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    Default TRUMP ROCKS! RUSSIA TALKS! HILLARY WALKS! BUT, NO "SESSIONS" FOR SEN. SESSIONS!

    As a moderate conservative, I enthusiastically support President elect Mr. Trump, and the new tone from Russia proves he is the right person for the job.

    CEO Trump worked very hard to get this job, and he has earned the respect of even many liberals. He is the president now, and the Bible says to honor authorities of state power. But, I strongly believe, and I believe he may be being advised the same thing, that Senator Sessions from Alabama is not a viable option for Attorney General and could threaten Mr. Trump's administration. Sessions will appear to the public to represent the past "good 'ol boys club," and especially being from the south, and to represent the failed anti-drug obsession of the 1980's that has proven to be not only costly, punishes minoritities, but has also proven to be not only ineffective, but to increase the danger to society, especially during a racially sensitive period in American history.

    I believe this would be a serious mistake to go backwards at this time, since it would not be "Back to the Future," but, just back to one of the worst administrative failures of the Republican party, all due respect to Ronald Reagan, and, "some people choose to live on the street." He may have been right, but, they never chose 20 years in prison for minor drug crimes.

    Justice reform is a new, powerful bipartisan storm sweeping America, and Mr. Trump should take this into consideration, that the appointment of Sen. Sessions could not only destroy his presidency, but, America as well.

    This is not a good time, Mr. President, for a "white dude from Alabama," to be in charge of justice in America. Seriously. Think Gov. Wallace here. It's a bad idea.
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    Default Re: TRUMP ROCKS! RUSSIA TALKS! HILLARY WALKS! BUT, NO "SESSIONS" FOR SEN. SESSION

    Realistically, I doubt Jeff Sessions is going to take an excessively hard line on drugs, especially when it comes to cannabis and petty possession. Regardless of his personal feelings, the political climate (on both sides of the aisle, mind you) regarding drugs and criminal justice has changed dramatically in recent years, and I'm sure he knows it.

    A draconian crackdown on drug possession would destroy the reputation of Mr. Sessions, and it would reflect poorly on the Trump administration as whole.

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    It's not the Senator's positions, it's the State he is from, Alabama, and the racial history, and the new bi-partisan support for justice reform. He has stated that he supports the old, failed, "just say no!" regime that imprisoned countless minorities, many of whom had/have no access to legal help because of a justice system that favors those who can afford legal help, and/or who may have an education to fight against unjust laws and a few corrupt prosecutors who can be like vicious wolves, caring nothing about justice or the rule of law, ethics, or minorities, only about who they can "devour," to justify their incomes. The majority of state and federal prosecutors are ethical and honorable, of course, and, honor the rule of law themselves.

    Police Chief, Leonard Companello of Glaucester, Massachusetts,(Movie, "Perfect Storm") is an example of the new bipartisan efforts to create an equal, honest, and ethical justice system for those whose lives are ravaged by addictions. Chief Companello, got to know the addicts personally and their families in his district and realized, as do many police precincts in America, that arresting addicts for addictions amounts to "cruel and unusual punishment," and many of them die in jail without de-tox facilities or medical attention. Most officers don't like arresting these poor people who are suffering, but they are required to, and many times there is no other place for them to go. This "treatment over incarceration," approach is the right approach to the heroin epidemic. Chief Companello speaks across the nation regarding this issue, and represents the realities of life on the street, and unfortunately, he has had to give the eulogies for some of these people for whom help came too late. It's not because of his department, however, which has inspired many departments across the country to adopt his approach to drug offenses related to addiction. This would also free officers to go after dealers and violent offenders who have no regard for the law.

    Sen. Sessions should NOT accept this position in the interest of national peace.

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    Actually, there is no need for a "draconian crackdown." All that needs to be done is for SOMEONE in the Justice Department, and/or Administration requiring Federal Officers TO ENFORCE the Laws that currently exist on the Books. If one reads the Constitution, this IS A REQUIREMENT for the President, and many Federal Officials. Obama and the Liberals have intentionally ignored said Laws because of their bias, and to maintain political and monetary support from the segment of Society that dreams of the Legalization of ALL drugs currently banned by Federal Law.

    Sessions would be in no danger of ruining his reputation, for those who support this concept of actually enforcing the Law will still support him, and those who want legalization to become the "norm" have never supported him. One can not lose the respect of people who never respected them in the first place.

