School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
#1
School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

A teenage boy was told by school leaders that he had to “tolerate” undressing in front of a female student and to make it as “natural” as possible, according to a blockbuster lawsuit filed in a Pennsylvania federal district court.
The lawsuit, filed Tuesday by Alliance Defending Freedom and Independence Law Center, alleges the Boyertown Area School District shamed the teenage boy and violated his personal privacy. They are also alleging sexual harassment.
“No school should rob any student of this legally protected personal privacy,” ILC attorney Randall Wenger said. “We trust that our children won’t be forced into emotionally vulnerable situations like this when they are in the care of our schools because it’s a school’s duty to protect and respect the bodily privacy and dignity of all students.”
In the case of “Joel Doe” – they clearly ignored that duty.
Last Fall, the teen boy was standing in his underwear inside a locker room at Boyertown Area High School preparing to change for a physical education class.

“He suddenly realized there was a member of the opposite sex changing with him in the locker room, who was at the time, wearing nothing but shorts and a bra,” the lawsuit states.

The boy, along with several of his classmates reported the incident to Assistant Principal, named as a defendant.
“Dr. Foley indicated that the legality was up in the air but that students who mentally identify themselves with the opposite sex could choose the locker room and bathroom to use, and physical sex did not matter,” the lawsuit states.
The teenage boy asked the assistant principal if there was anything that could be done to protect him from the situation.
“Dr. Foley told Joel Doe to ‘tolerate’ it and to make it as ‘natural’ as he possibly can,” the lawsuit states.
As the boy got up to leave the office, the assistant principal allegedly told the youngster to again “be as natural as possible.”
Even more disturbing, parents were not told of the school district’s decision to let students of one sex use the locker rooms and bathrooms of students of the opposite sex.

“The District’s directive to Joel Doe was that he must change with students of the opposite sex, and make it as natural as possible, and that anything less would be intolerant and bullying against students who profess a gender identity with the opposite sex,” the lawsuit states.

The young man’s parents made an appointment to school leaders and were told that the district is “all-inclusive.”
The lawsuit alleges that Foley told the boy’s parents their son could use the nurse’s office to change – if he had a problem changing in front of girls.

Principal Brett Cooper, also a defendant, backed up the assistant principal’s solution.

Supt. Richard Faidley suggested if “Joel Doe was uncomfortable changing with those of the opposite sex, or with using the nurse’s office, then he could just withdraw from school and be home schooled.”
The school district has yet to respond to the lawsuit.
Should the school district be found guilty, they should immediately fire Faidley, Cooper and Foley. Their alleged behavior is beyond repulsive.
But the lawsuit clearly illustrates the radical sex and gender narrative being forced on every public school locker room in the nation.
And as evidenced by the school district’s behavior, resistance to this perverse indoctrination seems to be futile.

School orders boy to tolerate undressing with girl and make it natural | Fox News
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
55,885
26,048
113
#2
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

(In order to subvert the Untied States of America
Communist Marxist culture now becoming mainstream)

From The Naked Communist
Goals From 1958 (Some of them)

Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism...
Soften the curriculum. Get control of teacher associations.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting
pornography in books, magazines, motion pictures, and TV

Promote homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity
as normal, natural, and healthy

Eliminate prayers in the schools on the grounds
that it violates separation of church and state

Discredit the family as an institution; encourage promiscuity and easy divorce

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship
and a violation of free speech and freedom of the press

Infiltrate the press. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and movies

Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion
with social religion. Discredit the Bible


 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
11,728
6,319
113
#3
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

(In order to subvert the Untied States of America
Communist Marxist culture now becoming mainstream)

From The Naked Communist
Goals From 1958 (Some of them)

Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism...
Soften the curriculum. Get control of teacher associations.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting
pornography in books, magazines, motion pictures, and TV

Promote homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity
as normal, natural, and healthy

Eliminate prayers in the schools on the grounds
that it violates separation of church and state

Discredit the family as an institution; encourage promiscuity and easy divorce

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship
and a violation of free speech and freedom of the press

Infiltrate the press. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and movies

Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion
with social religion. Discredit the Bible


so true. but, according to the media, books like this do not exist. all this moral downward spiral just " happened ".
 
Aug 25, 2016
236
1
0
#4
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Sounds like the school has some Liberal leaders. It's a shame when parents have to police the school their children attend. Who ever these people are running the show in this school should be Fired.
 

