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    Quote Originally Posted by peacenik View Post
    Funny how so many on the far right defended Bush when he created these wars,
    applauded the high profits made by the companies and his pals,
    but who today fail to assist the refugees created by those wars.
    This in open violation of their own Bible!

    The Bible teaches to be at Peace and to grant sanctuary to those in need.
    We do, America is the number one [giver] to those in need around the world.
    America is the number one nation in believing in God [or was] world round.
    Can you name another country more generious then the good ole U.S.of A ?

    Here we payout about 8,000 [per month] for [every refugee] entering the country.
    That number [times] about [one third of Americas population] who are taken care of.
    They rushed to the country because Mr Obama promised free care on our dime.

    Do you agree with the [sanctuary citys] in the U.S., that are breaking the law,
    and are refusing to reliese wanted ill. im. that are convicted criminals to authorities ?
    Vowing to continue to break federal law: Bible teaches to uphold the laws of the land.

    But forum right wingers demand the exact opposite:
    make war (or at the very least, applaud it),
    [far right]- does this mean you are biased then, and lean on the left side only?
    I guess I was lucky, I never had time for politices, in the end God has the say anyway.
    Again I ask question: where have I ever demand I wanted war or applauded it?
    if you can not answer this, please stop saying that people want war here on forum.

    Who here applaudeds the high profits made by the companies and his pals?
    To bad all the money U.S. invested and waisted in the middle east was for naught ,
    just a huge debt now and Iran is more defient then ever before, and stronger.
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    And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase,
    neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.

    and leave refugees to their own miseries.
    Why not try fixing the problem? of why they are comming here in the first place.
    Instead of try putting a bandaid on when the country has burst an artery wide open.


    Speaking of our time today, the Prophet Isaiah said that no one calls for justice or pleads for truth
    —“they trust in vanity, and speak lies” (Isaiah 59:4). This is God’s assessment of human government.

    Man is utterly incapable of administering righteous rule. Of course, ruling elites don’t believe this.
    They promise justice. They claim to be honest and transparent. Their intentions are always good
    and right.

    But what man really desires is the “freedom” to be left alone to do whatever he wants!
    He wants anarchy (Judges 21:25). This is why man is simply not qualified to rule
    and administer the government of God on Earth!

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    Who stands to benefit?

    Iran ought to take time to thank the Obama administration and the four unjustly imprisoned
    Americans it held. By ransoming the four prisoners on Jan. 16, 2016, Iran suddenly became
    $400 million richer—and could still look forward to receiving the remainder of the $1.7 billion deal.

    According to the administration, it was just coincidence that the money
    arrived the day—and hour—that American hostages left Iran.
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    Despite all this money, however, everyday Iranians remain poor. According to Iran Focus,
    15 million of Iran’s 78 million people live in slums. Poverty is endemic, with the World Bank
    estimating that 9 percent of Iranians live below the poverty line.
    Iran Overview

    Where Is the Money Going?

    According to Commentary, Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan bragged last month that
    Iran’s domestic defense industry expanded by more than two thirds over the past three years.
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/f...duction-grows/

    Dehghan claimed that the defense sector grew by 45 percent last year “in the field of armaments
    and weapons.” This expansion is dwarfed by the 2016–2017 budget, which saw a 90 percent
    increase in military spending over last year.

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    When the nuclear deal was signed, then U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry admitted that at least
    some of Iran’s unfrozen cash would trickle to the military. “I think that some of it will end up in
    the hands of the irgc [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] or other entities,
    some of which are labeled terrorists,” he said.
    John Kerry: Some money Iran received will fund terrorism - CNNPolitics.com

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    Take a guess what percentage of the $1.7 billion ransom payment
    ended up going to the irgc. The answer: 100 percent. the people 0
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    State Department Admits to Lying About the Iran Nuclear Deal

    The United States State Department admitted that it intentionally deleted an eight-minute exchange
    between a Fox News journalist and then-State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki on a video that
    was posted Dec. 2, 2013. During the exchange, Psaki essentially admitted that the Obama adminis
    -tration had lied about having secret talks with Iran.

    The State Department’s confession comes weeks after aspiring novelist Ben Rhodes, President
    Barack Obama’s top aide and speech writer, bragged to the New York Times magazine about
    manufacturing the narrative needed to garner support for the Iran deal. Part of the false narrative
    was that the White House only entered into negotiations with Iran after Hassan Rouhani became
    president in 2013. He was much more “moderate” than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,ready to make a deal.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/m...guru.html?_r=3

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    In an interview with Bloomberg View, associate fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Dem
    -ocracies Saeed Ghasseminejad said, “Article 22 of the budget for 2017 says the Central Bank
    is required to give the money from the legal settlement of Iran’s pre- and post-revolutionary
    arms sales of up to $1.7 billion to the defense budget.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...tary-expansion

    Of course, that $1.7 billion is just a portion of the $19 billion allocated to the military.
    The largest benefactor from the budget was the irgc, whose allocation expanded 55 percent.
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    Access to the global financial system has also led to Iran exporting more oil. Iran has used this
    new access as an excuse to ink weapons deals with Russia and China. The $10 billion deal that
    Iran made with Russia is seeing Iran receive Russian T-90 tanks, artillery, planes and helicopters.
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    This violates United Nations arms embargoes. Stockholm International Peace Research Institute wrote:
    Iran inks China military pact while mulling $10 billion Russian arms deal - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

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    On 9 June 2010, Security Council Resolution 1929 … imposed further restrictions on arms exports
    to Iran. Resolution 1929 inter alia prohibits states to directly or indirectly supply … Iran with major
    conventional weapons as defined by the UN Register of Conventional Weapons—battle tanks,
    armored combat vehicles, large caliber artillery, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships,
    certain missiles and missile launchers.