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    Realistically, I doubt Jeff Sessions is going to take an excessively hard line on drugs, especially when it comes to cannabis and petty possession. Regardless of his personal feelings, the political climate (on both sides of the aisle, mind you) regarding drugs and criminal justice has changed dramatically in recent years, and I'm sure he knows it.

    A draconian crackdown on drug possession would destroy the reputation of Mr. Sessions, and it would reflect poorly on the Trump administration as whole.
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    Hmm, I'm guessing you are a "long time resident" of the State of Alabama? As you seem to be an expert on the subject.

    The current FEDERAL Laws are what is being discussed, not State Laws...........FEDERAL LAWS (which some liberals supported when enacted) are what any Attorney General is sworn to uphold and enforce.

    Playing the "race card" is just silly........and the tired old argument of liberals for just about anything/any issue.


    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldtheNews View Post
    It's not the Senator's positions, it's the State he is from, Alabama, and the racial history, and the new bi-partisan support for justice reform. He has stated that he supports the old, failed, "just say no!" regime that imprisoned countless minorities, many of whom had/have no access to legal help because of a justice system that favors those who can afford legal help, and/or who may have an education to fight against unjust laws and a few corrupt prosecutors who can be like vicious wolves, caring nothing about justice or the rule of law, ethics, or minorities, only about who they can "devour," to justify their incomes. The majority of state and federal prosecutors are ethical and honorable, of course, and, honor the rule of law themselves. The below comment of yours makes no sense whatsoever, and I challenge you to provide any credible evidence as to its validity. IF they cared nothing about justice, or the rule of law, THEY WOULD be doing what the liberals are doing........IGNORING THE RULE OF LAW and NOT providing JUSTICE to the victims of those who abuse illegal drugs. People who believe pot smoking is a victimless crime need to do some research on the subject before coming to such inane conclusions as this one below.

    I am not a great fan of Sessions, but I do expect people to truthfully criticize him, not just blow a bunch of smoke.... (pun intended)


    a few corrupt prosecutors who can be like vicious wolves, caring nothing about justice or the rule of law, ethics, or minorities,




    Sen. Sessions should NOT accept this position in the interest of national peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_rehbein View Post
    Obama and the Liberals have intentionally ignored said Laws because of their bias, and to maintain political and monetary support from the segment of Society that dreams of the Legalization of ALL drugs currently banned by Federal Law.
    Please be more careful, p_rehbein, about not scrambling my quotes, as you did with your next post. That's against the law here.

    This is the correct quote:

    It's not the Senator's positions, it's the State he is from, Alabama, and the racial history, and the new bi-partisan support for justice reform. He has stated that he supports the old, failed, "just say no!" regime that imprisoned countless minorities, many of whom had/have no access to legal help because of a justice system that favors those who can afford legal help, and/or who may have an education to fight against unjust laws and a few corrupt prosecutors who can be like vicious wolves, caring nothing about justice or the rule of law, ethics, or minorities, only about who they can "devour," to justify their incomes. The majority of state and federal prosecutors are ethical and honorable, of course, and, honor the rule of law themselves.

    Police Chief, Leonard Companello of Glaucester, Massachusetts,(Movie, "Perfect Storm") is an example of the new bipartisan efforts to create an equal, honest, and ethical justice system for those whose lives are ravaged by addictions. Chief Companello, got to know the addicts personally and their families in his district and realized, as do many police precincts in America, that arresting addicts for addictions amounts to "cruel and unusual punishment," and many of them die in jail without de-tox facilities or medical attention. Most officers don't like arresting these poor people who are suffering, but they are required to, and many times there is no other place for them to go. This "treatment over incarceration," approach is the right approach to the heroin epidemic. Chief Companello speaks across the nation regarding this issue, and represents the realities of life on the street, and unfortunately, he has had to give the eulogies for some of these people for whom help came too late. It's not because of his department, however, which has inspired many departments across the country to adopt his approach to drug offenses related to addiction. This would also free officers to go after dealers and violent offenders who have no regard for the law.

    Sen. Sessions should NOT accept this position in the interest of national peace.

