Can Islam Coexist with the West?

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Truthseer

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Islam can't coexist with anyone as long as its original purpose remains. There actually is no religion called Islam. It has no god- Allah has no definition at all. He is God - of what? righteousness? Not likely. Of creation? Another God lays claim to that, and did so thousands of years earlier. Mohammad never prophesied anything, so he is not a prophet. No religion has only one prophet anyway. Mohammad did make up the religion - as a military tactic. He very soon went out and got killed in the fighting he started. There is no religious structure to Islam. I realized this when Rusty Humphries cited parts of the Quran on his show. It's nothing but a collection of insane ravings. If there is a religion, what is it? What is its value system, its laws, its rules? It has very little in the way of rituals, except bowing to Mecca and sawing heads off. What is Sharia Law? Nobody wants to say. AS far as I know, it is any punishment the local mullah decides to put on someone. It is not a law system; It is brutality. Mercy is not in it's rule book. It is 7th century barbarism with insanity combined
 
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True islam cannot coexist with itself let alone the western world..
MATE.....I tell all my Aussie friends that when the world goes south and the proverbial crap hits the fan....the 220 million Muslims just north of Australia will invade.....I suggest a hidden hole with supplies in the middle of the Blue Mountains on a water source and a way to disappear and defend yourself.......

Just saying.......destiny favors the prepared...........
 

p_rehbein

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Why limit the question to Islam? The Chinese, the Russians, North Koreans, and various African Nations don't seem to be able to coexist with the West either.

(just saying)
 

Adstar

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Islam with sharia laws? No
Law- abiding muslims who believe in Allah but follow western rules? Yes

There are peaceful muslims out there, probably many of them, but the problem is that it's not the peaceful ones that want to change our society to fit their laws, that's the dangerous ones, and they are the ones that are the most eager to get here it seems.
A muslim cannot believe allah according to the quran and follow western rules.. They are called to fight jihad untill they overcome the unbelievers and impose sharia law and establish islam as the only religion... The only ones who do follow western rules are called hypocrites in islam and are worthy of death.. ISIS are killing many of these fake muslims in syria and Iraq now for not following the qurans definitions of what islam is and what muslims must do..
 

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MATE.....I tell all my Aussie friends that when the world goes south and the proverbial crap hits the fan....the 220 million Muslims just north of Australia will invade.....I suggest a hidden hole with supplies in the middle of the Blue Mountains on a water source and a way to disappear and defend yourself.......

Just saying.......destiny favors the prepared...........
I already have thought about it and i am well aware that this could and probably will happen.. But death is not the end of me.. :) Do not fear those who can take our physical life.. But fear Him who can take my eternal life...
 
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I already have thought about it and i am well aware that this could and probably will happen.. But death is not the end of me.. :) Do not fear those who can take our physical life.. But fear Him who can take my eternal life...
AMEN, Jesus did say flee ;) HAHA and I would kind of like to be around to see his coming (if within his will)
 

maxwel

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Can Islam Coexist with the West?


Of course.



Islam has been peacefully coexisting with the west since about 700 AD....
when they invaded and conquered Spain, and then tried to invade and conquer France, at which point they were only stopped through bloody battles by the army of Charlemagne.



Oops... did I say that?
 

gb9

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Can Islam Coexist with the West?


Of course.



Islam has been peacefully coexisting with the west since about 700 AD....
when they invaded and conquered Spain, and then tried to invade and conquer France, at which point they were only stopped through bloody battles by the army of Charlemagne.



Oops... did I say that?
better be careful. telling actual truth like this can be labeled as hate speech. or racism. or islamophobia. or discrimination. or nationalism. or fake news.
or anything the left comes up with to try to shut down truth.
 
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kaylagrl

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Why limit the question to Islam? The Chinese, the Russians, North Koreans, and various African Nations don't seem to be able to coexist with the West either.

(just saying)

Cause thats what the video was about so I gave it that title :)
 

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AMEN, Jesus did say flee ;) HAHA and I would kind of like to be around to see his coming (if within his will)
:D He is well able to keep us alive if that is His will.. If He kept a poor excuse for a prophet like Jonah alive then He may as well keep a person like me alive.. lol His will be done.. :)
 

HeraldtheNews

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Islam in the form it is in now, can not co-exist with the West because by their own admission, the West is their enemy which they intend to overcome with their religious legalism that Christ overcame 2,000 years ago. Judaic law was valid since salvation history was revealed through Israel and the Judaic Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth, who fulfilled religious law and established the New Covenant and the "New Israel" of all true believers who walk in God's love because they know Jesus and not religion. While some of the spiritual disciplines of the Muslim faith may be worthwhile, as Judaic disciplines were, they can be considered an idol of religion because they are "religious performance" for it's own sake without pointing to the fulfillment of the law in Jesus, the Son of God. Without Jesus, their religious laws have no purpose or fulfillment, since of themselves, they can not earn God's favor. Jesus, as the Judaic Lamb of God, is the only way to Heaven, and freedom from the bondage of religious legalism. Heaven must be received as a free-gift, Paul said, so that people can not claim they are good enough to earn a relationship with God, that was only possible through the Divine Son of God, since it is impossible for anyone but Christ, to perfectly live the Law of Moses. Because He perfectly lived the Law, He received the "death penalty," under the Law, which was to save all people who receive and live His way as a free-gift of God's favor. This is the message of salvation for all humanity--the Good News. This can not be found in any other religion.

But, John does say in the Christian scriptures that all people who know God's love in their hearts and lives, truly know God, and are called to Heaven.
 

HeraldtheNews

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Islam can't coexist with anyone as long as its original purpose remains. There actually is no religion called Islam. It has no god- Allah has no definition at all. He is God - of what? righteousness? Not likely. Of creation? Another God lays claim to that, and did so thousands of years earlier. Mohammad never prophesied anything, so he is not a prophet. No religion has only one prophet anyway. Mohammad did make up the religion - as a military tactic. He very soon went out and got killed in the fighting he started. There is no religious structure to Islam. I realized this when Rusty Humphries cited parts of the Quran on his show. It's nothing but a collection of insane ravings. If there is a religion, what is it? What is its value system, its laws, its rules? It has very little in the way of rituals, except bowing to Mecca and sawing heads off. What is Sharia Law? Nobody wants to say. AS far as I know, it is any punishment the local mullah decides to put on someone. It is not a law system; It is brutality. Mercy is not in it's rule book. It is 7th century barbarism with insanity combined
James said: "Mercy triumphs over judgment." And pointless, chaotic religious legalism. But, can we say in the West that we are innocent of pointless, chaotic idolatry and secularism?