Trump Gets an A+

[TurtleLife]

The best explanation I’ve heard (on Fox news) regarding TPP, in general, is that we can negotiate one on one with countries rather than accepting policies forced on the U.S.A. by the trading group if we are a member of it. Negotiate away, I say!

 

[p_rehbein]

Trump continues to act on things. The Keystone Pipeline and the Dakota Access (?) Pipeline. I agree with the Keystone, and his making it possible for them to move ahead, however, truth told, they may decide not to do so. Because of the current price of oil, it may not be a viable investment for them anymore. Will have to wait and see.

I am not 100% certain about the Dakota Access..........IF this is the one that cuts through the heart of Native American Lands (and I believe some of that is Sacred Lands for them), then I tend to not agree with it. However, Trump ONLY signed an Order saying that they would "revisit" the issue to determine the Environmental Impact of such a pipeline, so it is far, far from being a reality. Lots of time to consider this one.

Now, I have to be completely honest. President Trump has once again revealed his Achilles Heel, that being this assertion about the Popular Vote. Goodness. Does voter fraud exist? Yes. Did some folks vote illegally last election? Yes. However, there is zero evidence that two to three million people voted illegally in November of 2016, thus allowing Clinton to win the Popular Vote. Every State Attorney General is charged with Validating the Vote Totals for their State. MANY of these are Republicans. Do people HONESTLY believe a Republican Attorney General is going to Validate mass voter fraud which benefitted Clinton? I urge the President to curb his "bruised ego" and I urge the people around him to quietly advise him to stop beating this drum. This kind of thing will cause him problems with so very many different people, and Congress being first and foremost.

Mr. President. YOU WON! You are the PRESIDENT! GET OVER IT! Seriously, it's like he can't believe he won and continues to justify that he did. That worries me greatly. A healthy ego is a good thing for a Leader, however, an unhealthy and inflated ego can be a dangerous thing.

He has been doing so well...............and to now bring all this junk back up simply makes no sense whatsoever. This is the kind of dual personality actions that worried me about him during the Campaign(s)..........

Thus far, his decisions on Executive Orders has been pretty darn good...........why in the heck drag this stuff back up? Makes no sense whatsoever...........

 

[Sirk]

Trump continues to act on things. The Keystone Pipeline and the Dakota Access (?) Pipeline. I agree with the Keystone, and his making it possible for them to move ahead, however, truth told, they may decide not to do so. Because of the current price of oil, it may not be a viable investment for them anymore. Will have to wait and see.

I am not 100% certain about the Dakota Access..........IF this is the one that cuts through the heart of Native American Lands (and I believe some of that is Sacred Lands for them), then I tend to not agree with it. However, Trump ONLY signed an Order saying that they would "revisit" the issue to determine the Environmental Impact of such a pipeline, so it is far, far from being a reality. Lots of time to consider this one.

Now, I have to be completely honest. President Trump has once again revealed his Achilles Heel, that being this assertion about the Popular Vote. Goodness. Does voter fraud exist? Yes. Did some folks vote illegally last election? Yes. However, there is zero evidence that two to three million people voted illegally in November of 2016, thus allowing Clinton to win the Popular Vote. Every State Attorney General is charged with Validating the Vote Totals for their State. MANY of these are Republicans. Do people HONESTLY believe a Republican Attorney General is going to Validate mass voter fraud which benefitted Clinton? I urge the President to curb his "bruised ego" and I urge the people around him to quietly advise him to stop beating this drum. This kind of thing will cause him problems with so very many different people, and Congress being first and foremost.

Mr. President. YOU WON! You are the PRESIDENT! GET OVER IT! Seriously, it's like he can't believe he won and continues to justify that he did. That worries me greatly. A healthy ego is a good thing for a Leader, however, an unhealthy and inflated ego can be a dangerous thing.

He has been doing so well...............and to now bring all this junk back up simply makes no sense whatsoever. This is the kind of dual personality actions that worried me about him during the Campaign(s)..........

