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    I have a "friend" on facepalm book who breathes thru his hands. Weird...
    No. a real life freind. I very known him years
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    No. a real life freind. I very known him years
    Uh huh....

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    I had heard he was born missing some parts.
    Like the tin man... ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    So in a nutshell you think only Christians should have rights.
    No, that's not what I said. I said that I don't think people who classify themselves as either atheist or transgender should be accorded equal protection under the law the same as gender issues or the freedom of religion under the First Amendment.

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    One of my good friend is atheist., served his country in Afghanistan.... but according to you he shouldn't have any rights
    I appreciate your friend's service to his country. We need more people like him! But military service does not entitle a person to broader Constitutional protection of his rights.

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    As to our Constitutional freedom of religion, let's take a look at the Amendment itself:

    "Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

    Notice that the Amendment does not prefer any one religion over another, and gives rights to the free exercise of any religion. I don't see where the wording of the First Amendment grants any rights for the absence of religion. And that's what atheism is, the absence of religion--or rather, the belief that there is no God (or gods, etc.). I understand that some federal judge made a ruling in Wisconsin a decade or so ago stating that a prison inmate's atheism was a religion. I think that judge was wrong. That's all I am saying.
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    No, that's not what I said. I said that I don't think people who classify themselves as either atheist or transgender should be accorded equal protection under the law the same as gender issues or the freedom of religion under the First Amendment.


    I appreciate your friend's service to his country. We need more people like him! But military service does not entitle a person to broader Constitutional protection of his rights.

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    As to our Constitutional freedom of religion, let's take a look at the Amendment itself:

    "Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

    Notice that the Amendment does not prefer any one religion over another, and gives rights to the free exercise of any religion. I don't see where the wording of the First Amendment grants any rights for the absence of religion. And that's what atheism is, the absence of religion--or rather, the belief that there is no God (or gods, etc.). I understand that some federal judge made a ruling in Wisconsin a decade or so ago stating that a prison inmate's atheism was a religion. I think that judge was wrong. That's all I am saying.
    who's asking for broader constitutional rights?...I want equal rights for all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    who's asking for broader constitutional rights?...I want equal rights for all
    Okay...then I should get equal protection under the hate crime laws if someone's calls me a honky.

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    Okay...then I should get equal protection under the hate crime laws if someone's calls me a honky.
    I don't think calling people racial names constitutes a hate crime as long as there is no violence or threat of violence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    who's asking for broader constitutional rights?...I want equal rights for all
    No, I think you just want to argue with anyone who tries to give you an honest answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    I don't think calling people racial names constitutes a hate crime as long as there is no violence or threat of violence
    You don't think? Maybe you should do a little investigation to make sure.

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    No, I think you just want to argue with anyone who tries to give you an honest answer.
    You said transgender and atheist should not have First Amendment rights
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    The right of the people to pretend they don't have a penis shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    The right of the people to pretend they don't have a penis shall not be infringed.
    Yep that is indeed their constitutional right. People do all sorts of irrational things. I think today I might identify as Batman.... because its America and I can do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    Uh huh....
    I'm sorry that your narrow mind can't comprehend any worldview beyond your own. I'm sorry you're too ignorant to understand that an atheist can seve his country. I'm sorry you're too self-righteous to understand that religion doesn't own morality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    I'm sorry that your narrow mind can't comprehend any worldview beyond your own. I'm sorry you're too ignorant to understand that an atheist can seve his country. I'm sorry you're too self-righteous to understand that religion doesn't own morality
    What's morality? Where does it come from? And does constitution really protect mental illness?

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    What's morality? Where does it come from? And does constitution really protect mental illness?
    yes it does.
    There's a guy here in my hometown who literally thinks he's Elvis. I promise I'm not making this up. But if he wants to identify as Elvis then he can do that because this is America
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    I'm sorry that your narrow mind can't comprehend any worldview beyond your own. I'm sorry you're too ignorant to understand that an atheist can seve his country. I'm sorry you're too self-righteous to understand that religion doesn't own morality
    What about a Christian worldview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    yes it does.
    There's a guy here in my hometown who literally thinks he's Elvis. I promise I'm not making this up. But if he wants to identify as Elvis then he can do that because this is America
    Hmmmm. I believe I'm married to Megan Kelly. I'm gonna go sleep in my wife's bed.

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    What about a Christian worldview?
    What about it?
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    What about it?
    Are we allowed one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    Are we allowed one
    yes... you're allowed to view and perceived things any way you wish. The problem I have with most Christians is that they feel like they had the authority to push their beliefs on others or to take away other people's rights. We've had this discussion before
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