President Trump Swears in his staff at the white house.

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JosephsDreams

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Trump may or may not be a Christian, still he has mentioned God probably more times in the last 3 days then B.O did in 3 years.
In this 11 minute video he sure sounds like he has a Christian mentality.
He talks of serving others. He speaks of doing what is right by the people, and not for himself.

[video=youtube;t7bbOPIliQI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bbOPIliQI[/video]
 

p_rehbein

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For sure, I do not believe Obama was a true believer, but could you provide credible statistics to support your assertion?

Obama made a habit of bringing up God's name quite often, and it made me cringe when he did.........just as it does when Trump does............

Still, I think you are "fudging" just a wee bit with your assertion.............right?
 

JosephsDreams

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For sure, I do not believe Obama was a true believer, but could you provide credible statistics to support your assertion?

Obama made a habit of bringing up God's name quite often, and it made me cringe when he did.........just as it does when Trump does............

Still, I think you are "fudging" just a wee bit with your assertion.............right?

It was a purposeful exaggeration .But if you want me to make a serious estimation, I believe Trump will mention God more times in a year then O would have in 3 years. More importantly, Trump will be sincere and genuine in context when he mentions the Lord.

In part of the swearing in ceremony Trumps staff has to swear to protect the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
I truly believe that by just about any standard, except physical war fare on our soil, Obama failed miserably in that regard. The worst part is, I think he often knew it.
 
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For sure, I do not believe Obama was a true believer, but could you provide credible statistics to support your assertion?

Obama made a habit of bringing up God's name quite often, and it made me cringe when he did.........just as it does when Trump does............

Still, I think you are "fudging" just a wee bit with your assertion.............right?
Yes. We know know you don't like trump. In fact you dislike him so much that you don't like me cuz I supported him. Even I didn't disown my obama or Hillary supporting friends. We just agreed to disagree.
 

Dude653

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He's an alternative Christian
 

Magenta

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Obama made fun of the Bible and always called the Koran "holy" and said there was nothing so beautiful sounding as the Muslim call to prayer, which, by the way, he allowed twenty five minutes a day for in the White House apparently, compared to fifteen seconds a week of Christian prayer Sunday morning. Meanwhile the first few years of his presidency, didn't he pretend to be Christian? That is called taqiya in Islam, where you are allowed/instructed to lie for the cause of the spread of Islam.

[video=youtube;YUbf3purr_E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbf3purr_E[/video]

How many members of the Islamic brotherhood did he have working in the white house? Here are some of them (there were more):

Mazen Asbahi- On August 1 2008, the GMBDW (then known as the GMBDR) ran a post identifying Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi as an adviser to the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) and NAIT as part of the US Muslim Brotherhood and which was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorist trial, as was NAIT board member Jamal Said. The post also listed Mr. Asbahi’s connection to the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). The GMBDW ran a second post on the same day that identified Asbahi’s ties to two further US Muslim Brotherhood organizations- the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding and an Illinois LLC called SA Consulting. At this time the GMBDR was private and the post received very little attention until August 6th when the Wall Street Journal published an article revealing that Mr. Asbahi had resigned from the Obama campaign after the Journal had queried him about his USMB ties. The Journal credited the GMBDR for breaking the story.

Dahlia Mogahed- On April 12 2009, the GMBDW reported that one of the two Muslim members appointed to the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships was Dahlia Mogahed, a protege of John Espositio, perhaps the best known academic supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and with strong ties to Saudi Arabia. Although the report on the appointment was not exclusive to the GMBDW, we were the only publication to note that Ms. Mogahed is the daughter of Elsayed Mogahed, an Egyptian immigrant who is a former engineering scientist at the University of Wisconsin and director of the Islamic Center of Madison (ICM). The website of the ICM links mainly to US Muslim Brotherhood organizations and Souheil Ghannouchi, the President of the Muslim American Society (MAS), was ICM Imam and President for several years. The MAS is part of the US Muslim Brotherhood and closest to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

Huma Abedin– On February 7 2010, the GMBDW reported that that then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had addressed students at the Dar El-Hekma women’s college in Saudi Arabia, known to have been co-founded and patronized by an individual designated as a terrorist by the US as well as by important Saudi bankers and members of the Bin Laden family. As part of that story, we noted that the Vice Dean of institutional advancement at Dar El-Hekma is Saleha M. Abedin who was one of the founders of the College, as well being the mother of Huma Abedin, a Deputy Chief of Staff to Hillary Clinton. We also reported that Saleha Abedin, along with her late husband Syed Z. Abedin, were founders of the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs, a London organization that is known to have been close to the Saudi Muslim World League. We subsequently reported that Saleha Abedin was serving as a board member of the International Islamic Council for Dawa and Relief (IICDR), an umbrella group for 86 Islamic organizations, many of which are associated with the global Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas fundraising, or support for Al Qaeda. We also delved into the ties of Huma Abedin’s brother Hasan Abedin who was an officer of the Oxford Center of Islamic Studies, chaired by Dr. Abdullah Omar Naseef, a Saudi with his own extensive ties to Islamist organizations. A variety of other actors later claimed credit for unearthing the information about Human Abedin’s parents that was first reported by the GMBDW.