Thus far, his decisions on Executive Orders has been pretty darn good...........why in the heck drag this stuff back up? Makes no sense whatsoever...........

there is a war going on for people's hearts and minds. He is exposing the lies and manipulations of the msm and their globalist masters. You believe in the Bible right? Doesn't the Bible talk about exposing evil to the light? Or do you just use the Bible to fit your world view and preconceived notions?

 

[maxwel]

Trump continues to act on things. The Keystone Pipeline and the Dakota Access (?) Pipeline. I agree with the Keystone, and his making it possible for them to move ahead, however, truth told, they may decide not to do so. Because of the current price of oil, it may not be a viable investment for them anymore. Will have to wait and see.

I am not 100% certain about the Dakota Access..........IF this is the one that cuts through the heart of Native American Lands (and I believe some of that is Sacred Lands for them), then I tend to not agree with it. However, Trump ONLY signed an Order saying that they would "revisit" the issue to determine the Environmental Impact of such a pipeline, so it is far, far from being a reality. Lots of time to consider this one.

Now, I have to be completely honest. President Trump has once again revealed his Achilles Heel, that being this assertion about the Popular Vote. Goodness. Does voter fraud exist? Yes. Did some folks vote illegally last election? Yes. However, there is zero evidence that two to three million people voted illegally in November of 2016, thus allowing Clinton to win the Popular Vote. Every State Attorney General is charged with Validating the Vote Totals for their State. MANY of these are Republicans. Do people HONESTLY believe a Republican Attorney General is going to Validate mass voter fraud which benefitted Clinton? I urge the President to curb his "bruised ego" and I urge the people around him to quietly advise him to stop beating this drum. This kind of thing will cause him problems with so very many different people, and Congress being first and foremost.

Mr. President. YOU WON! You are the PRESIDENT! GET OVER IT! Seriously, it's like he can't believe he won and continues to justify that he did. That worries me greatly. A healthy ego is a good thing for a Leader, however, an unhealthy and inflated ego can be a dangerous thing.

He has been doing so well...............and to now bring all this junk back up simply makes no sense whatsoever. This is the kind of dual personality actions that worried me about him during the Campaign(s)..........

Thus far, his decisions on Executive Orders has been pretty darn good...........why in the heck drag this stuff back up? Makes no sense whatsoever...........

1. There is statistical evidence, right from government websites, indicating there is a STRONG PROBABILITY that 2-3 Million people voted illegally.

This isn't something I just heard somewhere.
I dug it out myself in about 15 minutes, right from govt websites.
If everyone has a huge problem with this whole concept, I can post some of my notes sometime.

This is NOT PROOF.... but it is statistical evidence showing a very strong probability.
You would of course use the probability to warrant further investigation,
and then research further for specific evidences.


2. There were undercover "stings" by independent journalists, with hidden cameras, showing top Democratic operatives, ON VIDEO, openly DISCUSSING all the ways they commit mass voter fraud.

This was not a joke or a ruse.
This was taken seriously enough by the Democratic leadership that at least one of these operatives was immediately fired.

Another top Democrat (the NYC Democratic Election Commissioner) who talked about voter fraud on hidden camera, was in so much trouble that a few days later he publicly DENIED everything he had clearly admitted on the hidden camera video.

In these hidden camera interviews, Democratic leaders ADMITTED that voter fraud was common, wide scale, and systemic in the DNC.


3. There is at least one activist group that has begun filing lawsuits about voter fraud.




From statistical evidence (and what can be inferred from that) and from the undercover video recordings, I think it is PERFECTLY RATIONAL to consider 2-3 million people probably voted illegally.

However, acquiring specific and legal evidence for each of those illegal votes... that's a different matter.

 

[Sirk]

1. There is statistical evidence, right from government websites, indicating there is a STRONG PROBABILITY that 2-3 Million people voted illegally.

This isn't something I just heard somewhere.
I dug it out myself in about 15 minutes, right from govt websites.
If everyone has a huge problem with this whole concept, I can post some of my notes sometime.

