employers and insurers is a clear overreach. If the rule stands, those who won’t cover gender-transition procedures will face severe penalties — yet HHS has no basis in federal law for declaring this to be essential medical care.
Indeed, a federal judge recently blocked another Team Obama trans-rights offensive for similar reasons.
The Education Department wants to withhold federal funds from schools that don’t recognize trans kids’ right to choose which bathrooms and locker rooms to use. But that, US District Judge Reed O’Connor found, utterly misreads Congress’ clear intent in banning “sex discrimination” in schools.
Bottom line: The administration is trying to impose its own trendy ideology across the land — in defiance of the law, science and democratic norms. Every friend of liberty should be fighting back
Not any old surgeon does this kind of work. Isn't gender reassignment surgery done by doctors who are trained and experienced in this kind of debauchery. So wouldnt the physicians forced to this be the ones all about it anyways.
 

zeroturbulence

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Sometimes I wonder if the liberals do this kind of thing just to upset the conservatives... because there's really nothing in it for them, except the gay vote, which at last count was only about 2% of the population..
 
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Deuteronomy 23:1 KJV ..He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
ESV...“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.


No person altering what God created will be saved! Cutting off the " .." is also cutting one off from the kingdom of God.
 

Yet

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the black 'born again' christians would stop voting demon-crat? They vote liberal for the 'free stuff'.
 
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kaylagrl

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the black 'born again' christians would stop voting demon-crat? They vote liberal for the 'free stuff'.

I watched "Hillary's America" cannot understand for the life of me why blacks would vote for Dems. Not a lick of sense. But I cant imagine how anyone who calls themselves a Christian would vote for her either. Ive had my eyes opened in these last few months.
 

Nautilus

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Deuteronomy 23:1 KJV ..He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
ESV...“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.


No person altering what God created will be saved! Cutting off the " .." is also cutting one off from the kingdom of God.
So all those choir boys who were castrated to retain high pitched vocies back in the day are just instantly cursed to hell? Slaves who had no choice in the matter but were castrated by owners are cursed? What if someone lost their testicles or penis in tragic accident? I know some soldiers who lost theirs in a bombing. Based on your clearly misguided use of scripture. these men will never make it to heaven.

Maybe try to use a little more reasoning before you google, copy, and paste some scripture trying to make a point.
 

Yet

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#13
How can any Christian vote for four more years of this? What wrong with you Hillary supporters?

Forcing doctors to operate: Team Obama’s new low in the name of ‘trans rights’

By Post Editorial Board

August 27, 2016 | 9:00pm

Modal Trigger
Barack ObamaPhoto: Reuters

One of the top guardians of American freedoms just entered the fight against the Obama administration’s insane excesses in the name of “trans rights.”
The Department of Health and Human Services recently issued rules telling doctors they can’t decline to perform gender-reassignment surgery on kids if it’s recommended by a “mental health professional.” Refusal could be a career-ender.
How crazy is the rule? Well, for starters, most trans teens identify differently later in life — yet reassignment surgery is often irreversible, and even less-radical procedures can be harmful, as HHS’ own medical experts note.
Not to mention that the Hippocratic Oath (and basic human conscience) enjoins doctors from doing procedures they believe harmful to their patients.
On top of that, the rule also orders private insurers and employers to cover the procedures — even though Medicare and Medicaid, which HHS oversees, don’t.
Headed to court to toss the HHS rule is the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which is undefeated before the Supreme Court — capped by four wins when going up against the Obama administration.
Becket’s clients of record here include Franciscan Alliance, a religious hospital network, and the Christian Medical & Dental Associations; five states have also joined the lawsuit.
It seems an open-and-shut case: How can HHS possibly justify ordering a doctor to perform a surgery he believes harmful?
Even the mandate to employers and insurers is a clear overreach. If the rule stands, those who won’t cover gender-transition procedures will face severe penalties — yet HHS has no basis in federal law for declaring this to be essential medical care.
Indeed, a federal judge recently blocked another Team Obama trans-rights offensive for similar reasons.
The Education Department wants to withhold federal funds from schools that don’t recognize trans kids’ right to choose which bathrooms and locker rooms to use. But that, US District Judge Reed O’Connor found, utterly misreads Congress’ clear intent in banning “sex discrimination” in schools.
Bottom line: The administration is trying to impose its own trendy ideology across the land — in defiance of the law, science and democratic norms. Every friend of liberty should be fighting back
A large percentage of 'born again' blacks will vote Hillary in. If Obama and his team don't create a disaster and call for martial law so Sodomite Obama can get a third term in.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Dec 11, 2014
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So all those choir boys who were castrated to retain high pitched vocies back in the day are just instantly cursed to hell? Slaves who had no choice in the matter but were castrated by owners are cursed? What if someone lost their testicles or penis in tragic accident? I know some soldiers who lost theirs in a bombing. Based on your clearly misguided use of scripture. these men will never make it to heaven.

Maybe try to use a little more reasoning before you google, copy, and paste some scripture trying to make a point.
Though this is an old post, I wanted to point out that the poster of this quoted post clearly used it to refer to people who live out their desire to be the other gender, and not people who had their genitals removed forcibly.

It is you who took her post out of context, and not her who used the verse in the way you described.