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renewed_hope

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I saw 5 officer beating the crap out one man
Do you know if this man attacked the cops first? If the answer is yes, the police have full right and authority to use physical means necessary to arrest him

If he didnt attack the cops first, what did you do about it? Because if you did nothing, then you might as well have joined in beating that man.
 

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Do you know if this man attacked the cops first? If the answer is yes, the police have full right and authority to use physical means necessary to arrest him

If he didnt attack the cops first, what did you do about it? Because if you did nothing, then you might as well have joined in beating that man.
Would have been a little difficult for me to do something when I wasn't there
 
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Only GOD really KNOWS ,people hear what they want to hear.
With that logic, there should never be a trial for anything. "Only GOD really KNOWS ,people hear what they want to hear." Evidence doesn't count at all?
 

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You obviously didn't see the whole video... where it shows King being partially subdued, then physically jumping on the police officers... more than once, if I recall.

The beating that was shown every 30 seconds on the MSM was simply the result of King physically attacking the police officers, and getting beat down.... and it very conveniently left out the first part, where he physically attacked the officers.

No, it's not pleasant watching someone get beat with batons, but it's also not pleasant seeing the aftermath of way too many police officers that have been jumped on, had their weapons pulled from their holsters, then shot and killed with their own weapon...... simply because they didn't have the opportunity to beat the perp down to the ground.






Part of the problem is that police falsified much of their report by denying that they hit him in the head (departmental violation) and left him unattended for about an hour when he should have been rushed to the hospital. It is no secret why the people of Los Angeles had to fork over millions for their crimes against him. Had he been guilty, he would have won nothing.
 
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Part of the problem is that police falsified much of their report by denying that they hit him in the head (departmental violation) and left him unattended for about an hour when he should have been rushed to the hospital. It is no secret why the people of Los Angeles had to fork over millions for their crimes against him. Had he been guilty, he would have won nothing.
:)Well said my friend.
 
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Back in college, my roommates and I were driving down the main street and saw something on the side of the road in broad daylight.

There was a car stopped with its door opened. Right next to the car two adults had a teenager lying face down on the sidewalk with one of her arms pulled way up behind her and the man had her wrist twisted. He also had his foot holding her down by stepping on her back.

What should we have done?

We stopped to help her, of course. She looked at us, but didn't say anything. The woman standing whipped out some ID and told us the girl was from Robin's Nest, and they were taking her back.

What would you do at that point?

I know. You still don't have the full story, so you'd have to ask more questions.

Meanwhile, we were students at the nearby college, so we knew what Robin's Nest meant. It was a group home for problem girls. The girl had run away.

Then again, from what I'm getting here, we should have never pulled over in the first place, because "only GOD knows." OR, we could have whipped out our cellphones (if this had been in the days of cellphones) and caught exactly what was going on on camera.

The results? Those employees would have been fired for doing their jobs and DYFS would have had yet-another-story on the news about how horrible Children's Services is in NJ for the audacity of forcing a runaway to go back where she belonged AFTER she shoplifted at the local KMart.

Wootwoot! Got my video on TV and destroyed a few more lives in the process, but... you know. "Only GOD knows."
 
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Part of the problem is that police falsified much of their report by denying that they hit him in the head (departmental violation) and left him unattended for about an hour when he should have been rushed to the hospital. It is no secret why the people of Los Angeles had to fork over millions for their crimes against him. Had he been guilty, he would have won nothing.
"Had he been guilty?" You mean that poor, poor innocent man who spent time in prison after that for robbing someone? (What they were charging him with in the first place.) And then spending time in prison TWICE MORE for doing the same thing?

You truly have a bizarre way to look at the world. This is why I have you on ignore. You remind me of Bill Clinton, Obama, and an old joke. "How do you know when they're lying? When they open their mouths."
 
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Would have been a little difficult for me to do something when I wasn't there
You only saw a portion of a video — as has been explained — , nothing more, but you attempted to make it sound as though you actually saw an incident in person.......... when you only saw a video of what the media wanted you to think you saw.
 