This is NOT PROOF.... but it is statistical evidence showing a very strong probability.
You would of course use the probability to warrant further investigation,
and then research further for specific evidences.


2. There were undercover "stings" by independent journalists, with hidden cameras, showing top Democratic operatives, ON VIDEO, openly DISCUSSING all the ways they commit mass voter fraud.

This was not a joke or a ruse.
This was taken seriously enough by the Democratic leadership that at least one of these operatives was immediately fired.

Another top Democrat (the NYC Democratic Election Commissioner) who talked about voter fraud on hidden camera, was in so much trouble that a few days later he publicly DENIED everything he had clearly admitted on the hidden camera video.

In these hidden camera interviews, Democratic leaders ADMITTED that voter fraud was common, wide scale, and systemic in the DNC.


3. There is at least one activist group that has begun filing lawsuits about voter fraud.




From statistical evidence (and what can be inferred from that) and from the undercover video recordings, I think it is PERFECTLY RATIONAL to consider 2-3 million people probably voted illegally.

However, acquiring specific and legal evidence for each of those illegal votes... that's a different matter.

Voter fraud has been going on for a long time. Trump is exposing the shenanigans of the globalists. The hive will be difficult to convince as to the level of corruption....it will be and is...,a shock to their system.

 

[p_rehbein]

Post credible Sources..............Sworn Statements from Attorney Generals of various States that read widespread voter fraud occurred in their State, and they decided to Validate the vote totals anyway.

I know voter fraud is a reality. It HAS ALWAYS been a reality.

Statistical data is like Polling date.......it can be made to say whatever one desires it to say.

Democrats are famous for their various tricks when it comes to voter fraud, however, in Presidential Elections (not State or Local) they have never managed to sway the outcome of the Election as far as I can find. If you know of a General Presidential Election where their antics were the determining factor for the outcome of the Election, please post it.

The POINT is.............He is the President.........he needs to get past his bruised ego and GOVERN. He has started off so well, there is no need to taint his progress with this stuff...........THAT IS THE POINT!

 

[Sirk]

Post credible Sources..............Sworn Statements from Attorney Generals of various States that read widespread voter fraud occurred in their State, and they decided to Validate the vote totals anyway.

I know voter fraud is a reality. It HAS ALWAYS been a reality.

Statistical data is like Polling date.......it can be made to say whatever one desires it to say.

Democrats are famous for their various tricks when it comes to voter fraud, however, in Presidential Elections (not State or Local) they have never managed to sway the outcome of the Election as far as I can find. If you know of a General Presidential Election where their antics were the determining factor for the outcome of the Election, please post it.

The POINT is.............He is the President.........he needs to get past his bruised ego and GOVERN. He has started off so well, there is no need to taint his progress with this stuff...........THAT IS THE POINT!

He is the chief law enforcement officer. Pointing out lawlessness is bruised ego in your world? I applaude him for bringing this and many other crimes to light. The only bruised ego I see is yours.

 

[p_rehbein]

Here are some Links folks can check out which represent both sides of this issue............personally, I think President Trump, and the Nation would be better served if he focused on Governing, and addressing the issues facing our Nation. ISIS, National Security, the Economy, rampant Congressional spending, need for upgrading the Military,......and many others.

Study Finds No Evidence of Widespread Voter Fraud - NBC News

No, voter fraud isn't a myth: 10 cases where it's all too real...

Here Are The Problems With The Trump Team's Voter Fraud Evidence

Pants On Fire for Trump's claim about 'serious voter fraud' in...

Voter Fraud Is Real. Here's The Proof - The Federalist

The simple truth about voter fraud - Vox

Fact-checking the integrity of the vote in 2016 | PolitiFact


THESE LINKS, AND THE ARTICLES CONTAINED THEREIN ARE F.Y.I. ONLY........ I neither agree with or dispute any of their assertions..........they are simply F.Y.I. for anyone who wants to read what has been reported on this issue.