    I remember discussions in college about legalizing most drugs. I think that would be a great discussion here. Many conservatives and liberals agree with Chief Companello that the war on drugs can not be won using current strategies. As a moderate conservative, I support radical justice reform, and this has a national consensus and bi-partisan support. The FBI director said recently, "only people who have criminal intentions should be in jail." I believe there is a case in California regarding the incarceration of addicts, who have lost physiological control over their behavior to use drugs, as amounting to "cruel and unusual punishment," which is a violation of the 8th Amendment. It's not rocket science: Laws that don't work, increase danger to society and officers who must enforce them, are not cost-effective, and that amount to archaic "punishment for punishment's sake," and are not in keeping with the modern values of a civilized society, and pose an extreme danger to young people, first offenders, and those who may be innocent, must be abandoned. In fact, it is the duty of society to ensure that laws reflect reality and a consensus and don't discriminate against minorities.

    Concentration camps do not reform people, they obliterate them as human beings, and are strategically designed to do this, and return them to a pre-civilization condition, which, according to many psychologists, leaves many people "socially dead," and, hopelessly institutionalized and incapable of returning to life in society.

    That's what Nazi's do; The Taliban; And crazed Islamics.
    Not the "land of the free, and the home of the brave."

    The core message of the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament, is about deliverance from bondage and freedom, spiritual and social, that leads to eternal freedom in Christ. This is why He came-- to set the prisoners of the earth free, which is all of humanity. \

    Just look at Psalm 102:19-20:

    "Tell them the LORD looked down from His heavenly sanctuary. He looked to the earth from heaven to hear the groans of the prisoners, to release those condemned to die."

    Psalm 102 also talks about the suffering of humanity (102: 1-2; 4-5; 7-9;--NLT) :
    "LORD, hear my prayer! Listen to my plea! Don't turn away from me in my time of distress...
    My heart is sick, withered like grass, and I have lost my appetite...

    Psalm 102 also has tones of the Return of Christ:
    "You will arise and have mercy on Jerusalem--and now is the time to pity her, now is the time you promised to help...(102:13-NLT).
    "And the nations will tremble before the LORD. The kings of the earth will tremble before His glory. For the LORD will rebuild Jerusalem." (102:15-16; NLT)

    He will appear in His glory.

    He will listen to the prayers of the destitute. He will not reject their pleas."
    I lie awake, lonely as a solitary bird on the roof. My enemies taunt me day after day. They mock and curse me. I eat ashes instead of my food. My tears run down into my drink..."

    In fact, Psalms 96 and 98 refer directly to this:

    "For the LORD is coming to judge the earth. He will judge the world with justice, and the nations with fairness." (Psalm 98:9--NLT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldtheNews View Post
    Please be more careful, p_rehbein, about not scrambling my quotes, as you did with your next post. That's against the law here.
    I'm trying to figure out why you have taken issue with p_rehbein's post since he was NOT responding to a post of yours.

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    Why are people biased against Alabama? I don't support Trump, but I support him appointing Jeff Sessions. Roll Tide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    I'm trying to figure out why you have taken issue with p_rehbein's post since he was NOT responding to a post of yours.
    he scrambled my post somehow, and made it appear that I stated things I did not, mainly the last half of his opinion was posted together in my italics quote, so that both opinions ran together.

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    Why are people biased against Alabama? I don't support Trump, but I support him appointing Jeff Sessions. Roll Tide!
    It's not rocket science is it? You are only 32. Maybe you don't remember the meltdown in Alabama with Gov. Wallace in the 60's? Hiring a white politician from the Southern states, no matter his qualifications, especially if he supports the failed, dead, extinct, "get tough on drugs," blind, lumbering drunken racist dinosaur, stumbling into the tar pits, gobbling up scarce funds, and stomping on suffering minorities-- that dinosaur. It can not be raised from the tar-pits. It can not fly. It is not "Pete's" imaginary dragon. If an antiquated, white politician from the south is appointed as AG, the nation could unravel into riots, chaos and anarchy, especially in the prisons, and they will have to call in the National Guard.

