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    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    that verse does not say aliens flying or ufos. the angels are not aliens ]
    You have not watched a UFO, scripture has not said there is or isn't UFO's, you haven't read or listened to what the people say who have seen them and yet you are telling us you are an authority with factual answers.

    At dusk one night I watched an object doing loops in the sky. It was the color and shape of a spotlight on the sky. It made no sound. It had a long tail, very like the tail on a kite. Its actions were a hover and then a loop. As it came near I could make out a sort of bump on the top with a row of what looked like windows. It left in a straight line with such speed it was over the horizon in seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    my wife said she thought she saw a u.f.o once, but i chuckled at her.


    where does the bible say this, that there is aliens above us ?
    There are many things the Bible doesnt say. Examples are the existence of Bacteria and Viruses, DNA and a number of other things that the Bible doesnt mention. Angels are intelligent none Human beings. We dont exactly know from the Bible what they all look like or where they all are. The Bible is concerned about our Spiritual condition its not meant to be an encyclopedia of every possible question and enquiry we may have
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanakh View Post
    There are many things the Bible doesnt say. Examples are the existence of Bacteria and Viruses, DNA and a number of other things that the Bible doesnt mention. Angels are intelligent none Human beings. We dont exactly know from the Bible what they all look like or where they all are. The Bible is concerned about our Spiritual condition its not meant to be an encyclopedia of every possible question and enquiry we may have
    What's really interesting though, is there is only 1 documented way to stop an "alien" abduction.... Call on the name of Jesus...

    Seriously, many "alien" abductees have come to Christ because of this.
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    Uh.......er............Yes...........AND.........N o



    Hebrews
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    1 .) Let brotherly love continue.
    2 .) Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

    methinks they can look JUST LIKE US............

    But, I do agree with the gist of your comment


    Quote Originally Posted by tanakh View Post
    There are many things the Bible doesnt say. Examples are the existence of Bacteria and Viruses, DNA and a number of other things that the Bible doesnt mention. Angels are intelligent none Human beings. We dont exactly know from the Bible what they all look like or where they all are. The Bible is concerned about our Spiritual condition its not meant to be an encyclopedia of every possible question and enquiry we may have
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    Hebrews 13:5 .) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    6 .) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

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    Angels......and demons for that matter..........spiritual beings from another realm all fit the definition of alien.........sooooo


    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    that verse does not say aliens flying or ufos. the angels are not aliens


    side note:do you know man has found out that stars make musical notes[or sings]
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    Hebrews 13:5 .) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    6 .) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

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    Ephesians 6:10) Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
    11 .) Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    12 .) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    13 .) Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
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    Hebrews 13:5 .) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    6 .) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanakh View Post
    There are many things the Bible doesnt say.
    Examples are the existence of Bacteria and Viruses,
    actualy God gave the Israelites an award-winning recipe for an antibacterial soap.

    the “water of purification”
    Apologetics Press - God’s Soap Recipe

    yes Angels are intelligent none Human [spirit] beings.
    they are mentioned in the bible, I do not call them aliens.

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    I call them angels, but they are certainly ALIENS to this earthly world/realm. Thus, they fit nicely the definition of alien.

    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    actualy God gave the Israelites an award-winning recipe for an antibacterial soap.

    the “water of purification”
    Apologetics Press - God’s Soap Recipe

    yes Angels are intelligent none Human [spirit] beings.
    they are mentioned in the bible, I do not call them aliens.
    Hebrews 13:5 .) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    6 .) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p_rehbein View Post
    I call them angels, but they are certainly ALIENS to this earthly world/realm. Thus, they fit nicely the definition of alien.
    God created three orders of angels to do His work. Cherubim are the highest and most powerful.Scripture names four that remained faithful: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel.Two rebelled against God: Lucifer and Abaddon.See Ezekiel 28:13-19.

    Seraphim are the middle order and serve as messengers of God. Genesis 28:12 speaks of a ladder to heaven; Jacob probably saw seraphim traveling between earth and heaven.

    Teraphim are the only ones who can take on human form, Hebrews 13:2. They are the angels who watch over us.The teraphim that have rebelled are called devils.

    Scripture does not give us much information about angels. The book of Enoch gives the most.That book was considered scripture until the Catholic Church council of 553 ruled against it.I and II Peter and Jude refer to Enoch.