 

[maxwel]

Post credible Sources..............Sworn Statements from Attorney Generals of various States that read widespread voter fraud occurred in their State, and they decided to Validate the vote totals anyway.

I know voter fraud is a reality. It HAS ALWAYS been a reality.

Statistical data is like Polling date.......it can be made to say whatever one desires it to say.

Democrats are famous for their various tricks when it comes to voter fraud, however, in Presidential Elections (not State or Local) they have never managed to sway the outcome of the Election as far as I can find. If you know of a General Presidential Election where their antics were the determining factor for the outcome of the Election, please post it.

The POINT is.............He is the President.........he needs to get past his bruised ego and GOVERN. He has started off so well, there is no need to taint his progress with this stuff...........THAT IS THE POINT!

If


If the left has been trying to delegitimize his presidency by saying he massively lost in the popular vote
(and they have)...

If the left has already started calling for his impeachment, on ridiculous grounds, BEFORE he even took office
(and they have)...

If he needs to move the country beyond these issues, and create some solidarity so he can govern
(and he does)...

Then maybe the voter fraud, and similar issues, really do need to be dealt with.




I'm not part of his staff; I'm not the expert here.
I'm just saying there might be legitimate reasons to deal with these issues.

 

[p_rehbein]

Each of those IF's are ok, but each of those IF's were put forth by the Republicans towards Obama.......what did that accomplish? This is only a BIG DEAL as long as Trump makes it a BIG DEAL.

IF he laughs it off, AND Governs, AND SHOWS the American people that he is there to do what he promised he would do.....NO ONE will care about this stuff!

He has a chance to accomplish some good things.........why in the world drive a wedge between himself and those he will need to accomplish good things?

He is about to nominate his pick for SCOTUS.......He NEEDS 60 VOTES to have that Nominee approved. That means 10 Dems will HAVE TO VOTE for his Nominee......well,,,,,,,,9 votes other than Repubs......

IF he continues to alienate Dems with this stuff.........he will never get his Nominee Confirmed.

In my opinion, the Seating of the 9th Justice on SCOTUS if far more important. He needs to pick his battles.......this Shotgun approach will only serve to derail his Agenda in my opinion. By continuing this direction, he is playing into the hands of his detractors........he is allowing them to determine what the NEWS will be each cycle........Rather than focusing on what he is doing that benefits the Country, they are focusing on this stuff.........that is exactly what his detractors want.

Candidate Trump did well with this voter fraud thing......President Trump needs to focus on other issues.......my thoughts

 

[maxwel]

Each of those IF's are ok, but each of those IF's were put forth by the Republicans towards Obama.......what did that accomplish? This is only a BIG DEAL as long as Trump makes it a BIG DEAL.

IF he laughs it off, AND Governs, AND SHOWS the American people that he is there to do what he promised he would do.....NO ONE will care about this stuff!

He has a chance to accomplish some good things.........why in the world drive a wedge between himself and those he will need to accomplish good things?

He is about to nominate his pick for SCOTUS.......He NEEDS 60 VOTES to have that Nominee approved. That means 10 Dems will HAVE TO VOTE for his Nominee......well,,,,,,,,9 votes other than Repubs......

IF he continues to alienate Dems with this stuff.........he will never get his Nominee Confirmed.

In my opinion, the Seating of the 9th Justice on SCOTUS if far more important. He needs to pick his battles.......this Shotgun approach will only serve to derail his Agenda in my opinion. By continuing this direction, he is playing into the hands of his detractors........he is allowing them to determine what the NEWS will be each cycle........Rather than focusing on what he is doing that benefits the Country, they are focusing on this stuff.........that is exactly what his detractors want.

Candidate Trump did well with this voter fraud thing......President Trump needs to focus on other issues.......my thoughts

Maybe he does need to focus on other things.


Maybe he needs to consider there are more elections coming up in 2 years...
and millions of cases of voter fraud could destabilize his administration in just 24 months.




I dunno... I'm not his political strategist.

 

[Sirk]

Maybe he does need to focus on other things.