    But that is exactly what Iran is spending money on.
    https://www.sipri.org/databases/emba...embargoes/iran

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    December 6, 2016 America’s History of Paying Ransom to Iran
    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/1...ransom-to-iran
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    God inspired the Prophet Daniel to write: “And at the time of the end shall the king of [the south]
    push at him: and the king of [the north] shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots,
    and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow
    and pass over” (Daniel 11:40).
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    Default Re: Jesus’ Answer To President Trump’s Immigration Ban

    • Isaiah 33:7 (KJV)

      Behold, their valiant ones shall cry without:
      the ambassadors of peace shall weep bitterly.



    • Zephaniah 1:14 (KJV)

      The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly,
      even the voice of the day ofthe Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.



    • Ezekiel 21:12 (KJV)

      Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon

    all the princes ofIsrael: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people:
    smite therefore upon thy thigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    so you not even believe when they spew it out on national t.v.



    by the way you might want to get a newer artical then 2007 lol



    When will it happen? We've been told since 1980 when Khomeini came back from exile in Paris that he was going to invade Israel. That was 37 years ago.

    STILL WAITING!
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

    Matt 5:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by prove-all View Post
    funny you yourself admitted you where badgering others on this thread
    When confronted with your badgering of others on here you said


    Originally Posted by peacenik
    Yes [I] am sure that badgering is against forum rules.
    [But] you need to [direct your criticism] in that regard to those
    who make [false accusations] , and then [fail to back them up].


    my comments come at the end of this dissuction,
    you have badgered people this whole thread.



    Laughable. Funny how the right wingers continually project their sins unto all else.

    Oh by the way, your pal Utah openly admitted to wanting to see liberals die (again): AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ACT


    Let's the professing "Christians" {sic} here condemn such hate.
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

    Matt 5:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacenik View Post
    Laughable. Funny how the right wingers continually project their sins unto all else.

    Oh by the way, your pal Utah openly admitted to wanting to see liberals die (again): AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ACT


    Let's the professing "Christians" {sic} here condemn such hate.
    Ummmkay....when you start condemning the hatred of Islam. Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk;
    Ummmkay....when you start condemning the hatred of Islam. Deal?


    Here's the solution: 30 Top Bible Verses About Hate - Top Scriptures
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

    Matt 5:9

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    OK. Back on topic re Trump and his immigration policy:


    A Trump voter and supporter regrets her vote as Trump's policy now directly impacts her =








    As with so much of the Trump regime's ideas, many people love it all until it impacts them on a negative basis. This is why so many rejected his decision to end ACA. Expect other objections to come to light.
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    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

    Matt 5:9

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    There is a serious lack of common sense in the world,the Muslim extremists are doing exactly what they said they would they are bringing terrorism to the West with refugees in fact I think that this whole mid east war is a trojan horse thought up specifically for that reason.

    And when it comes to a nation suffering from poverty common sense would suggest that the very citizens of that nation come first so deporting people that WILLFULLY CONSCIOUSLY enter a country illegally to obtain jobs that by rights belong the citizens of that country is common sense.

    Of course im kinda a "nutcase" so ya know.

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    I'm not going to read the replies so I may be reiterating another's reply.

    This whole commentary, and it is no more than an opinionated commentary, evidently quite biased and misconceived in bible reference, is fundamentally inaccurate and irrelevant.

    You mistakenly, yet purposefully misconstrue and mislead by calling this legislation a "ban on Muslims". The informed know that it is a legal travel restriction put forward to enhance the vetting process of qualifying potential entrants into the U.S., not to ban every Muslim candidate. This has been done in the same fashion by presidents before and even the last President. You further your indoctrinating agenda by including the issue of Muslim refugees and pitifully substantiate your agenda with scripture about aid to a person in need as opposed to aiding a country in the removal of radical Muslim terrorism and fascism from their own land rather than spread them all over the world, further burdening the people of peaceful nations and increasing the risks of radical cohorts from entering with the peaceful.

    Once again, proof of blindness and subtlety of the enemy. Your criticism borders on bearing false witness and undermining the Democratic process. Not every person voted for Trump but the majority did. In a democracy we accept the majority. You also fail to realize that Christians voted for Trump and do continually lift him up in prayer to the Lord.

    Your politics is putrid and vile.

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    Cool Re: Jesus’ Answer To President Trump’s Immigration Ban

    Trump needs to visit the Statue of Liberty
    STATUE OF LIBERTY

    “Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free/The wretched refuse of your teeming shore/Send these,the homeless, tempest-tost to me/I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    "The Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World" wasa gift of friendship from the people of France to the United States and isrecognized as a universal symbol of freedom and democracy. The Statue ofLiberty was dedicated on October 28, 1886. It was designated as aNational Monument in 1924. Employees of the National Park Service havebeen caring for the colossal copper statue since 1933.

    In 1892, the U.S. government opened a federal immigrationstation on EllisIsland, located near Bedloe’s Island in Upper New York Bay. Between 1892and 1954, some 12 million immigrants were processed on Ellis Island beforereceiving permission to enter the United States. From 1900-14, during the peakyears of its operation, some 5,000 to 10,000 people passed through every day.

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