    This is not a good time for Maverick air-combat decisions, when it comes to an Attorney General during an EXTREMELY sensitive period of race-relations in America on several socio-economic/cultural history levels:

    "there's no time to think up there; if you think, you're dead." That's a heck of a gamble with a nation of a half-billion citizens. "JUST SAY NO!!" Mr. President, please, to Senator Sessions of Alabama. America does not need any more prison wardens in charge of the justice system. Think, "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION," here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldtheNews View Post
    It's not rocket science is it? You are only 32. Maybe you don't remember the meltdown in Alabama with Gov. Wallace in the 60's? Hiring a white politician from the Southern states, no matter his qualifications, especially if he supports the failed, dead, extinct, "get tough on drugs," blind, lumbering drunken racist dinosaur, stumbling into the tar pits, gobbling up scarce funds, and stomping on suffering minorities-- that dinosaur. It can not be raised from the tar-pits. It can not fly. It is not "Pete's" imaginary dragon. If an antiquated, white politician from the south is appointed as AG, the nation could unravel into riots, chaos and anarchy, especially in the prisons, and they will have to call in the National Guard.

    This is not a good time for Maverick air-combat decisions, when it comes to an Attorney General during an EXTREMELY sensitive period of race-relations in America on several socio-economic/cultural history levels:

    "there's no time to think up there; if you think, you're dead." That's a heck of a gamble with a nation of a half-billion citizens. "JUST SAY NO!!" Mr. President, please, to Senator Sessions of Alabama. America does not need any more prison wardens in charge of the justice system. Think, "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION," here.
    What a condescending post. Using your logic then anyone from Alaska must sit on icebergs and eat whale blubber. I think you froze your brain by sitting on too many icebergs.

    If Sen Sessions will bring integrity to the AG's office I'm all for him. Enforce the law equally and without prejudice is all we should expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldtheNews View Post
    It's not rocket science is it? You are only 32. Maybe you don't remember the meltdown in Alabama with Gov. Wallace in the 60's? Hiring a white politician from the Southern states, no matter his qualifications, especially if he supports the failed, dead, extinct, "get tough on drugs," blind, lumbering drunken racist dinosaur, stumbling into the tar pits, gobbling up scarce funds, and stomping on suffering minorities-- that dinosaur. It can not be raised from the tar-pits. It can not fly. It is not "Pete's" imaginary dragon. If an antiquated, white politician from the south is appointed as AG, the nation could unravel into riots, chaos and anarchy, especially in the prisons, and they will have to call in the National Guard.

    This is not a good time for Maverick air-combat decisions, when it comes to an Attorney General during an EXTREMELY sensitive period of race-relations in America on several socio-economic/cultural history levels:

    "there's no time to think up there; if you think, you're dead." That's a heck of a gamble with a nation of a half-billion citizens. "JUST SAY NO!!" Mr. President, please, to Senator Sessions of Alabama. America does not need any more prison wardens in charge of the justice system. Think, "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION," here.
    Your reasoning is ludicrous and the post that you wrote is bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tourist View Post
    Your reasoning is ludicrous and the post that you wrote is bizarre.
    Why do I have to translate everything I say? It was the same with Jesus-- He told His disciples to "beware of the "yeast" of the Pharisees." (religious lawyers) They didn't know what He was talking about. He said, "Do you not even understand yet?" He was warning them about the teachings of the Pharisees, such as their compulsion to wash their hands in a ritual, and other things. He said that food that we eat can not defile people, but that evil intentions, hatreds, conspiring, actions, etc...are what defile people. He also said that, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast."

    I also compared the failed anti-drug obsessions of the 1980's, that many people now agree, accomplished nothing. Including Police Chief, Leonard Companello of Gloucaster, Massachusetts, who said last year:
    "THE WAR ON DRUGS IS OVER; WE LOST. THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF THIS."

    It is a war that is impossible to win, at least the way they have been fighting it. It has been a war on addiction, which can not be won, since the very nature of addicting drugs is a physiological war, not a criminal war, or social war. This is something Chief Companello came to understand, when he changed the drug focus to treatment over incarceration.

    I also compared the failed "Just say no," campaign to a dinosaur or dragon-- either extinct or imaginary. Just saying no to an addicting drug like heroin, is delusional and irrational, and throwing addicts into jail to die without medical detox facilities amounts to "cruel and unusual punishment," for which the federal and state authorities responsible for doing so, especially in Alaska, can be help accountable to the Supreme Court, as a clear violation to the 8th Amendment. Crystal.

    The other comparison was to the movie, "Top Gun," a famous air-combat movie from 1986 with the famous line between "Maverick" (Tom Cruise) and "Charlie," a lady aeronautical engineer (Kelly McGillis), when he says, "You can't think up there (aerial combat); If you think-- you're dead." Meaning that there is no time to think, you just have to know how to react instantly, making life and death decisions in less than a second. To which the aeronautical engineer replies: "That's a heck of a gamble with a 25 million(?) dollar airplane, Lieutenant."