Maybe he needs to consider there are more elections coming up in 2 years...
and millions of cases of voter fraud could destabilize his administration in just 24 months.




I dunno... I'm not his political strategist.

brilliant! You should be. You ever know in your heart there is a reason for something but can't quite play the movie all the way to the end?

 

[p_rehbein]

This seems to be the "sky is falling" approach to reality........but, who knows?

Again, I can not find one instance where voter fraud changed the course of a General Election.

The closest one would be the "hanging chad" debacle in Florida which was a beauty.........still.......

As for Trump, given his victory in the Electoral College........I don't think the stability of his Administration is in any danger any time soon. Four years from now? Who knows. But, four years from now will be far more affected by what he does as President..........even two years from now will have a great deal to do with his achievements........and how much they help the Republicans hold onto their Majority in both Houses of Congress.

 

[maxwel]

This seems to be the "sky is falling" approach to reality........but, who knows?

Again, I can not find one instance where voter fraud changed the course of a General Election.

The closest one would be the "hanging chad" debacle in Florida which was a beauty.........still.......

As for Trump, given his victory in the Electoral College........I don't think the stability of his Administration is in any danger any time soon. Four years from now? Who knows. But, four years from now will be far more affected by what he does as President..........even two years from now will have a great deal to do with his achievements........and how much they help the Republicans hold onto their Majority in both Houses of Congress.

Unfortunately, large scale voter fraud is very hard to prove... to the degree you can prosecute people.

I would guess we've had large scale voter fraud in every election, for a very long time.
The problem is figuring out how to prove all the individual case... seems virtually impossible to me.

I think the solution is to find ways to PREVENT it in the future.



I think if there IS a way to prove large scale voter fraud, and prosecute people, then that should be done.
I just can't see how that's possible.

So, I would probably focus on prosecuting political operatives for anything large-scale they're caught doing,
and then just focus on PREVENTION for the next election.

 

[Sirk]

Unfortunately, large scale voter fraud is very hard to prove... to the degree you can prosecute people.

I would guess we've had large scale voter fraud in every election, for a very long time.
The problem is figuring out how to prove all the individual case... seems virtually impossible to me.

I think the solution is to find ways to PREVENT it in the future.



I think if there IS a way to prove large scale voter fraud, and prosecute people, then that should be done.
I just can't see how that's possible.

So, I would probably focus on prosecuting political operatives for anything large-scale they're caught doing,
and then just focus on PREVENTION for the next election.

Maybe by showing an Id proving you're a citizen

 

[Urijah]

I am not 100% certain about the Dakota Access..........IF this is the one that cuts through the heart of Native American Lands (and I believe some of that is Sacred Lands for them), then I tend to not agree with it. However, Trump ONLY signed an Order saying that they would "revisit" the issue to determine the Environmental Impact of such a pipeline, so it is far, far from being a reality. Lots of time to consider this one.

Heh personally the reason I like him doing the Dakota Access Pipeline is for exactly this reason. I hope he thoroughly desecrates their pagan groves.

He ain't Nebuchadnezzar, but he might be Gideon.

 

[p_rehbein]

Come back when you grow up

Heh personally the reason I like him doing the Dakota Access Pipeline is for exactly this reason. I hope he thoroughly desecrates their pagan groves.

He ain't Nebuchadnezzar, but he might be Gideon.

 

[Urijah]

Come back when you grow up

Never left.

Exodus 34:13-14

[SUP]13 [/SUP]But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

 

[Sirk]

Heh personally the reason I like him doing the Dakota Access Pipeline is for exactly this reason. I hope he thoroughly desecrates their pagan groves.

He ain't Nebuchadnezzar, but he might be Gideon.

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. Having grown up with American Indians I appreciate and respect their culture and traditions.

 

[Urijah]

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. Having grown up with American Indians I appreciate and respect their culture and traditions.

I'm part native American, and I will have no respect for their pagan traditions, groves, and false gods. And it seems so does Trump. This is a good thing, praise the Lord God and may all the false gods be cut to the very ground.