Cuomo and Transgender Intolerance

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No one seems to be catching the irony. The same people who tell us that each child needs his very own trophy for participating, who needs safe zones, who needs to be watch like a hawk because of such egregious things as sugar, roaming pedophiles, plastic in their drinking water, an insect leg in their peanut butter, waves coming from their cell phones, and cords on their venetian blinds is now telling us that we're too overprotective of children if they can't see a penis in the ladies room.

Oh well. I guess the MSM is done worrying about protecting kids. They found someone new who needs their protection.
 
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This trasgender thing Is one thing that I wish Trump would change but alas he seems to support transgenders using the bathrooms of their choice.
 
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No one seems to be catching the irony. The same people who tell us that each child needs his very own trophy for participating, who needs safe zones, who needs to be watch like a hawk because of such egregious things as sugar, roaming pedophiles, plastic in their drinking water, an insect leg in their peanut butter, waves coming from their cell phones, and cords on their venetian blinds is now telling us that we're too overprotective of children if they can't see a penis in the ladies room.

Oh well. I guess the MSM is done worrying about protecting kids. They found someone new who needs their protection.
I just read this to my wife. And she said, "My God! What will this sick world look like in 50 years? Thank Heaven we will be gone." I couldn't agree more.

Many people are just destroying the very world they are going to have to live in.
 
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This trasgender thing Is one thing that I wish Trump would change but alas he seems to support transgenders using the bathrooms of their choice.
I have no real problem with that. They have been taking risks and doing so for years. The problem is going to come when the Liberals finally wake up one day to discover that they have handed secure and solid legal protection to the perverts who will then be freely and expectantly going right on into women's bathrooms on the heels of their mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters.

And when one of them is molested, raped, or killed, the Snowflakes will be devastated.... wondering how in the world this could have happened.
 
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I have no real problem with that. They have been taking risks and doing so for years. The problem is going to come when the Liberals finally wake up one day to discover that they have handed secure and solid legal protection to the perverts who will then be freely and expectantly going right on into women's bathrooms on the heels of their mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters.

And when one of them is molested, raped, or killed, the Snowflakes will be devastated.... wondering how in the world this could have happened.

I don't think that's a surprise.


I think that's the plan.
 
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Im starting to really enjoy Tucker.I know he's not conservative but he certainly gets some insane comments out of these far left libs!
He's more Conservative than many of his guests.

I do like that he brings all sorts of wackos on.

On the other hand, I don't like condescending attitude he sometimes shows.
 
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He's more Conservative than many of his guests.

I do like that he brings all sorts of wackos on.

On the other hand, I don't like condescending attitude he sometimes shows.
It takes a real fool to go on the air against Tucker. They are going to lose their argument.
 

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It's a fabricated controversy. Transgenders have been using ladies roomsfor years and it's never been a problem.
And you have just proven the fact that this has nothing to do with allowing true transgenders to use the bathroom of their choice... this is simply another attack on non-GLBTXYZ folks.

There never WAS a problem with a transgender being denied access to the bathroom of their choice...

This is just a move to push their agenda into "normalcy"..... Thought control, nothing more or less.
 

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People were sexually violated long before transgendered people started going into the restrooms. The people doing the violating (with the exception of a small minority) aren't the legitimate/sincere transgendered people... they are non-transgendered people. Yes, they abuse their liberty and break the law by sexually violating people under the pretense they are "transgender". The real issue is with non-transgender people... not the transgendered people themselves.

Let's look at guns for a minute. Guns aren't the problem when discussing violence. People abuse their liberty by misusing guns. Should we outlaw guns because some idiots abuse guns? No, we prosecute the people breaking the law/abusing their liberty. We can't stop 100% of people from abusing guns... likewise, we can't stop non-transgendered people from pretending they are transgender so they can sexually violate someone... EVEN IF THERE WAS A LAW... The law itself does absolutely nothing to "protect" anyone!

You guys are listening to the "right main stream media" about what to be afraid of. If it were legitimate transgendered people sexually violating people in the restrooms then my position would change. The fact of the matter is it's not. It's misplaced fear and anger the masses has. This is coming from someone who thinks their lifestyle is an abomination and not parallel with the teachings and commands from the bible... but that has nothing to do with the sexual deviants praying on women and children in the restrooms.

My personal stance on the matter: Allow businesses to set the standards for who is allowed to go into their restrooms. Why do people want government to "solve their problems"? It use to be the left wing people wanted government to do everything for them but we are seeing a political change where now right wing people expect and demand the government to get into matters they shouldn't be getting into. The business pays the bills, let them run it how they see fit...
 
