This Whole Russia thingy............

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p_rehbein

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I am SOOOOO OVER this whole Russia thingy...........and all the nonsense the Dems and the Media are pouring all over us.

To begin with: The Obama Administration, Clintons (both Hillary and Bill) and the Dem Party have had far more contact with and dealings/conversations with various Russian Officials and Putin himself than ANYONE in the Trump Administration.

WHEN: Obama was caught telling that Russian not to worry about the whole Nuke thing, because when he was reelected, he would deal with that. Narry of Dem had a problem with it.

WHEN: Hillary tried and failed to do the RUSSIAN RESET...........narry a single Dem had a problem with that.

WHEN: Hillary sold the Russians 20% of our Nations enriched plutonium, narry a single Dem had a problem with that.

WHEN: Ole Bill got HUGE checks for speeches from various Ruskies..........narry a single Dem had a problem with that.

NONE OF THE DEMS have a leg to stand on when it comes to who talks to Russians or has dealings with them.

Now.......concerning Russia messing with our Elections..........sure, no one wants that. However, the Russians have been doing this, or trying to, for years and years! Narry a single Dem has ever pitched a fit until now.

AND.........regarding all these INVESTIGATIONS........how about we open an Investigation into how many times the U.S. Government has "hacked" various Foreign Governments/Persons and tried to mess with THEIR Elections/Business dealings. Do people REALLY BELIEVE the U.S. does not do this on a daily basis? Seriously?

AND..........as for trying to alter the Election results of a Foreign Nation..........do people not remember that the Obama Administration ACTIVELY tried to defeat Netanyahu in Israel's last Election? They EVEN SENT members of Obama's Election Campaign Staff to israel to work for Benji's opponents. Where was the OUTCRY from the Dems then?

The Repubs are idiots.........or, simply DO NOT know how to play Hard Ball.

What they SHOULD DO is put together a Video of all the Statements made by the Dems about Russia in the past 9 years, and all their dealings with the Russians......purchase huge blocks of Commercial Time on ALL the Networks and DRIVE this stuff into their foreheads with giant rusty nails!

Worry not, the Repubs are idiots.......or, simply do not have the COURAGE to play Hard Ball the way the Dems do.

If anyone has their panties in a wad over this whole Russia thingy, take a deep breath, get 'em outta the old butt crack, and don't fret it.............this stuff has been going on for YEARS...........and WE DO IT to them just like they do it to us.
 

Billyd

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Nothing in the world of politics will ever change. There are two swamps there. When we drain one the other one grows, and the one we are draining just gets muddier. When we swamp that we are draining into gets full, we'll start draining it into the muck.
 
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I know that some people might think this is crazy,but there is a system called the Hegel system,where they set up 1.Thesis 2.Antithesis 3.Synthesis,back to 1 but in a higher form.Which I believe they are doing that with America and Russia.

1.Thesis-America.

2.Antithesis-Russia.

3.Synthesis-back to 1 but in a higher form,and a better system than both Thesis and Antithesis on their own,which would be the start of the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,a blending of America and Russia,the aspects of America but not so tolerant,and the aspects of Russia but not so strict,and they believe that is is a better system.

Right Wing and Left Wing is also a Hegel principle.

If that is what they are doing is the Hegel system with America and Russia to produce the system when the world comes together and says,Peace and safety,America and Russia has been cooperating more than what people realize,but they appear to be opposites,all the whole exposing both sides and the benefits of both sides for the blending in the future of them,a system patterned after both of them,a hard democracy,or a soft communism.