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Roughsoul1991

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[video]https://youtu.be/skoHC8xhqws[/video]
Trump VS Hillary on *ABORTION* Final Debate 10/19/16

Before Applauding Hillary's Abortion Remarks, Know The One Fact She Ignored
[FONT=&quot]These babies are big enough to live, but they are too small to speak. We must do it for them. Don’t let these lies kill another child in such a horrific manner.
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So sad people can not decide who to vote for. I watch my children and the love I have grown for them I could never just give up on my unborn child even if the Doctors say they would not live. When my wife was pregnant she made me promise if the pregnancy took a bad turn and I had to choose between my wife or the baby to live, she made me promise to choose the baby. The unborn have the same human rights as the mother. Life begins with the conception of egg and seed. People want to argue the baby is not alive until it gains a heartbeat. Well, this is far from true since if you leave that little speck alone guess what will happen? A heart beat will emerge and so called life will begin. So ignorant to believe that. [/FONT][h=1][/h]
 
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It's beyond time to end the legalized child sacrifice to Molech.
 
shrimp

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Roughsoul1991 said:
[video]https://youtu.be/skoHC8xhqws[/video]
Trump VS Hillary on *ABORTION* Final Debate 10/19/16

Before Applauding Hillary's Abortion Remarks, Know The One Fact She Ignored
These babies are big enough to live, but they are too small to speak. We must do it for them. Don’t let these lies kill another child in such a horrific manner.

So sad people can not decide who to vote for. I watch my children and the love I have grown for them I could never just give up on my unborn child even if the Doctors say they would not live. When my wife was pregnant she made me promise if the pregnancy took a bad turn and I had to choose between my wife or the baby to live, she made me promise to choose the baby. The unborn have the same human rights as the mother. Life begins with the conception of egg and seed. People want to argue the baby is not alive until it gains a heartbeat. Well, this is far from true since if you leave that little speck alone guess what will happen? A heart beat will emerge and so called life will begin. So ignorant to believe that.
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I had my husband swear the same. Life begins at conception.So SICK of people deciding what people are people.I think we learned that lesson via Disney's Pocahontas.
"You think the only people who are people
are the people who look and think like you.
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger,
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew."

I know, my millennial is showing:rolleyes:
 
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are you saying congress has no say in this? That if the president has an opinion on the matter it is what will be made law?
Sounds unlikely to me. Unless you are saying your own country isn't a democracy
 
Tommy379

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wwjd_kilden said:
are you saying congress has no say in this? That if the president has an opinion on the matter it is what will be made law?
Sounds unlikely to me. Unless you are saying your own country isn't a democracy
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The president nominates the supreme court judges. The supreme court is the body that decided the states could not outlaw baby murder.
 
Tommy379

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wwjd_kilden said:
are you saying congress has no say in this? That if the president has an opinion on the matter it is what will be made law?
Sounds unlikely to me. Unless you are saying your own country isn't a democracy
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Our country is not a democracy, it is a republic. True democracy leads to the tyranny of the majority.
 
tourist

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shrimp said:
I had my husband swear the same. Life begins at conception.So SICK of people deciding what people are people.I think we learned that lesson via Disney's Pocahontas.
"You think the only people who are people
are the people who look and think like you.
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger,
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew."

I know, my millennial is showing:rolleyes:
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How high does the sycamore grow?
If you cut it down, then you'll never know.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Tommy379 said:
The president nominates the supreme court judges. The supreme court is the body that decided the states could not outlaw baby murder.
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aaaah, I see
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Tommy379 said:
Our country is not a democracy, it is a republic. True democracy leads to the tyranny of the majority.
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and that is worse than the tyranny of one person given power? (History has enough examples of dictatorship)
 
shrimp

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wwjd_kilden said:
and that is worse than the tyranny of one person given power? (History has enough examples of dictatorship)
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It's not about what is worse, the fact is dictatorships and democracy is bad for this country. Republic is best for this country.
 
Test_F_i_2_Luv

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shrimp said:
I had my husband swear the same. Life begins at conception.So SICK of people deciding what people are people.I think we learned that lesson via Disney's Pocahontas.
"You think the only people who are people
are the people who look and think like you.
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger,
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew."

I know, my millennial is showing:rolleyes:
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If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-choice.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-woman.

if you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women's health-care choices.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women having control over their bodies and women's autonomy(even though abortion allows women to destroy both future men and women's bodies).

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're a right-wing extremist.

All this according to Liberalism and Demoncrats. Why would you want to be anti-choice, anti-yourself(anti-woman), anti-health care, etc?


 
Tommy379

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wwjd_kilden said:
and that is worse than the tyranny of one person given power? (History has enough examples of dictatorship)
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A republic does not give one person power. The problem is the people keep electing the same corrupt representatives that talk real nice and haven't been caught in their sexual deviance yet. The idea of a republic is to make it extremely difficult for the government to do anything.
 
shrimp

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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-choice.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-woman.

if you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women's health-care choices.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women having control over their bodies and women's autonomy(even though abortion allows women to destroy both future men and women's bodies).

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're a right-wing extremist.