Billyd

Senior Member
May 8, 2014
5,049
1,491
113
#5
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

I guess I'm really getting old. When I was in high school, every boy in the locker room would have been cheering the girl on. Of course the teachers and or coach would have stepped in and escorted her out of the boy's locker room. Things sure have changed!
 
Feb 28, 2016
11,311
2,972
113
#6
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

may Gid have 'mercy' upon us!!!
 
R

ROSSELLA

Guest
#7
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

This is terrible! I can't possibly understand what it's like to be a transgender person and I feel compassion for their mental anguish, but that doesn't mean we should be sacrificing the comfort of nontransexual children for the comfort of others! At least have either a third locker room or barriers so members of one sex don't need to look at the other undressing (or undress in front of others)! There's are several reasons we don't live in one big nudist colony and the fact that privates should be private is one of them!
 
Jan 27, 2015
2,690
367
83
#8
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Wow. Change in the nurse's office or leave the school are the options?

A kid shouldn't have to leave his school because he has to change for P.E. and wants to do so without a girl there.

Why can't the girl who thinks she's a boy change in the nurse's office (or, you know, the girls locker room)? o_O
 
Mar 23, 2017
474
3
0
#9
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

I always felt uncomfortable changing in front of people regardless of gender, so I just wore my shorts under my pants and a t-shirt under my shirt lol.
 
Mar 21, 2017
329
7
0
#10
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Seems the leaders just made the school dress code, null and void. Teachers may have to tolerate speedos and bikinis in the classroom. Who knows what less. Leaders may have to tolerate using the same bathroom as the students, or the students tolerating it.


 
Aug 2, 2009
24,580
4,269
113
#11
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

I did not like gym class except for the fact that we got to go outside, and I do not like locker rooms. What was this girl thinking? Doesn't she know how disgusting boys locker rooms are?!! :confused: I bet her parent's didn't watch Oprah..
 

Tommy379

Notorious Member
Jan 12, 2016
7,589
1,151
113
#12
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

I couldn't imagine what it would have been like if this happened when I was in school. We would have been gross in front of this girl just to be cruel. Fruit basket, bat wings, and helicopters.
 
Nov 12, 2015
9,112
822
113
#13
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

A teenage boy was told by school leaders that he had to “tolerate” undressing in front of a female student and to make it as “natural” as possible, according to a blockbuster lawsuit filed in a Pennsylvania federal district court.
The lawsuit, filed Tuesday by Alliance Defending Freedom and Independence Law Center, alleges the Boyertown Area School District shamed the teenage boy and violated his personal privacy. They are also alleging sexual harassment.
“No school should rob any student of this legally protected personal privacy,” ILC attorney Randall Wenger said. “We trust that our children won’t be forced into emotionally vulnerable situations like this when they are in the care of our schools because it’s a school’s duty to protect and respect the bodily privacy and dignity of all students.”
In the case of “Joel Doe” – they clearly ignored that duty.
Last Fall, the teen boy was standing in his underwear inside a locker room at Boyertown Area High School preparing to change for a physical education class.

“He suddenly realized there was a member of the opposite sex changing with him in the locker room, who was at the time, wearing nothing but shorts and a bra,” the lawsuit states.

The boy, along with several of his classmates reported the incident to Assistant Principal, named as a defendant.
“Dr. Foley indicated that the legality was up in the air but that students who mentally identify themselves with the opposite sex could choose the locker room and bathroom to use, and physical sex did not matter,” the lawsuit states.
The teenage boy asked the assistant principal if there was anything that could be done to protect him from the situation.
“Dr. Foley told Joel Doe to ‘tolerate’ it and to make it as ‘natural’ as he possibly can,” the lawsuit states.
As the boy got up to leave the office, the assistant principal allegedly told the youngster to again “be as natural as possible.”
Even more disturbing, parents were not told of the school district’s decision to let students of one sex use the locker rooms and bathrooms of students of the opposite sex.

“The District’s directive to Joel Doe was that he must change with students of the opposite sex, and make it as natural as possible, and that anything less would be intolerant and bullying against students who profess a gender identity with the opposite sex,” the lawsuit states.

The young man’s parents made an appointment to school leaders and were told that the district is “all-inclusive.”
The lawsuit alleges that Foley told the boy’s parents their son could use the nurse’s office to change – if he had a problem changing in front of girls.

Principal Brett Cooper, also a defendant, backed up the assistant principal’s solution.

