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Sirk

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I'll bet there isn't a US Marine alive that hasnt said far worse. They just don't have a recording of it. Boys will be boys.
 

Roughsoul1991

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As a Christian,recognize what Is GODly and what Is not.
I'm not saying Hillary Is a better choice than Donald,but I AM saying,I haven't seen anyone on CC praising Hillary but I HAVE seen professing christians on here Praising Donald Trump.

I'm voting for a write-In.
You got 2 choices that's it. You can be part of the solution or part of the problem. We all agree Trump is no saint so stop lying. I have not heard any Christian praising trump as a saint. We just know we got 2 choices and we see the greater threat. A write in is only a wasted vote. You might as well not vote. Why would I sit here and spread lies about the candidate I want to win. It may seem like I am speaking highly of him but that would be stupid of me to speak lies and talk bad about him when I am trying to get people to understand we got the country, supreme court, and who knows what else at stake with this election.
 
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Believe it or not I've changed my tune on Trump. I'm thinking of a write in but we both know writing in won't change much. Trump or Hillary will win. I'm NOT voting for Hillary. And I'm not sure I can fully support trump in good conscience so I'm stumped.
Just curious,what Influenced you to change your position,I mean Donald Trump hasn't changed?
 

shrimp

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I hope maybe he gives a quick apology because he has already released a really good video of him apologizing. So I hope not much bashing against him will be done after he already has apologized. I hope they talk more on how they will correct the problems of this country.
I haven't watched the video yet. yes he does need to issue a quick apology, if that is what he did, because no one seems to be covering his video at all, only the problem. So, there are a LOT of people who haven't heard his apology.
Personally, I can understand why many women are offended by what he said, however He apologized and that is more than Hillary can say. I'll have to watch that apology.

The last debate was awful just interruptions and talking over and bashing and not talking about important issues.(Clearly rigged in Hillary's favor, although that backfired no one was fooled) This one had better be better. Trump isn't my guy but in this debate, he should be the guy who keeps it to the issues and presents and stands up for his policies.

I'm excited to hear what Castle's live responses are, they were great last time.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I haven't watched the video yet. yes he does need to issue a quick apology, if that is what he did, because no one seems to be covering his video at all, only the problem. So, there are a LOT of people who haven't heard his apology.
Personally, I can understand why many women are offended by what he said, however He apologized and that is more than Hillary can say. I'll have to watch that apology.

The last debate was awful just interruptions and talking over and bashing and not talking about important issues.(Clearly rigged in Hillary's favor, although that backfired no one was fooled) This one had better be better. Trump isn't my guy but in this debate, he should be the guy who keeps it to the issues and presents and stands up for his policies.

I'm excited to hear what Castle's live responses are, they were great last time.
I by no means except what he said but I do know people can change. We grow older and sometimes wiser. Like I said earlier I am sure I have said some stupid stuff 10 years ago too but completely disagree with my old opinions. All that matters is what he says now. And he says a lot of things to support woman and stands on issues supporting woman. So I truly believe the video of him apologizing. His wife was even mad at him about the video but also released a video saying she does not support what he said but forgives him and telling us that man is not the same man we see today. I just wonder how many times does a man have to say sorry before we give forgiveness? I know I have put my wife through mess because I was young and or stubborn. I have said mean things to her in the past that now looking back I have grown more mature and realise how wrong I was.
 