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    Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if these were chunks of ice : p

    I mean just looking at how they move, they are all just floating along, suspended in air there, all at the same speed not moving from their course. If you were to push a ball in space it would just continue to go that speed in the direction you pushed it. Thats what these little spheres make me think of : p

    I wouldnt be surprised if they were random chunks of ice or rock just floating along in space, haha. Even if they were big chunks.
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    I saw an alternative Moon landing conspiracy theory. Instead of the whole thing being a hoax the real reason for the Moon missions was that Aliens are based there and everything we are told about the Moon is a big lie and cover up! Think about it. There could be a kernel of truth there somewhere. I still wonder how they got there using 1969 -1971 technology. without some kind of help. What kind of Computer was available in 1969?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeraza_Bats View Post
    Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if these were chunks of ice : p

    I mean just looking at how they move, they are all just floating along, suspended in air there, all at the same speed not moving from their course. If you were to push a ball in space it would just continue to go that speed in the direction you pushed it. Thats what these little spheres make me think of : p

    I wouldnt be surprised if they were random chunks of ice or rock just floating along in space, haha. Even if they were big chunks.
    Before posting, be a good idea to know a tiny bit about what you are posting. Weather balloons float along, stars appear to, but UFO reports don't say they saw one just keep floating along.

    Whether they mean us harm, help, or they just watch we are protected by the Lord. He is there even when we face death on this earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeraza_Bats View Post
    Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if these were chunks of ice : p

    I mean just looking at how they move, they are all just floating along, suspended in air there, all at the same speed not moving from their course. If you were to push a ball in space it would just continue to go that speed in the direction you pushed it. Thats what these little spheres make me think of : p

    I wouldnt be surprised if they were random chunks of ice or rock just floating along in space, haha. Even if they were big chunks.
    Suspended in air? Ummmmm is that not the vacuum of space? HAH

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    I saw an alternative Moon landing conspiracy theory. Instead of the whole thing being a hoax the real reason for the Moon missions was that Aliens are based there and everything we are told about the Moon is a big lie and cover up! Think about it. There could be a kernel of truth there somewhere. I still wonder how they got there using 1969 -1971 technology. without some kind of help. What kind of Computer was available in 1969?
    FYI, I was there. Much of the ground control depended on Univac CP642s. I worked on a military aircraft that used a 8" x 14" x 21" tape loaded computer for navigation, weapons, and flight control in 1963. Military computer systems were the offspring of CIA and NASA programs of the 1950s.
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    We need to be careful of terminology here-- "Alien" in the Bible refers to "foreigner," if I'm not mistaken, which is a term used to describe individuals who are in a country illegally, such as in America, where President Donald Trump is taking actions to deport "criminal aliens," which refers to people living in America without prior authorization from the government.

    It is very important to keep in mind that "Angels," are not "aliens." Angels are authorized by God to do His work as messengers and countless other ways. A demon could be called an "alien," since they are NOT authorized to take any actions regarding this world that would interfere with God's will.

    But, it is possible that God could use other beings to carry out His work and will, but, this is not a primary concern of human beings, since this has not been revealed through the Bible and salvation history. What is clear--crystal-- is that God is not an "alien," under any definition of this world. "Alien," would describe those who OPPOSE God's will.

    God has been revealed to humanity through the Judeo-Christian salvation history of the Bible: Old Testament and New Testament. Beginning with the revelation to Moses, God, or "ELOHIM," "JEHOVAH," "ADONAI," has been revealed as a Father-figure, especially through Jesus of Nazareth. But, the Divine Creator has also revealed Divine Power and authority through the parental model of Father and Mother, and through the family model. I've heard many pastors teach that God is about a personal relationship with His people. He also gave us a lady role-model in the presence of Mary, and many other women in the Bible. And the model of marriage, such as Abraham and Sarah, and the family model of a foster father in the person of Joseph, foster father of Jesus. Also, adoption is blessed by God since Moses was adopted, and Jesus was adopted by Joseph, His foster father. And, Christians are all "adopted," into the family of faith.

    But, Even though God is a supreme-being as revealed in many ways in the Bible, He is not an alien being. Someone who has devoted thousands of years to human history, committed to our salvation to the point of even becoming one of us in the Person of Jesus Christ, and preparing the world for this through Judaic history and the ancient scriptures of the Bible--Psalms and Prophets--for over 2,000 years.
    God became one of us-- as the Apostle John said: "The Word became flesh." (John 1) or "The Word became a human-being." Jesus is a human being; He is not an alien-being. Even though He is the Divine Son of God, He is still a human being--not a foreigner.