Supt. Richard Faidley suggested if “Joel Doe was uncomfortable changing with those of the opposite sex, or with using the nurse’s office, then he could just withdraw from school and be home schooled.”
The school district has yet to respond to the lawsuit.
Should the school district be found guilty, they should immediately fire Faidley, Cooper and Foley. Their alleged behavior is beyond repulsive.
But the lawsuit clearly illustrates the radical sex and gender narrative being forced on every public school locker room in the nation.
And as evidenced by the school district’s behavior, resistance to this perverse indoctrination seems to be futile.

School orders boy to tolerate undressing with girl and make it natural | Fox News
This is utterly ridiculous. I'm stuck lately on the study of manipulation because it shocks me so easily how it happens to us without us seeing it is happening. They told the girl she could do what she did. But they didn't mention it to any of the boys. They were given no clue of what was going to happen. So it was an obvious manipulation in order to stir up provocation, to get some headlines, to continue pushing an agenda and a crusade for something. And it worked. They got the attention they wanted to bring their "plight" back onto the stage.

So the question becomes: why did they not do it openly, with all parties involved getting the information that, hey, we've changed a policy that will affect all students? They did NOT fly by the seat of their pants on this one. It was well thought out. All have been manipulated, including us, the reader.

After we answer the first question, the other ones will bob to the surface. Remove the first screen and the other ones can be seen.
 
Mar 23, 2017
474
3
0
#14
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

This is utterly ridiculous. I'm stuck lately on the study of manipulation because it shocks me so easily how it happens to us without us seeing it is happening. They told the girl she could do what she did. But they didn't mention it to any of the boys. They were given no clue of what was going to happen. So it was an obvious manipulation in order to stir up provocation, to get some headlines, to continue pushing an agenda and a crusade for something. And it worked. They got the attention they wanted to bring their "plight" back onto the stage.

So the question becomes: why did they not do it openly, with all parties involved getting the information that, hey, we've changed a policy that will affect all students? They did NOT fly by the seat of their pants on this one. It was well thought out. All have been manipulated, including us, the reader.

After we answer the first question, the other ones will bob to the surface. Remove the first screen and the other ones can be seen.
I disagree. I think what we have here is a classic case of backfire. I think according to the article the school probably let the girl use the boy's locker room to change in order to try to avoid the common controversy over the whole gender identification stuff that is popular these days and to try to avoid the big controversy these days about discriminating against gender identification. Obviously though that backfired seeing as one of the boys felt uncomfortable changing in front of a girl.

I think this is obvious they were trying to avoid controversy in the way they tried to disregard the boy's complaint and sweep him under the rug. I think if they really wanted to make a controversy out of it they would have just punished the boy out right for discrimination rather than encourage him to pretend like the girl is not there or to offer the alternative of changing in the nurse's office. Ironically in their attempt to avoid the controversy over gender identification and by neglecting the boy's point of view, well, they pretty much ended up in the same controversy anyways.

Now I'm not saying the school's judgement was right, I just don't think it is some well thought out articulate master plot. It seems to me more like a case of trying to fix one error of judgement with another error in judgement and then ending up with pretty much a bigger mess than they had before.

Really if you think about it it is kinda sad. The boy gets no real justice, the girl gets no real acceptance, and the school gets no real recognition for tolerance or academic excellence. The only ones getting any profit from the controversy really are the lawyers and FOX news.
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#15
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

(In order to subvert the Untied States of America
Communist Marxist culture now becoming mainstream)

From The Naked Communist
Goals From 1958 (Some of them)

Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism...
Soften the curriculum. Get control of teacher associations.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting
pornography in books, magazines, motion pictures, and TV

Promote homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity
as normal, natural, and healthy

Eliminate prayers in the schools on the grounds
that it violates separation of church and state

Discredit the family as an institution; encourage promiscuity and easy divorce

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship
and a violation of free speech and freedom of the press

Infiltrate the press. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and movies

Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion
with social religion. Discredit the Bible



You are dead on! Just posted a video in a thread on this very subject. Socialist/Communists bringing down America. Wolves,they are everywhere.
 
Nov 12, 2015
9,112
822
113
#16
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

I disagree. I think what we have here is a classic case of backfire. I think according to the article the school probably let the girl use the boy's locker room to change in order to try to avoid the common controversy over the whole gender identification stuff that is popular these days and to try to avoid the big controversy these days about discriminating against gender identification. Obviously though that backfired seeing as one of the boys felt uncomfortable changing in front of a girl.