All this according to Liberalism and Demoncrats. Why would you want to be anti-choice, anti-yourself(anti-woman), anti-health care, etc?
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Because I'm pro LIFE. To be otherwise is pro DEATH and ANTI Constitution.
This is a human rights issue. What gives people the right to decide that our offspring aren't human? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

If recognizing the humanity of our unborn children makes me an extremist to some people then so be it that is their opinion.
You know what is REALLY extreme? declaring that someone isn't human because they rely on their MOTHER for everything or declaring that someone isn't human because they are a girl or are disabled or are going to die anyway or will cost too much.
That's a slippery slope. If babies are not safe, no one is.
 
Tommy379

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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-choice.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're anti-woman.

if you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women's health-care choices.

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're opposed to women having control over their bodies and women's autonomy(even though abortion allows women to destroy both future men and women's bodies).

If you're not for abortion on demand, you're a right-wing extremist.

All this according to Liberalism and Demoncrats. Why would you want to be anti-choice, anti-yourself(anti-woman), anti-health care, etc?
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I like what you wrote here. If I could, I'd like to make a change:

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're anti-choice.

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're anti-woman.

if you're not for baby murder demand, you're opposed to women's health-care choices.

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're opposed to women having control over their bodies and women's autonomy(even though baby murder allows women to destroy both future men and women's bodies).

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're a right-wing extremist.

All this according to Liberalism and Demoncrats. Why would you want to be anti-choice, anti-yourself(anti-woman), anti-health care, etc?




Maybe we should be calling it what it really is, including the politicians that are fighting against this genocide.
 
Test_F_i_2_Luv

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shrimp said:
Because I'm pro LIFE. To be otherwise is pro DEATH and ANTI Constitution.
This is a human rights issue. What gives people the right to decide that our offspring aren't human? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Left wingers, libamorals, and Demoncrats don't apply the constitution to unborn humans. Oops, what we call unborn humans are "blobs of tissue", "products of conception", "fetuses", and "parasites" to them...unless the unborn is wanted. Then the unborn is human.

shrimp said:
If recognizing the humanity of our unborn children makes me an extremist to some people then so be it that is their opinion.
You know what is REALLY extreme? declaring that someone isn't human because they rely on their MOTHER for everything or declaring that someone isn't human because they are a girl or are disabled or are going to die anyway or will cost too much.
That's a slippery slope. If babies are not safe, no one is.
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If recognizing the humanity of our unborn children makes me an extremist to some people then so be it that is their opinion. It seems to me that twisting and tearing apart a human is about as extreme as it gets...

declaring that someone isn't human because they rely on their MOTHER for everything Well, I guess if you need to be in another person's body to survive, you're not human.
 
Test_F_i_2_Luv

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Tommy379 said:
I like what you wrote here. If I could, I'd like to make a change:

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're anti-choice.

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're anti-woman.

if you're not for baby murder demand, you're opposed to women's health-care choices.

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're opposed to women having control over their bodies and women's autonomy(even though baby murder allows women to destroy both future men and women's bodies).

If you're not for baby murder on demand, you're a right-wing extremist.

All this according to Liberalism and Demoncrats. Why would you want to be anti-choice, anti-yourself(anti-woman), anti-health care, etc?


Maybe we should be calling it what it really is, including the politicians that are fighting against this genocide.
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I agree with the description. I think "abortion on demand" is a more gentle way of describing the opposition and can open the opportunity for dialogue more because some who classify themselves as "pro-choice" aren't for abortion on demand. Some will call themselves pro-choice yet favor some or substantial restrictions.

I also use the phrase "abortion on demand" because I refuse to call the opponent what they want to be called, which is "pro-choice". Why does the phrase "pro-choice" always get associated with abortion? Why are abortion advocates allowed to get out of using the word abortion?

I'm pro-choice on guns and school vouchers, but do I get to go around and say "I'm pro-choice"? Nope. I have to explain that I'm pro-concealed weapons and pro-gun, as well as pro-school vouchers. Otherwise, people assume I'm in favor of abortion rights.

Again, people can be pro-choice on a lot of things. Abortion isn't the only issue. If I can't call myself pro-choice and be understood as a gun rights advocate or a school vouchers advocate, then they shouldn't be able to be pro-choice and be understood as a supporter of abortion. They should have to name their issue as well.
 
shrimp

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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
Left wingers, libamorals, and Demoncrats don't apply the constitution to unborn humans. Oops, what we call unborn humans are "blobs of tissue", "products of conception", "fetuses", and "parasites" to them...unless the unborn is wanted. Then the unborn is human.


If recognizing the humanity of our unborn children makes me an extremist to some people then so be it that is their opinion. It seems to me that twisting and tearing apart a human is about as extreme as it gets...

declaring that someone isn't human because they rely on their MOTHER for everything Well, I guess if you need to be in another person's body to survive, you're not human.
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In all seriousness, it is difficult to show people the truth when they don't want to see it.
 
shrimp

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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
Supposed to be an image there?
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Yeah sorry. For some reason my internet doesn't like CC or FB live. I'm not sure if it's my internet or my computer. Pretty sure it's my internet.
 
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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
Supposed to be an image there?
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shrimp said:
Yeah sorry. For some reason my internet doesn't like CC or FB live. I'm not sure if it's my internet or my computer. Pretty sure it's my internet.
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I got a pic of a Simpsons character, perhaps? With a comment about sarcasm, is that right? Anyway, thats what is there, dont know if thats what you intended, and not sure why its not there for you guys.
 
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