Trump Tower Tapped by Obama?

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3009405/donald-trump-barack-obama-wires-tapped-trump-tower/

I am really enjoying how the media is being hijacked and side stepped with the use of twitter by POTUS Trump. If for no other reason, this is mad entertainment on a justice kind of level. That said, yeah if this is true then the previous POTUS Obama tread all over the constitution with the alleged action.

Wonder if O had ears on Hillary's basement as well....irony?
 
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As far as I can tell, Trump (as with many of his claims) hasn't cited any evidence. He just made an accusation.
 

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As far as I can tell, Trump (as with many of his claims) hasn't cited any evidence. He just made an accusation.
It's good enough for the democrats. Harry Reid accused Romney of not paying taxes and countless other examples by the demorat party. According to demorats, an accusation is the gospel truth.
 
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It's good enough for the democrats. Harry Reid accused Romney of not paying taxes and countless other examples by the demorat party. According to demorats, an accusation is the gospel truth.
They also accused the entire country of Russia. :confused:
 
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It's good enough for the democrats. Harry Reid accused Romney of not paying taxes and countless other examples by the demorat party. According to demorats, an accusation is the gospel truth.
I don't think all Democrats would agree that accusations=truth. However, just because one party acts wrongly doesn't mean that it's okay for every party to do so. If that were true, we'd have anarchy because every political party has made some bad choices. Until evidence is brought forward, Trump's accusation is just an accusation.
 
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I don't think all Democrats would agree that accusations=truth. However, just because one party acts wrongly doesn't mean that it's okay for every party to do so. If that were true, we'd have anarchy because every political party has made some bad choices. Until evidence is brought forward, Trump's accusation is just an accusation.
True, my instincts tell me there probably is evidence that Trump does not intend to bring out. This may be a tactic to encourage Obama to back off his efforts to coerce Trumps agenda. We'll see.
 

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True, my instincts tell me there probably is evidence that Trump does not intend to bring out. This may be a tactic to encourage Obama to back off his efforts to coerce Trumps agenda. We'll see.
I would say this is spot on. People underestimated Trump for 16 months during the primary and election as if he is some dumb noob. This was a negotiating tactic and I'll bet he has evidence.
 
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True, my instincts tell me there probably is evidence that Trump does not intend to bring out. This may be a tactic to encourage Obama to back off his efforts to coerce Trumps agenda. We'll see.
Maybe so. I'm not a fan of Trump and I am an Obama supporter. But, if Trump has evidence, I hope he brings it forward. If Obama tapped his tower, that would be unethical and I couldn't fully support him after that. But if Trump doesn't bring forth evidence I can't simply take his word for it.
 

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I don't think all Democrats would agree that accusations=truth. However, just because one party acts wrongly doesn't mean that it's okay for every party to do so. If that were true, we'd have anarchy because every political party has made some bad choices. Until evidence is brought forward, Trump's accusation is just an accusation.
As far as I am concerned..... anyone who aligns themselves with Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Tester, Waters, Schumer, Weiner, either clinton, and wears the pin or insignia of the democrat party is either a duped moron or a willing conspirator trying to destroy America. If they campaigned with Hillary or accepted funds from the DNC they are an enemy of liberty.
 
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As far as I am concerned..... anyone who aligns themselves with Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Tester, Waters, Schumer, Weiner, either clinton, and wears the pin or insignia of the democrat party is either a duped moron or a willing conspirator trying to destroy America. If they campaigned with Hillary or accepted funds from the DNC they are an enemy of liberty.
gay marriage, open borders, alliance with Iran, setting back relations with Israel, proclaiming "We are no longer a Christian nation...", Benghazi, Hillary's classified basement servers,... I could fill the buffer with items that will not allow a logical argument to your statement.
 
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As far as I am concerned..... anyone who aligns themselves with Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Tester, Waters, Schumer, Weiner, either clinton, and wears the pin or insignia of the democrat party is either a duped moron or a willing conspirator trying to destroy America. If they campaigned with Hillary or accepted funds from the DNC they are an enemy of liberty.
That's a pretty extreme view. Perhaps you should open up some conversations with coworker or neighbors who happen to also be Democrats. You may find you have a lot of views in common. Just like not all Republicans believe everything their party stands for, not every Democrat believes everything their party is known for.
 

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That's a pretty extreme view. Perhaps you should open up some conversations with coworker or neighbors who happen to also be Democrats. You may find you have a lot of views in common. Just like not all Republicans believe everything their party stands for, not every Democrat believes everything their party is known for.
Ummm....see sully's post above.
 

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That's a pretty extreme view. Perhaps you should open up some conversations with coworker or neighbors who happen to also be Democrats. You may find you have a lot of views in common. Just like not all Republicans believe everything their party stands for, not every Democrat believes everything their party is known for.

Well...golly gee...they think it's cool to kill babies but we agree on being able to use lead ammo on federal lands. Sounds like we should start a club and sing songs together.
 
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3009405/donald-trump-barack-obama-wires-tapped-trump-tower/

I am really enjoying how the media is being hijacked and side stepped with the use of twitter by POTUS Trump. If for no other reason, this is mad entertainment on a justice kind of level. That said, yeah if this is true then the previous POTUS Obama tread all over the constitution with the alleged action.

Wonder if O had ears on Hillary's basement as well....irony?
Trump is no idiot. If He is willing to bring this to the public.............he has something. If he didn't he would keep his mouth shut. He knows better.

O had ears on Killary. As Killary had ears on O.
 
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Well...golly gee...they think it's cool to kill babies but we agree on being able to use lead ammo on federal lands. Sounds like we should start a club and sing songs together.
Not all Democrats support gay marriage or abortion. I don't know anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes we should let people in without vetting them first. Unfortunately, we live in a world where all politicians are corrupt. Sometimes people choose the lesser of two evils. If people refuse to sit down and discuss one's differences, no one understands one another and nothing gets done.
But anyway, that's for a different thread. The point of this one was about the wire-tapping scandal.
 
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3009405/donald-trump-barack-obama-wires-tapped-trump-tower/

I am really enjoying how the media is being hijacked and side stepped with the use of twitter by POTUS Trump. If for no other reason, this is mad entertainment on a justice kind of level. That said, yeah if this is true then the previous POTUS Obama tread all over the constitution with the alleged action.

Wonder if O had ears on Hillary's basement as well....irony?
And I am with ya. Trump is KILLING the media with twitter. It is a pleasure,treasure and blast to watch. they are just beside themselves...........they can't hide.
 

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As far as I can tell, Trump (as with many of his claims) hasn't cited any evidence. He just made an accusation.
Not all Democrats support gay marriage or abortion. I don't know anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes we should let people in without vetting them first. Unfortunately, we live in a world where all politicians are corrupt. Sometimes people choose the lesser of two evils. If people refuse to sit down and discuss one's differences, no one understands one another and nothing gets done.
But anyway, that's for a different thread. The point of this one was about the wire-tapping scandal.
I tend to follow a conversation where it goes. You talked about Trump citing evidence. I just pointed out the hypocrisy of that statement. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And like wsblnd stated....it is really a pleasure to watch them get schooled at their own game.
 
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Not all Democrats support gay marriage or abortion. I don't know anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes we should let people in without vetting them first. Unfortunately, we live in a world where all politicians are corrupt. Sometimes people choose the lesser of two evils. If people refuse to sit down and discuss one's differences, no one understands one another and nothing gets done.
But anyway, that's for a different thread. The point of this one was about the wire-tapping scandal.
Was Obama vetted?