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People were sexually violated long before transgendered people started going into the restrooms. The people doing the violating (with the exception of a small minority) aren't the legitimate/sincere transgendered people... they are non-transgendered people. Yes, they abuse their liberty and break the law by sexually violating people under the pretense they are "transgender". The real issue is with non-transgender people... not the transgendered people themselves.

Let's look at guns for a minute. Guns aren't the problem when discussing violence. People abuse their liberty by misusing guns. Should we outlaw guns because some idiots abuse guns? No, we prosecute the people breaking the law/abusing their liberty. We can't stop 100% of people from abusing guns... likewise, we can't stop non-transgendered people from pretending they are transgender so they can sexually violate someone... EVEN IF THERE WAS A LAW... The law itself does absolutely nothing to "protect" anyone!

You guys are listening to the "right main stream media" about what to be afraid of. If it were legitimate transgendered people sexually violating people in the restrooms then my position would change. The fact of the matter is it's not. It's misplaced fear and anger the masses has. This is coming from someone who thinks their lifestyle is an abomination and not parallel with the teachings and commands from the bible... but that has nothing to do with the sexual deviants praying on women and children in the restrooms.
This entire issue is being made over a small group of people who dont want to have to live with the gender they were given at birth. So its placing their own feelings over the rest of society, giving up something both done in the name of comfort and safety just for the sake of the feelings of a group of people who are choosing to refuse to find ways to change their mindset and find acceptance with the way they were made.

The fact that a group of bad people can easily use this to harm others is a very good reason to be against the move.

And the rest of society should not have to give up having segregated bathrooms for the feelings of another group.
 

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This entire issue is being made over a small group of people who dont want to have to live with the gender they were given at birth. So its placing their own feelings over the rest of society, giving up something both done in the name of comfort and safety just for the sake of the feelings of a group of people who are choosing to refuse to find ways to change their mindset and find acceptance with the way they were made.

The fact that a group of bad people can easily use this to harm others is a very good reason to be against the move.

And the rest of society should not have to give up having segregated bathrooms for the feelings of another group.
Then lets be honest about it. This has NOTHING to do with wanting to "protect women and children" seeing as it's not the transgender people doing it [predominantly]. People need to admit that their discomfort is the real reason they don't want transgendered people going to the restroom they identify with seeing as they aren't the ones actually sexually violating people.

As for "the fact that a group of people can easily use this to harm others" being a good reason... Oh boy... you sound like some of my liberal anti-gun brothers and sisters in Christ who say the same thing about guns. "Well, people can abuse guns... so civilians shouldn't have access to them!" Yes... people can abuse guns... yes... people (non-transgender) can pretend to be transgender to sexually violate someone... but is this law going to suddenly stop them? Does the law that states it's illegal to murder stop people from murdering?
 

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I also don't get why allowing businesses to dictate their own standards is such a horrible thing. Why do right AND left wing people think government should get involve anytime they see a problem? If you don't like a business that allows transgender people to go to whichever restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! If you don't like a business that forbids transgender people from going into the restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! Big brother creates more problems than it solves...
 
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Then lets be honest about it. This has NOTHING to do with wanting to "protect women and children" seeing as it's not the transgender people doing it [predominantly]. People need to admit that their discomfort is the real reason they don't want transgendered people going to the restroom they identify with seeing as they aren't the ones actually sexually violating people.

As for "the fact that a group of people can easily use this to harm others" being a good reason... Oh boy... you sound like some of my liberal anti-gun brothers and sisters in Christ who say the same thing about guns. "Well, people can abuse guns... so civilians shouldn't have access to them!" Yes... people can abuse guns... yes... people (non-transgender) can pretend to be transgender to sexually violate someone... but is this law going to suddenly stop them? Does the law that states it's illegal to murder stop people from murdering?
The point is that we are creating a more dangerous environment when rapists know they can always get away with being caught in a women's restroom because laws would then protect them and their supposed "right" to be there. Even if a pervert tried to rape a woman, and failed..... it would be simply her word against his. Him being caught in a woman's restroom (even with his pants off) would mean nothing. It, then, would simply be his "right" as a warped gender puzzle nut to be in there with his clothes half-off.
 

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Then lets be honest about it. This has NOTHING to do with wanting to "protect women and children" seeing as it's not the transgender people doing it [predominantly]. People need to admit that their discomfort is the real reason they don't want transgendered people going to the restroom they identify with seeing as they aren't the ones actually sexually violating people.