    My comparison was that the President-elect has time to think through his decision on the Attorney General, since it's not aerial combat, but, strategic combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldtheNews View Post
    It's not rocket science is it? You are only 32. Maybe you don't remember the meltdown in Alabama with Gov. Wallace in the 60's? Hiring a white politician from the Southern states, no matter his qualifications, especially if he supports the failed, dead, extinct, "get tough on drugs," blind, lumbering drunken racist dinosaur, stumbling into the tar pits, gobbling up scarce funds, and stomping on suffering minorities-- that dinosaur. It can not be raised from the tar-pits. It can not fly. It is not "Pete's" imaginary dragon. If an antiquated, white politician from the south is appointed as AG, the nation could unravel into riots, chaos and anarchy, especially in the prisons, and they will have to call in the National Guard.

    This is not a good time for Maverick air-combat decisions, when it comes to an Attorney General during an EXTREMELY sensitive period of race-relations in America on several socio-economic/cultural history levels:

    "there's no time to think up there; if you think, you're dead." That's a heck of a gamble with a nation of a half-billion citizens. "JUST SAY NO!!" Mr. President, please, to Senator Sessions of Alabama. America does not need any more prison wardens in charge of the justice system. Think, "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION," here.
    So, white politicians from the South are ineligible now?

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    Why are people biased against Alabama? I don't support Trump, but I support him appointing Jeff Sessions. Roll Tide!
    Say it with me . . . President Trump!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jennymae View Post
    So, white politicians from the South are ineligible now?
    Well, it's just not good timing, considering the racial climate in America right now. IT would be a SERIOUS offense to African-American's that could threaten peace in America. Proof of this, and the climate in the South that still exists, is the re-hiring of a director of a government-funded non-profit agency in West Virginia, who made a sickening racist statement about the dignity of Michelle Obama on facebook that has been seen by many people.

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    WHY IS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (DEATH PENALTY) "CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT" AND A VIOLATION OF THE 8TH AMENDMENT?" (USA CONSTITUTION)

    Why is capital punishment "cruel and unusual punishment," something outlawed by the 8th amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America? Because the execution of Jesus of Nazareth in Israel by the Roman state empire and the corrupt, legalistic leaders of Israel at the time, which was the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment," was meant to be the final capital punishment. Why? Because it demonstrated that innocent people can wrongly be put to death. That should be the final argument for the death penalty. And, because all human beings deserve the death penalty as punishment for our sins, whether they are simple or grievous, because all humanity has been equally imprisoned upon the earth, and banished from Heaven as sons and daughters of Adam and Eve. The only way to be reborn as sons and daughters of God's Kingdom is through the one capital punishment of Jesus, the Son of God, which was ordained by God as the only eternal "peace-treaty" with earth's people or the "New Covenant" of Mercy and Grace. This perfectly fulfilled the "Old Covenant," of "eye-for-an-eye," imperfect justice of legalism, which still motivates Islamic justice today, and so-called Godless, secular "justice," in America and other secular Western cultures.

    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN THE ROMAN STATE EMPIRE


    The Roman Empire used the capital punishment of nailing human beings to wooden cross-beams, or "crucifixion," to control God's people, even executing them for minor offenses, or anyone they considered a threat, similar to what oppressive regimes in recent history have done. Condemning people to animal cages, sometimes for what many people would consider lessor offenses, or even being innocent, does not "cleanse them of their sins." Putting them to death, depending on the circumstances, can be the equivalent of making human sacrifices to the idol of state legalism.

    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OF UNBORN CITIZENS

    Putting unborn human beings to death by the same secular state authority, is the equivalent of making human sacrifes to the devil. The state has no right to execute people by default for minor offenses, which is what happened to Sandra Bland in Texas. It happened because of the archaic, arbitrary, and obsolete design of the corrupt, costly and innefective justice system in America that does nothing whatsoever to deter crime. Not one person ever considered the death penalty or even prison before they committed their crimes, or one drug addict from their drugs.