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Part of the problem is that police falsified much of their report by denying that they hit him in the head (departmental violation) and left him unattended for about an hour when he should have been rushed to the hospital. It is no secret why the people of Los Angeles had to fork over millions for their crimes against him. Had he been guilty, he would have won nothing.
Wrong, bug-breath....

The city paid simply to avoid a long, drawn out legal battle. Happens all the time...

Even so, this was not about whether police falsified a report... it's about how they subdued a violent felon when he resisted arrest.
 

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I get it.... as I mentioned in another thread we had a police shooting right here in my hometown in which someone attacked and officer with a knife and the community is still blaming the police. However there are times when the police are in the wrong and I believe this was one of those times
 

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"Had he been guilty?" You mean that poor, poor innocent man who spent time in prison after that for robbing someone? (What they were charging him with in the first place.) And then spending time in prison TWICE MORE for doing the same thing?

You truly have a bizarre way to look at the world. This is why I have you on ignore. You remind me of Bill Clinton, Obama, and an old joke. "How do you know when they're lying? When they open their mouths."





Thank you for showing that you had me on ignore. This is not the first time we have seen this on this forum.

Each crime/charge stands on it own. Jurors in LA saw him as innocent here and found the cops liable. In his time Saul of Tarsus was seen as a mass murderer and terrorist. Later on he was forgiven for his crimes and today he is called St Paul. Read the New Testament and you will see ample proof of that.
 

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Wrong, bug-breath....

The city paid simply to avoid a long, drawn out legal battle. Happens all the time...

Even so, this was not about whether police falsified a report... it's about how they subdued a violent felon when he resisted arrest.




This is how frogs get bug breath:

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The city paid simply to avoid a long, drawn out legal battle


WRONG. Get your facts straight - the city offered him as settlement but he rejected it. The $3.8 MILLION was a jury award as compensation for the police beating:



Jury awards King $3.8 million in civil suit - UPI Archives


quote: " the $3.8 million was three times more than the city had offered to settle the case.''





Right wingers sure have a funny way of viewing things. Luckily, I do NOT ignore their claims so that this way they can learn the truth.
 
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This is how frogs get bug breath:

[video=youtube;nwmr1A3-f-k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmr1A3-f-k[/video]













WRONG. Get your facts straight - the city offered him as settlement but he rejected it. The $3.8 MILLION was a jury award as compensation for the police beating:



Jury awards King $3.8 million in civil suit - UPI Archives


quote: " the $3.8 million was three times more than the city had offered to settle the case.''





Right wingers sure have a funny way of viewing things. Luckily, I do NOT ignore their claims so that this way they can learn the truth.
But at least hornets arent slimy


Ribbit, ribbit :p
 

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Back on topic:





Trump Cabinet will be first in decades without Hispanic member: report





President-elect Donald Trump’s Cabinet appears set to be the first since 1988 without a Hispanic member, according to a new report.
Hispanic groups are displeased that Trump ignored their community when making his final Cabinet-level appointment, The Dallas Morning News said Wednesday.
"We’re extremely worried,” Hector Sanchez, chairman of the National Hispanic Leadership Agenda, an umbrella group of 40 advocacy organizations, told the paper. "This is anti-democratic.”
“Trump has not only been the most anti-Latino, anti-immigrant president in the history of the nation, [but] by not including Latinos in his Cabinet, he is just showing how he plans to govern."The executive director of the nonpartisan National Association of Latino Elected Officials, meanwhile, said Trump’s Cabinet reflects his ignorance of Hispanic leaders.
“The most obvious thing it means to me is that he doesn’t know Latinos,” Arturo Vargas told The Dallas Morning News. "He himself and his team don’t know who the Latino leaders are. What this does is it makes our job as advocates for the Hispanic community infinitely harder."
The Hill reported late Wednesday that Trump will pick former Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue (R) to be Agriculture secretary, according to a source familiar with deliberations over the pick.
Trump’s team is expected to officially tap Perdue Thursday, the day before the president-elect’s inauguration.
Reports emerged last month that Trump’s team considered the Agriculture slot the most likely for a Hispanic Cabinet appointment.
Trump purportedly met with two Hispanic candidates for the role: Elsa Murano, a former Agriculture undersecretary for food safety, and Abel Maldonado, a former California lieutenant governor and the current co-owner of Runway Vineyards.
The Morning News listed former Rep. Henry Bonilla (R-Texas) as another possibility on Wednesday.
Trump’s incoming White House press secretary said the president-elect’s Cabinet choices are based on merit.
“[Trump] has continued to seek out the best and brightest to fill out his Cabinet,” Sean Spicer told the Morning News. "I don’t have any concern about diversity.”
“We have 5,000 positions, and I think you’re going to see a very strong presence of the Hispanic community,” he added, referencing senior administration appointments and White House staff.
During the campaign, Trump angered many with his rhetoric about Mexican immigrants and his proposal to build a wall on the southern border.