As for "the fact that a group of people can easily use this to harm others" being a good reason... Oh boy... you sound like some of my liberal anti-gun brothers and sisters in Christ who say the same thing about guns. "Well, people can abuse guns... so civilians shouldn't have access to them!" Yes... people can abuse guns... yes... people (non-transgender) can pretend to be transgender to sexually violate someone... but is this law going to suddenly stop them? Does the law that states it's illegal to murder stop people from murdering?
Why cant it be both? There is an obvious fear of giving people a free pass to to any restroom, and yes there is a discomfort over having everyone in the same bathroom. I am absolutely open about it. Im already uncomfortable enough with sharing a restroom with strange men I dont know, why would I want to include everyone else?
In what way is that wrong? And why should I have to give it up for the sake of the feelings of others?

And there is a clear difference between the gun rights issue and the restroom issue. Guns are a tool, they are used both for hunting and self defense. They are a necessary part of life. Restrooms are a necessary part of life as well, but mixing the two segregated rooms is both unnecessary, and not a beneficial change. It is only being done for a group of people who are making the choice to not work out their issues with their bodies, and infringing the boundaries of everybody else.

Guns-needed for hunting and self defense, and actually necessary tool for living
Removing segregated bathrooms- Done for the sake of a few who dont want to change their mindset, breaking boundaries on everyone else

The gun rights issue is not an equal comparision.
 

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I also don't get why allowing businesses to dictate their own standards is such a horrible thing. Why do right AND left wing people think government should get involve anytime they see a problem? If you don't like a business that allows transgender people to go to whichever restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! If you don't like a business that forbids transgender people from going into the restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! Big brother creates more problems than it solves...
I have not seen a single post mentioning what businesses do with their restrooms.
 
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People were sexually violated long before transgendered people started going into the restrooms. The people doing the violating (with the exception of a small minority) aren't the legitimate/sincere transgendered people... they are non-transgendered people. Yes, they abuse their liberty and break the law by sexually violating people under the pretense they are "transgender". The real issue is with non-transgender people... not the transgendered people themselves.

Let's look at guns for a minute. Guns aren't the problem when discussing violence. People abuse their liberty by misusing guns. Should we outlaw guns because some idiots abuse guns? No, we prosecute the people breaking the law/abusing their liberty. We can't stop 100% of people from abusing guns... likewise, we can't stop non-transgendered people from pretending they are transgender so they can sexually violate someone... EVEN IF THERE WAS A LAW... The law itself does absolutely nothing to "protect" anyone!

You guys are listening to the "right main stream media" about what to be afraid of. If it were legitimate transgendered people sexually violating people in the restrooms then my position would change. The fact of the matter is it's not. It's misplaced fear and anger the masses has. This is coming from someone who thinks their lifestyle is an abomination and not parallel with the teachings and commands from the bible... but that has nothing to do with the sexual deviants praying on women and children in the restrooms.

My personal stance on the matter: Allow businesses to set the standards for who is allowed to go into their restrooms. Why do people want government to "solve their problems"? It use to be the left wing people wanted government to do everything for them but we are seeing a political change where now right wing people expect and demand the government to get into matters they shouldn't be getting into. The business pays the bills, let them run it how they see fit...
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. So let's put the guns in the hands of anyone who feels like carrying one? Yeah, kind of what you're saying.

I really do get transgender people wouldn't cause me any harm in the bathroom. BUT this law says anyone who wants to call themselves transgender gets to use whichever room they want to use. Hmmm, can you think of any particular reasons voyeurs, people with fetishes, and rapists wouldn't just walk into the ladies room?

And businesses can set standards? Peachy-keen because the standards for transgender bathrooms in this city is being set by the school board. Once again -- government. And the only people who have to send their kids to the public schools are the ones with no choice. They can't afford private schools and they aren't equipped to homeschool. In a city that only graduates half of the 18 year olds, (the other half quit at 16) and out of those graduates half are illiterate, exactly what business are we allowing to do whatever they wish?

AND, as a person who used to have to work for a living at a fulltime job, exactly how am I supposed to hold it in for nine hours per day because the business I work for thinks it's okay?

Your logic burnt to ash.
 
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I also don't get why allowing businesses to dictate their own standards is such a horrible thing. Why do right AND left wing people think government should get involve anytime they see a problem? If you don't like a business that allows transgender people to go to whichever restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! If you don't like a business that forbids transgender people from going into the restroom they identify as then DON'T SUPPORT THEM! Big brother creates more problems than it solves...
Oh, BTW my solution for schools allowing "transgenders" in bathrooms and the girl's locker rooms? I'd teach the girls what to do with a bar of soap and a wet sock. As for any girl ending up in the boy's locker? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. And possibly a criminal trial for rape.