    "Foreigners," or "aliens," are those who take actions that are not authorized by God. This would include fallen angels, or "demons," and could include other fallen beings, if there are any that exist who do God's will. If there are so-called "alien-beings," like everything else in Creation, there are likely those who do God's will, and those who oppose Him.

    The Bible does describe possible instances of beings or angels or angelic beings, that do God's will. In all cases, God is not a foreigner to this world. He revealed Himself in many amazing ways-- speaking directly to people, which is recorded in the Bible. He is revealed as a very powerful Being of Light, Love, Truth, and Divine Power, Who has created the world for people to live in peace. In most cases in the Bible, His Presence was veiled because of His power to protect us people from being too overwhelmed. He is a God who can easily part the Red Sea, and bury His enemies beneath it if necessary, and then walk over them on the water, as Jesus did, to reveal His power and victory over the enemies of God.

    Sometimes the Bible does describe instances where the Divine Presence "ascended with trumpets," angels, music, and other indirect descriptions. If God chooses to travel with some sort of "vessel," it is described as possibly colorful, with music, trumpets, and other ways. IF He is mysterious, it is for a higher purpose.

    Most, if not all, of so-called "alien," sightings, tend to be revealed in ways that might appear "eerie," or "cold," or strange, etc... This does not describe the God of Israel. In fact, those kind of vessels that look like "stones," are described as existing in a low valley, and people who are controlled by them do not worship God. Maybe someone could find the verse I'm talking about, since I'm out of time at this computer, or I'll post it later.

    The eerie, cold, distant, weird vessels seen in sci-fi, or that might appear in real life, like the bizarre scene I witnessed briefly in a sci-fi movie where a strange humanoid was being forced by a cold, dark saucer, to eat poison and commit suicide in some kind of weird alien sacrifice, do not reflect the God of Israel. His presence is described in the Bible as more like the movie: "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," or colorful, trumpets, music, angels, rejoicing, and a loving being of Light devoted forever to the well-being and salvation of the people of the earth-- the Children of God, as John described.

    God is not a supreme-being who is "eerie," or "silent," or "creepy," or strange; He is a supreme-being who loves humanity very much, and even became one of us, to teach us personally, as Jesus Christ. The teachings of the Bible are clear that God cares for His people, and has gone to great lengths to convince humanity that our lives matter very much, and that His rules for life, are established for the benefit of humanity. In every case, when these rules are not honored, bad things always happen. Stewardship matters; Obeying God's rules matters very much.
    It's not that difficult to love God, love each other and love God's presence in ourselves in a humble way;
    To "worship the Lord," as I heard the voice of one beautiful loving angel, who I perceived as a lady angel, say in a dream sometime last year--
    in a loving, but, slightly pleading tone of voice.

    The LORD will appear in the sky, "in the same way as He left," as the Angels described when Jesus ascended to Heaven, and also as it was revealed to me in a dream many years ago. He will be Jesus-- and all humanity will know; Not strange flying saucers. So, don't worry about it. God is one of us. Just make sure we are one with Him, and we don't have to worry about anything else that happens in this world.
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    I seen quite a few aliens when I was in Cali for three weeks......as in ILLEGAL ALIENS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    I seen quite a few aliens when I was in Cali for three weeks......as in ILLEGAL ALIENS!

    You know that is very insensitive of you.

    The polite term is undocumented workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyd View Post
    FYI, I was there. Much of the ground control depended on Univac CP642s. I worked on a military aircraft that used a 8" x 14" x 21" tape loaded computer for navigation, weapons, and flight control in 1963. Military computer systems were the offspring of CIA and NASA programs of the 1950s.
    Thanks for the first hand info. However I was thinking more about on board technology. I know that Main Frame Computers were in use back as far as the fifties but what were the crew using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    I seen quite a few aliens when I was in Cali for three weeks......as in ILLEGAL ALIENS!
    I thought all Californians were Aliens! We have a really Cheesy Advert running on TV here trying to tempt us Brits to spend our holidays there. It does the opposite for me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanakh View Post
    Thanks for the first hand info. However I was thinking more about on board technology. I know that Main Frame Computers were in use back as far as the fifties but what were the crew using?
    The on board computers were much like the aircraft computers that I worked on. In the case of space craft there were two or more connected together. If a problem occurred in one computer, the remaining computer(s) were reconfigured.

    Below is the NASA link to many of the communications transcripts from the early space program.

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