Trump Cabinet will be first in decades without Hispanic member: report | TheHill



Trump promised a diversified cabinet but fell short on this pledge. Perhaps he will find someone who fits his ideal profile eventually ....
 

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renewed_hope; said:
But at least hornets arent slimy


Ribbit, ribbit :p







From Google:


Summary of Symbolic Meaning of the Frog

  • Luck.
  • Purity.
  • Rebirth.
  • Renewal.
  • Fertility.
  • Healing.
  • Transitions.
  • Dreaming.






Frogs are good!
 

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From Google:
Summary of Symbolic Meaning of the Frog

  • Luck.
  • Purity.
  • Rebirth.
  • Renewal.
  • Fertility.
  • Healing.
  • Transitions.
  • Dreaming.
Frogs are good!
Heqet (Ḥeqet, Ḥeḳet; also Ḥeqtit, Ḥeḳtit) is an Egyptian
goddess of fertility, identified with Hathor, represented in the form
of a frog. To the Egyptians, the frog was an ancient symbol of fertility,
related to the annual flooding of the Nile. Heqet was originally the
female counterpart of Khnemu, or the wife of Khnemu by whom
she became the mother of Heru-ur.

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Frogs were the second plague that beset the Egyptians when
Pharaoh refused to allow the Hebrews go free with Moses.

Every plague overcame a number of the false idols the Egyptians
worshiped, culminating in the defeat of all their false gods.

This is what the great LORD says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me. If you refuse to let them go, I will plague your whole country with frogs. The Nile will teem with frogs. They will come up into your palace and your bedroom and onto your bed, into the houses of your officials and on your people, and into your ovens and kneading troughs. The frogs will go up on you and your people and all your officials.
— Exodus 8:1–4
 
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With that logic, there should never be a trial for anything. "Only GOD really KNOWS ,people hear what they want to hear." Evidence doesn't count at all?
:)You seem to KNOW a lot about It,was It from what you saw or from what you heard?
 

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Magenta; said:

Frogs were the second plague that beset the Egyptians when
Pharaoh refused to allow the Hebrews go free with Moses.

Every plague overcame a number of the false idols the Egyptians
worshiped, culminating in the defeat of all their false gods.

This is what the great LORD says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me. If you refuse to let them go, I will plague your whole country with frogs. The Nile will teem with frogs. They will come up into your palace and your bedroom and onto your bed, into the houses of your officials and on your people, and into your ovens and kneading troughs. The frogs will go up on you and your people and all your officials.
— Exodus 8:1–4









Hush! Without frogs we would overrun with bugs like hornets:


http://www.savethefrogs.com/why-frogs/


"When we save frogs we are protecting all our wildlife, all our ecosystem, and all humans"!



-- Dr. Kerry Kriger,
 

Magenta

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Hush! Without frogs we would overrun with bugs like hornets:
http://www.savethefrogs.com/why-frogs/
"When we save frogs we are protecting all our wildlife, all our ecosystem, and all humans"!
-- Dr. Kerry Kriger,
Frogs are like a canary in the coal mine. Yikes. All those extra legs!

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