    WAKE UP MILLENIALS! UNCLE SAM WANTS YOU!
    Not only that, for the millenial generation, just losing their iphones for a week or their freedom, amounts to "cruel and unusual punishment." Taking first offenders, and low offenders, especially young people, or drug addicts, or emotionally burdoned adults and women, and throwing them to the wolves in animal cages, is an easy case for law suits because of the emotional devastation that this kind of trauma can cause. Many of these young people are scarred for life, and consistently, they take their own lives within hours or days, when faced by this kind of immoral oppression and psychological avalanche that is no different from Nazi concentration camps, or Taliban/Islamic oppression.

    ECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR MILLENIALS AND MINORITIES WHO DIED IN PRISON
    These people deserve economic justice! Those who try to continue to unjustly imprison America and minorities, will find themselves opposing God Himself, who says: "I have come to announce freedom to those who have been given the death-penalty," (all humanity) (paraphrase of Jesus quoting the prophet Isaiah at Nazareth). And, "God did not send His Son into the world to condemn it, but to save it." (John 3:17; NLT)

    THE WAR ON DRUGS CAN NOT BE WON USING PAST OR PRESENT POLICIES--INCARCERATION INCREASES DANGER TO SOCIETY


    This is why many people rightly believe that the "WAR ON DRUGS IS OVER!! AND WE LOST." One police chief said this and added that "THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF THIS." He understood that for every one drug dealer that is taken out, there are a thousand more still at work, and another thousand waiting in the wings. There's just not enough personnel. The answer is in a radical strategic paradigm-shift. It's not rocket science.



    JESUS: THE FINAL CAPITAL PUNISHMENT

    Conversely, the divine justice of the "New Covenant," which Jesus established, is one where all people who truly repent and turn from their sins, and turn to God, become a part of the free-pardon of the Cross of Christ, who took the death penalty for humanity who want to walk in God's friendship. Even in the Old Testament, the most well-known king, king David, who had God's favor and who Jesus was descended from, once spared the life of a king who had even executed many Jewish priests and their families, causing him to repent in tears, and endorse him as king. He said he still had to face God's justice, but that he refused to execute him. This is the unimaginable justice of a true king--the divine King of Heaven and earth.

    PAUL OF TARSUS: A FORMER MURDERER HELPS ESTABLISH CHRISTIANITY

    The Apostle Paul confirms that the Law of Moses, which has it's roots in religious law, not secular law, can not save or reform anyone since it is based on the fallen concept of legalism or "punishment for punishment's sake" (eye-for-an-eye mentality), who once actively murdured Christians as "enemies of the Jewish state or religion," says in Romans 7:7-

    THE FUTILITY OF THE LAW AND SECULAR LEGALISM: PAUL--ROMANS 7:7-13; NLT)
    "...The law is not sinful, but it was the law that showed me my sin...If there was no law, sin would not have that power. I felt fine when I did not understand wha the law demanded. But when I learned the truth, I realized I had broken the law and was a sinner, doomed to die. So the good law, which was supposed to show me the way of life, instead gave me the death penalty...But still, the law itself is holy and right and good...So we can see how terrible sin really is. It uses God's good comandment for its own evil purposes." (i.e., Capital punishment and excessive imprisonment or sacrificing lives to the idol of secular legalism). (From Romans 7:7-13--NLT)

    WHAT IS THE ANSWER?

    What is the answer? Paul, speaking for Jesus and the law, explains in Romans 8-3--


    "So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death. The Law of Moses could not save us, because of our sinful nature." (Romans 8:1-3)


    Think of where Christianity would be if God had allowed the Israelites and the Romans to imprison or execute the Apostle Paul before he had completed his mission--to highlight the message of the Free-Gift of God's Grace, that can never be earned, because of how amazingly awesome it is! Without Jesus, it would be like an eagle trying to fly into the sun on it's own power...it's just not possible.

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    Realistically, I doubt Jeff Sessions is going to take an excessively hard line on drugs, especially when it comes to cannabis and petty possession. Regardless of his personal feelings, the political climate (on both sides of the aisle, mind you) regarding drugs and criminal justice has changed dramatically in recent years, and I'm sure he knows it.

