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I do believe that the nation of Israel should be restored. HOWEVER, the land is being defiled by atheism, homosexual activity, the poverty rate is ever growing with many Jews homeless and hungry. THIS is the Holy Land, they MUST honor God in order to have the blessings. This defilement cannot happen in His Special Land.
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My pastor said this morning that Israel is not saved,right now they are lost and living against God. But he got us to read the following verses..
Ez. 36 16 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying: 17 “Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own ways and deeds; to Me their way was like the uncleanness of a woman in her customary impurity. 18 Therefore I poured out My fury on them for the blood they had shed on the land, and for their idols with which they had defiled it. 19 So I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed throughout the countries; I judged them according to their ways and their deeds. 20 When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name—when they said of them, ‘These are the people of the Lord, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ 21 But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went.
22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. 23 And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,” says the Lord God, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
33 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the Lord, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it.”
37 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I will also let the house of Israel inquire of Me to do this for them: I will increase their men like a flock. 38 Like a flock offered as holy sacrifices, like the flock at Jerusalem on its feast days, so shall the ruined cities be filled with flocks of men. Then they shall know that I am the Lord.”’”
I fully support the nation of Israel, and its right to exist. It’s important to remember that not all peoples of the nation are of the Jewish faith. There are many Christian and Messianic Jews who live there too. I don’t base America’s right to exist upon the Christian to Atheist ratio. Therefore, neither do I apply this standard to Israel.
Instead I look to the Bible and history as a guide. First off, the so called “Palestinian” land is a myth. The land of Judea (home of the Jews) was under Roman occupation for decades. This led to several Jewish revolts against the Romans. The last of the Jewish/Roman wars was the Bar Kokhba revolt.
This ended with a Roman victory over the Jewish nation. The persecution, genocide, and forced slavery, forced many Jews to go into hiding or flee the country. The Roman emperor Hadrian wanted to erase any connection with Jews to the land, which is why he then renamed the land from Judea to Syria Palaestina. This was to add further insult as the Jews were arch rivals of the ancient Philistines.
The land was later formally renamed to Palestine by westerners in the British Mandate after WW1. The fact that many of the Jews were forced into hiding or fleeing their homeland after the persecution following the Roman victory over them, by no means gives new ownership rights to those who try to take the land for themselves.
If I have to leave my house because of an earthquake, does this mean that someone else has the right to move in and lay claim on that property themselves? After WWII it was recognized that the Jews needed to have a home, and their ancient homeland was given back to them. There can be arguments made about border lines and such, but the bottom line is that this was the land given to the Jews by God.
The Lord said to Abram: Go out from your land, your relatives, and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you, I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who treat you with contempt, and all the peoples on earth will be blessed through you…Genesis 12:1-3
There are many verses that show Jewish ownership to the land. Just because I identify the land of Israel as Jewish titled, it doesn’t mean that they don’t get overthrown from time to time. We see instances in scripture where the Jews were delivered into the hands of their enemies for a time until they came back to worshipping the one true God again. Judges being a prime example of this.
If one wants to know just what kind of leadership exists under the Palestinian regime, I recommend a book called “Son of Hamas”. It was written by the actual son of the leader of Hamas. I guess you could say that he had a change of heart after seeing the things that he did.
Here’s a link to the last Jewish revolt against the Romans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
As for all the nations who gather against Israel (including the UN), I’d recommend reading Zechariah 12.
Instead I look to the Bible and history as a guide. First off, the so called “Palestinian” land is a myth. The land of Judea (home of the Jews) was under Roman occupation for decades. This led to several Jewish revolts against the Romans. The last of the Jewish/Roman wars was the Bar Kokhba revolt.
This ended with a Roman victory over the Jewish nation. The persecution, genocide, and forced slavery, forced many Jews to go into hiding or flee the country. The Roman emperor Hadrian wanted to erase any connection with Jews to the land, which is why he then renamed the land from Judea to Syria Palaestina. This was to add further insult as the Jews were arch rivals of the ancient Philistines.
The land was later formally renamed to Palestine by westerners in the British Mandate after WW1. The fact that many of the Jews were forced into hiding or fleeing their homeland after the persecution following the Roman victory over them, by no means gives new ownership rights to those who try to take the land for themselves.
If I have to leave my house because of an earthquake, does this mean that someone else has the right to move in and lay claim on that property themselves? After WWII it was recognized that the Jews needed to have a home, and their ancient homeland was given back to them. There can be arguments made about border lines and such, but the bottom line is that this was the land given to the Jews by God.
The Lord said to Abram: Go out from your land, your relatives, and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you, I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who treat you with contempt, and all the peoples on earth will be blessed through you…Genesis 12:1-3
There are many verses that show Jewish ownership to the land. Just because I identify the land of Israel as Jewish titled, it doesn’t mean that they don’t get overthrown from time to time. We see instances in scripture where the Jews were delivered into the hands of their enemies for a time until they came back to worshipping the one true God again. Judges being a prime example of this.
If one wants to know just what kind of leadership exists under the Palestinian regime, I recommend a book called “Son of Hamas”. It was written by the actual son of the leader of Hamas. I guess you could say that he had a change of heart after seeing the things that he did.
Here’s a link to the last Jewish revolt against the Romans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
As for all the nations who gather against Israel (including the UN), I’d recommend reading Zechariah 12.
At the very least, this is all prophecy. We are told the nations will divide Israel, and in the end they will be persecuted by the nations of the anti christ. I believe the end is coming. Not today, not next year, but its closer than we think, I think.
And even Paul wrote that in the end Israel will be saved. Just as we are forgiven for turning away from Him (which we all have), many of the Jews will be too. They may have denied Christ, as they were prophecised to do, as even Christ Himself said during His ministry, but they are not our enemies.
And even Paul wrote that in the end Israel will be saved. Just as we are forgiven for turning away from Him (which we all have), many of the Jews will be too. They may have denied Christ, as they were prophecised to do, as even Christ Himself said during His ministry, but they are not our enemies.
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Just remember, not all of Israel is the true Israel. Only a remnant will be saved from it. Modern Israel has many sinful people living in the Holy Land. Just look at Tel Aviv, the commercial capital of Israel. They have many gay pride parades and all manner of things that are an offense to God. Only a few will be saved, purified by the fire. I do believe Netanyahu is an honorable and Godly man though. God is definetly using him for his purposes, and we are indeed close to the end I believe.
Wild,,,,there is no doubt that many Israelites are not going to make it. One thing about the end times.
God tells us that he will bring together His people, from every nation on earth in the end days.. Right now, there are 188 different countries that are represented in Israel. How many is the grand total of nations (196) That leaves only 8 nations that are not represented....Might be a good time to pack a bag,,the time is near.....
The remnant of Israel are those that will survive the Great Tribulations, as God will feed them in the mountains to the south in Jordan near Petri.
Of course there will be martyred, Raptured and tribultaion Saints that will consist of Israeli who believed in Jesus and His Gospel.
have a great evening.
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