HoneyDew

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The selective forgiveness and selective moral outrage needs to cease. What's wrong is wrong and if we are going to be forgiving of those that have made a mistake then that forgiveness should be available universally. You don't have to eat a whole cake to know how it tastes. You pretty much know all you need to know from the slice you are served.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Believe it or not I've changed my tune on Trump. I'm thinking of a write in but we both know writing in won't change much. Trump or Hillary will win. I'm NOT voting for Hillary. And I'm not sure I can fully support trump in good conscience so I'm stumped.
part of me wants to sympathize and welcome you back to the light side...

part of me has been deeply and repeatedly offended by trump supporters and wants only to unleash a barrage of 'told you so' snark and demand profuse apologies and so on...

i think i'll just not say much of anything other than to address the facts as i see them...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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The recent situation triggered a very traumatic issue that happened in my past.
likewise for me...although probably based on a different experience...

what stood out to me was donald trump's boasting that he can do those things to women because he is 'a star'...in other words -because he has the power to-

and trump's love of abusing power is not restricted to this one occurrence...another recording of him on the howard stern show has him talking about how he would go into the dressing areas at the miss universe competitions while the contestants were undressed...he bragged that this was his prerogative as the 'owner' of the competition...

donald trump's primary interest in power is to abuse it and victimize others...often women...

it has me concerned for my personal safety when this person who seeks power solely for the sake of abusing it is now seeking the power to get away with almost anything...

i have been stalked before...i know what it is like to not feel safe in my own home...

-all- options are now on the table as far as voting is concerned...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I just wonder how many times does a man have to say sorry before we give forgiveness?
at this point it will take something quite a bit more than just 'saying sorry'...talk is cheap...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Out of Hillary or Trump who is worse? We only can vote for 1 or the other. Any other vote will be worthless.
if you are a trump supporter then you do -not- want to make that 'lesser of two evils' argument to me right now...
 
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I just saw some breaking news.Looks like Trump has chosen the low road.
I dont think his apology will be sincere,but presumptuous and bombastic.
 
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CharlieGrown

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I just saw some breaking news.Looks like Trump has chosen the low road.
I dont think his apology will be sincere,but presumptuous and bombastic.
Yeah, it won't be as good as Hillary's apology....oooh, right.
 
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I haven't watched the video yet. yes he does need to issue a quick apology, if that is what he did, because no one seems to be covering his video at all, only the problem. So, there are a LOT of people who haven't heard his apology.
Personally, I can understand why many women are offended by what he said, however He apologized and that is more than Hillary can say. I'll have to watch that apology.

The last debate was awful just interruptions and talking over and bashing and not talking about important issues.(Clearly rigged in Hillary's favor, although that backfired no one was fooled) This one had better be better. Trump isn't my guy but in this debate, he should be the guy who keeps it to the issues and presents and stands up for his policies.

I'm excited to hear what Castle's live responses are, they were great last time.
I expect Donald Trump to do what I expected him to do the first time,INSULT,INSULT,INSULT,DEFLECT,DEFLECT,DEFLECT.

The whole world will be watching.

Seriously?Is this the guy the PEOPLE of The United States want as their President,hmmm,thats deplorable
 

shrimp

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I expect Donald Trump to do what I expected him to do the first time,INSULT,INSULT,INSULT,DEFLECT,DEFLECT,DEFLECT.

The whole world will be watching.

Seriously?Is this the guy the PEOPLE of The United States want as their President,hmmm,thats deplorable
Agreed. I also expect more of the same ol', same ol'.
These kinds of elections are the reason why people become alcoholics, I think. LOL
 

Roughsoul1991

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if you are a trump supporter then you do -not- want to make that 'lesser of two evils' argument to me right now...
I thought Jesus spoke of forgiving others instead of holding grudges? Since you know none of us is perfect and all deserve death. And don't worry there is no point in arguing with you.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I thought Jesus spoke of forgiving others instead of holding grudges? Since you know none of us is perfect and all deserve death. And don't worry there is no point in arguing with you.
forgiveness and enabling are two different things...

electing someone who habitually commits acts of sexual assault...to an office where he can be assured that he will never be held accountable for it...is the highest form of enabling possible...

-not- forgiveness...
 
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CharlieGrown

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electing someone who habitually commits acts of sexual assault...to an office where he can be assured that he will never be held accountable for it...is the highest form of enabling...

-not- forgiveness...
Agreed. Whatever you do, do NOT vote Hillary. Research Cathy O'Brien testimony.