Woman Pastor Explains Her Abortion

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Dude653

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She did what she had to do
I'm sure it was quite an ordeal for her
 

PennEd

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She is trying to compensate for the guilt she has.

She stated the Drs. said that the baby would die either right after birth or before and would have a few short breaths of life.
So her solution was to not even give the baby the few short breaths of life and to instead give it pain and death herself? This article outraged me that she was outraged that people would be against late term abortion.
 

Dude653

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If the baby is going to die anyway and there is a risk of the mother's life, why risk it?.. don't judge someone until you been in that person's situation.... and I might add that this is why people don't like Christians
 

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This isn't a cut and dry issue, her situation isn't anyhow. I've never had an abortion, I've never been told having this baby may risk your life. What do you do when you have 2 other children to take care of? If this was me it would be so hard, gut wrenching actually. I can't judge her and I won't. I lost two children by miscarriage and although that wasn't a choice it was painful and I grieved for those babies. I'm done having kid's but I thank God I was never put into her position.
 

Dude653

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This isn't a cut and dry issue, her situation isn't anyhow. I've never had an abortion, I've never been told having this baby may risk your life. What do you do when you have 2 other children to take care of? If this was me it would be so hard, gut wrenching actually. I can't judge her and I won't. I lost two children by miscarriage and although that wasn't a choice it was painful and I grieved for those babies. I'm done having kid's but I thank God I was never put into her position.
Exactly.... this is why I don't like religion because it's more about judgment and hatred then it is love and kindness. If people can't have empathy for this lady then they really need to read their Bible more closely
 

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There is always a danger in pregnancy. Her overriding issue wasn't the danger to her it was the child was severely disabled and likely to die at birth. We absolutely can judge murder to be wrong. The only question to be asked in this debate is if the baby is a human being. Nobody is guaranteed a breath in life, or what the quality of that life will be. My sister had twin girls. One died at 8 months in the womb. She was told the death of the one would likely result in severe devepmental problems for the other. My sister didn't even consider the possibility of destroying her daughter.
Today, my niece is a very healthy, happy 25 year old, that has offered the world so much.
The Lord decides life and death and what the value of a person is. If you believe an unborn baby is a human being, how can you ever be for giving someone the right to kill her?

I want to be perfectly clear here that although I'm judging her actions as wrong, being a horrible sinner myself, I in no way judge her Position in Christ. That is for God alone.
But how ridiculous to say we can't judge behavior as being wrong.
 

Dude653

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There is always a danger in pregnancy. Her overriding issue wasn't the danger to her it was the child was severely disabled and likely to die at birth. We absolutely can judge murder to be wrong. The only question to be asked in this debate is if the baby is a human being. Nobody is guaranteed a breath in life, or what the quality of that life will be. My sister had twin girls. One died at 8 months in the womb. She was told the death of the one would likely result in severe devepmental problems for the other. My sister didn't even consider the possibility of destroying her daughter.
Today, my niece is a very healthy, happy 25 year old, that has offered the world so much.
The Lord decides life and death and what the value of a person is. If you believe an unborn baby is a human being, how can you ever be for giving someone the right to kill her?

I want to be perfectly clear here that although I'm judging her actions as wrong, being a horrible sinner myself, I in no way judge her Position in Christ. That is for God alone.
But how ridiculous to say we can't judge behavior as being wrong.
My issue is that you seem to care more about judging her actions than to show any type of it love or empathy for what she went through. I'm sure it was hard for her.
 
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My issue is that you seem to care more about judging her actions than to show any type of it love or empathy for what she went through. I'm sure it was hard for her.

Says the guy who just yesterday says he wants to bathe in peoples tears.
 

PennEd

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My issue is that you seem to care more about judging her actions than to show any type of it love or empathy for what she went through. I'm sure it was hard for her.
Well, I'm not terribly concerned with what you issue is. Of course I love this woman, and wish that every baby would be THE most happy, healthy baby ever. What does that have to do with her deciding to destroy her daughter?
I just heard the testimony, at a banquet for an abortion counseling Christian organization, from a woman who underwent an abortion, who went YEARS filled with guilt. She couldn't get over how loving, and non judgemental the organization was toward her. But this woman did not try to assuage her guilt by becoming militant about abortion.And she fully knew the organization was totally and completely against abortion.

She now spends her time writing a blog about it and counseling women both pre and post abortion. In some cases the Lord has used her to save babies.
 

Dude653

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Says the guy who just yesterday says he wants to bathe in peoples tears.
This is because the majority of trumper's are hate-mongering bigots... but that's another topic
 
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She describes her decision as "gut wrenching -- deep, deep pain".

Yet liberals champion abortion; its their holy grail.

This "pastor" is a Lactacyd cleansing product. (look it up)
 
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If the baby is going to die anyway and there is a risk of the mother's life, why risk it?..
Thank God that Jesus didn't punk out like this "pastor" did. Jesus could have called in legions of angels and not have faced the cross, but He respects the sanctity of life.
 
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She describes her decision as "gut wrenching -- deep, deep pain".

Yet liberals champion abortion; its their holy grail.

This "pastor" is a Lactacyd cleansing product. (look it up)
Everybody not opposed to abortion regardless of how the baby was conceived is pro abortion, even conservatives thinking they are pro life.
 
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This isn't a cut and dry issue, her situation isn't anyhow. I've never had an abortion, I've never been told having this baby may risk your life. What do you do when you have 2 other children to take care of? If this was me it would be so hard, gut wrenching actually. I can't judge her and I won't. I lost two children by miscarriage and although that wasn't a choice it was painful and I grieved for those babies. I'm done having kid's but I thank God I was never put into her position.
With the utmost respect, my wonderful sister, this pastor is a political hack; a typical liberal, aka, wolf in sheep's clothing, standing behind the pulpit preaching her liberal mantra which happens to be contrary to the Word of God. If pastors can't be beacons of light for the world to see then no wonder societies are doomed. Thank God we live by God's grace in Jesus Christ.
 

Dude653

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She describes her decision as "gut wrenching -- deep, deep pain".

Yet liberals champion abortion; its their holy grail.

This "pastor" is a Lactacyd cleansing product. (look it up)
No one is championing anything. You're just spreading your alt right propaganda. Late-term abortions are actually extremely rare and only in the most extreme circumstances such as the one we're discussing currently. this lady had to make a very difficult decision and I'm sure it will haunt her for the rest of her life. But yet your immediate go to reaction is a cast stones at her... this is why I hate religion.
 
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This is because the majority of trumper's are hate-mongering bigots... but that's another topic
I see. You hold the keys as to who is human and who is not.
 
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Exactly.... this is why I don't like religion because it's more about judgment and hatred then it is love and kindness. If people can't have empathy for this lady then they really need to read their Bible more closely
Where's her faith? She's a representative of Jesus Christ and He teaches us that according to our faith let things be done. She took the words of a doctor over Jesus. I know people who were told to abort, abort, abort because their unborn child was going to die, but the parents' faith in Jesus gave them peace in having their children, and what do you know, years later the children are happy and healthy. Faith! Its what's for dinner.
 
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Shaking my head and walking away.....