I think this is obvious they were trying to avoid controversy in the way they tried to disregard the boy's complaint and sweep him under the rug. I think if they really wanted to make a controversy out of it they would have just punished the boy out right for discrimination rather than encourage him to pretend like the girl is not there or to offer the alternative of changing in the nurse's office. Ironically in their attempt to avoid the controversy over gender identification and by neglecting the boy's point of view, well, they pretty much ended up in the same controversy anyways.

Now I'm not saying the school's judgement was right, I just don't think it is some well thought out articulate master plot. It seems to me more like a case of trying to fix one error of judgement with another error in judgement and then ending up with pretty much a bigger mess than they had before.

Really if you think about it it is kinda sad. The boy gets no real justice, the girl gets no real acceptance, and the school gets no real recognition for tolerance or academic excellence. The only ones getting any profit from the controversy really are the lawyers and FOX news.
Backfire? Okay, that's possible. Explain how you arrive at that because I need to know what evidence you base it on.
It seemed to me that you were saying that because of what the principal said/his reaction, that it led you to believe that he was very surprised that any of the 12 year old boys would think it odd or would be bothered or would even mention it and so was very embarrassed or shocked that there was a backfire?
 
M

Miri

Guest
#17
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

If it had been the other way around, I was in the women's changing rooms and a
man/boy pretending to be a girl walked in. I would have got him in a head lock
and thrown him out!

If people cant work out what gender they are from the bits on the human body, they
either need their head examine or they need deliverance.

When I was a kid I was a bit of a tom boy but never for one minute did I think I was
an actual boy! I just preferred the rough and tumble games with the boys. They were
just more fun to be with than the girls. (I had my head screwed on I knew I preferred
boys at a young age. Lol).

Nowadays if someone is a tomboy, society tries to convince you that you
are a boy.

As for parents who tell their toddlers they can be any sex they choose, they want
their heads examining too! Either that or to get off the weed.

As it was in the days of Noah......it makes you wonder just how bad it was back then
doesn't it......
 
Mar 23, 2017
474
3
0
#18
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Backfire? Okay, that's possible. Explain how you arrive at that because I need to know what evidence you base it on.
It seemed to me that you were saying that because of what the principal said/his reaction, that it led you to believe that he was very surprised that any of the 12 year old boys would think it odd or would be bothered or would even mention it and so was very embarrassed or shocked that there was a backfire?
I just base it on how the article is written.

I don't think the principal was surprised, but I think by the reaction the article states that he was trying to avoid one controversy (gender identity issues) by simply trying to brush the boy's point of view aside. Obviously that backfired since now this is national news.
 
Dec 17, 2013
822
7
0
#19
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Yet another example of satan owning the world,the Bible says that in the end times satan will own the world temporarily,I think that that period began awhile ago so the end is probably closer than most people think.

What that kid did is commendable and frankly it's surprising coming from the young progressive,independent generation.

That backward regressive comment about cheering the girl is a perfect example of why the world got as bad as it did.

That person that made that comment is on a Christian web site so they probably think that they are a "good Christian" LOL.
 

Billyd

Senior Member
May 8, 2014
5,049
1,491
113
#20
Re: School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"

Yet another example of satan owning the world,the Bible says that in the end times satan will own the world temporarily,I think that that period began awhile ago so the end is probably closer than most people think.

What that kid did is commendable and frankly it's surprising coming from the young progressive,independent generation.

That backward regressive comment about cheering the girl is a perfect example of why the world got as bad as it did.

That person that made that comment is on a Christian web site so they probably think that they are a "good Christian" LOL.
Thanks for your criticism. The boy's locker room is not a strip joint. A woman entering the locker room to strip down is attempting to make it that. I am the one who made the comment that you refer to. I'm 75 years old and come from a different generation. A generation where we recognized that we were either male or female when we looked into the mirror. A generation where we recognized that there physical differences between male and female bodies. We were not bombarded daily by the garbage of I am better than you because I am a woman and I believe I am a man, nor I am a man and I believe that I am a man. We (men) didn't have the women of the world beating down bushes to crawl into bed with us. No girl of my teenage world would have ever walked int a boy's dressing room and started changing clothes. The only woman that would even consider something like that was found on certain street corners on any Friday or Saturday night. Yes, every boy in the locker room would be cheering her on, but the cheering would have lasted a few minutes, because the girl would be removed from the boy's locker room and escorted to the girl's locker room.

I hope that you will take the time to look at my comment in the light of which it was made. I apologize if I offended you in any way. It was not my intention.