    A draconian crackdown on drug possession would destroy the reputation of Mr. Sessions, and it would reflect poorly on the Trump administration as whole.
    I'm going to keep this post alive until an Attorney General is selected as much as time allows since I'm attempting to return to work in-spite of medical issues. It's not the Senator's reputation that is the issue, or how policies would reflect on the Trump administration. The issue is that any candidate from the South of European descent being placed in a key justice position, considering the harsh realities of injustices toward minorities, would only cause further division in America. It's just the way America is wired, and considering the power that has mistakenly been given unilaterally to the law as the only source of justice, which was never the intention of the Law, has degraded justice in America into an idol of secular legalism. This is tragic, since this is something usually associated with Old Testament Judaic or Islamic archaic perversions of true justice. In Christian traditional heritage, the Law of Moses was fulfilled by the Jewish Messiah--Jesus of Nazareth in Israel, who carries the true sword of justice and Mercy. As the Apostle James wrote, in Christ, "Mercy triumphs over judgement." I have to go-- I'll be back with the exact quote--

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    Doesn't anyone have any feedback on the Law of Moses as fulfilled in Christ? how about you folks in Britain? Many of our laws in America came from the British Common Laws. I found the following when looking for the quote on "mercy triumphs over judgment," from a website: ligonier(dot)com of Nicholas Batzig, a pastor at New Covenant Presbyterian Church in Virginia in the U.S.---
    What are people's thoughts on modern secular justice in western cultures? Ten Commandments? The Death Penalty? Or this pastor's teaching?


    Pastor Nicholas Batzig: (ligonier(dot)com)--
    “Say therefore to the people of Israel, ‘I am the LORD , and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will deliver you from slavery to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great acts of judgment’” (Ex. 6:6). Jonathan Edwards, in his six-part sermon series “The Wisdom of God Displayed in the Way of Salvation,” made the following astonishing statement:
    The justice of God that required man’s damnation, and seemed inconsistent with his salvation, now as much requires the salvation of those that believe in Christ, as ever before it required their damnation. Salvation is an absolute debt to the believer from God
    (a quote from Jonathan Edwards)
    [*** Herald disagrees with part of this that states that believers can now "demand" salvation because of the New Covenant. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christians can demand anything from God, but, rather having an attitude of a humble, thankful, heart of humble assurance and reverence confirmed by fruits of being born-again in Christ in the New Covenant. What this also means, is that now, as a result of the New Covenant, the LORD can not, and will not condemn anyone who truly turns to Him, because of His perfect justice. When we doubt his Word and honor, it is a form of blaspheming God's Word. When we as Christians do not live the Gospel, it is also a form of dishonor and blasphemy, or lying to God, which, if this persists, knowingly and willingly, with full knowledge and consent, (and not mental illness, addictions, or other things that can effect accountability) to the point of no return, many people feel that can threaten their salvation.] There are many verses that defend this position-- but, it will have to wait till later...


    Pastor Nicholas Batzig goes on to say:
    Many have embraced the idea that God must be merciful to men. Accordingly, He is merciful, so He does not need to be just; or, because He is merciful, He can simply set aside His righteous judgments. After all, James 2:13 says, “mercy triumphs over judgment.” Mercy does triumph over judgment, but not by simply setting it aside; rather, mercy triumphs over judgment because judgment is fully executed and justice finally satisfied at the cross. The justice and mercy of God met together at Calvary (Ps. 85:10–11), securing God’s rich and everlasting mercy for hell-deserving sinners who believe on the Son of God. Mercy triumphs over judgment because mercy comes through judgment...

    Pastor Batzig further says on this website:
    Mercy is not getting what you deserve. Therefore, in His mercy God made a provision for Israel. If an Israelite would, in faith, kill spotless lambs and put their blood on the doorposts of their homes (in accord with God’s instructions), the Lord would pass over each and every home on which He saw the blood. If an Israelite did not put the blood on the doorposts of his house, the Lord would enter that home and execute judgment on the firstborn — both man and beast. The provision was clear: judgment would fall on either the substitute lamb or on the firstborn.


    Judgment fell on God’s firstborn Son at Calvary. In the death of Jesus, the believer underwent the judgment of God. By union with Him, we died when He died (Col. 3:3). In His resurrection, we rose when He rose (v. 1). When He hung on the cross, the justice of God did not pass over Jesus. He was the spotless Lamb who “bore our sins in his body on the tree” (1 Peter 2:24). He was the perfect substitute. The judgment of God fell on Him for the sins of His people. Just as the judgment that God sent on Egypt was the means of Israel’s salvation, the judgment that Christ endured at Calvary was the means of the salvation of sinners.
    Pastor Nicholas Batzig-- (ligonier(dot)com)

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