Rashad Hussain- On February 14 2010, the GMBDW reported on the US Muslim Brotherhood connections of Rashad Hussain, a White House attorney who was President Obama’s newly appointed envoy to the OIC. Those connections including ties to the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), the Muslim Student Association (MSA), and the Association of Muslim Social Scientists (AMSS). The post also revealed that an annual MSA conference, Mr. Hussein appeared along side the daughter of Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Sami Al-Arian and labeled Al-Arian’s prosecution “politically motivated persecution.” The post further noted that the sentences pertaining to Mr. Hussein statement had been removed from the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) report on the MSA conference but were still available at the Internet Archive. The story was subsequently “appropriated” by another media outlet who only belatedly and partially credited the GMBDW as the original source of the story.

Mohamed Elibiary– On October 30 2010, the GMBDW reported that the Department of Homeland Security had sworn in three new members of the Homeland Security Advisory Council one of whom was Mohamed Elibiary, who we exclusively identified as the President and CEO of the Freedom and Justice Foundation, an organization with ties to the US Muslim Brotherhood and the US Hamas infrastructure. Since that time, Mr. Elibiary has been widely discussed in a variety of venues and described as a “noted Islamist” though he was virtually unknown until the GMBDW highlighted his background.
https://www.globalmbwatch.com/2016/06/14/white-house-appoints-latest-advisor-tied-to-us-muslim-brotherhood-zaki-barzinji-is-grandson-of-us-muslim-brotherhood-founder/
 
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Well regardless of how many times a person mentions God he knows their hearts & motives. Satan is a great deceiver & so are his minions. There are many people Christians even who believe Trump is used by God when he could very well be used by Satan to deceive people.
 

Magenta

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Well regardless of how many times a person mentions God he knows their hearts & motives. Satan is a great deceiver & so are his minions. There are many people Christians even who believe Trump is used by God when he could very well be used by Satan to deceive people.
Even before he was sworn in as the 45th president of the United States of America, Donald Trump was accomplishing positively desirable things that Obalmy said was impossible.
 

p_rehbein

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At least you admit it............but "purposeful exaggerations" are exactly what some here are decrying and condemning the Media for doing.........so, should those here doing that not also decry and condemn you for doing this as well?

Personally, I don't care............as I stated, I do not believe Obama to be a Christian, nor Trump, and I also do not believe Trump is any more sincere when he invokes God's Name than Obama was. God does not distinguish one sinner from the other does He?

Anyway..............it would just be really, really refreshing of folks here would insert much more "TRUTH" in their comments, rather than this other stuff.

It was a purposeful exaggeration .But if you want me to make a serious estimation, I believe Trump will mention God more times in a year then O would have in 3 years. More importantly, Trump will be sincere and genuine in context when he mentions the Lord.

In part of the swearing in ceremony Trumps staff has to swear to protect the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
I truly believe that by just about any standard, except physical war fare on our soil, Obama failed miserably in that regard. The worst part is, I think he often knew it.
 

Adstar

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Trump may or may not be a Christian, still he has mentioned God probably more times in the last 3 days then B.O did in 3 years.
In this 11 minute video he sure sounds like he has a Christian mentality.
He talks of serving others. He speaks of doing what is right by the people, and not for himself.

[video=youtube;t7bbOPIliQI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bbOPIliQI[/video]
Matthew 5: KJV
33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
 
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Matthew 5: KJV
33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But Isay unto you, Swearnot at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
sounds like his yes is a yes and no is a no do far. Better than any politician in recent memory....no wishy washyness to be found as of yet.
 
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Well regardless of how many times a person mentions God he knows their hearts & motives. Satan is a great deceiver & so are his minions. There are many people Christians even who believe Trump is used by God when he could very well be used by Satan to deceive people.
"We will be protected by God," is not a statement made by one of satan's minions.
 

JosephsDreams

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At least you admit it............but "purposeful exaggerations" are exactly what some here are decrying and condemning the Media for doing.........so, should those here doing that not also decry and condemn you for doing this as well?

Personally, I don't care............as I stated, I do not believe Obama to be a Christian, nor Trump, and I also do not believe Trump is any more sincere when he invokes God's Name than Obama was. God does not distinguish one sinner from the other does He?

Anyway..............it would just be really, really refreshing of folks here would insert much more "TRUTH" in their comments, rather than this other stuff.
The difference here is that I stated it as my opinion, and I think it was to obvious that I was exaggerating to even mention I was..
 

p_rehbein

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You may have intended it to be your opinion only, but, you did not state such in your OP. And, here on CC, one can not take it for granted that a person is "intentionally exaggerating" for whatever reason. There have been several instances when such "statistics" have been posted here, and expected to be believed as FACTUAL.

When I state something as my opinion, I state ............ in my opinion ......... that makes it pretty clear to all reading my comment........... what is obvious for one is not so for another........ESPECIALLY here on CC. Too many Trump supporters have dealt in "overstatements" for the last two years, and demanded their statements be accepted as truth. As well, too many Clinton supporters have done the same.

"In my opinion" is a valuable statement, and removes doubt and misunderstanding.

I have read your OP 5 times now, and I do not see any "obvious reason" to believe you were intentionally exaggerating. Why would you? Just be truthful.............that is damning enough where Obama is concerned.

The difference here is that I stated it as my opinion, and I think it was to obvious that I was exaggerating to even mention I was..
 

JosephsDreams

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If it wasn't obvious to you, or others, that it was exaggeration...
Some things don't need to be said.