Christian Nurse Sacked

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Siberian_Khatru

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Christian nurse Sarah Kuteh sacked after telling cancer patient he had better chance of survival if he prayed to God (From News Shopper)

A Christian who was fired after offering to pray with patients ahead of their surgery has claimed she was unfairly dismissed.

Eight complaints were made by “extremely vulnerable” patients facing surgery and the nursing sister was sacked in August before being referred to the Nursing and Midwifery Council for disqualification proceedings.

Victoria Leivers-Carruth, who chaired the hospital trust's appeal hearing, said the panel believed Mrs Kuteh was using her one-to-one time with patients to "impose her religious beliefs" on them.

She said in her statement: "We did not believe that Mrs Kuteh was being disciplined because she was a Christian.

"It was apparent to us that Mrs Kuteh was disciplined because she had engaged in conversations about religion that were unwanted by patients and contrary to her line manager's instructions."
 

Roughsoul1991

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There is a great difference in asking can i pray for you and the patient says yes compared to if the patient says no and you go on ahead in prayer.

I wonder which was it.
 

Billyd

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There is a great difference in asking can i pray for you and the patient says yes compared to if the patient says no and you go on ahead in prayer.

I wonder which was it.
Very few have ever told me no, but when they do, I walk away, and pray for the patient when I am out of his/her sight.
 
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When my future-husband was a new Christian, he'd spend some of his time at each customer's house witnessing to them. (He was a heating/air-conditioning mechanic.) A customer called his company to complain and he was sacked.

It was a Friday, so he had time to think over that one over the weekend. (He also had time to find a new job. Good HVAC mechanics get jobs quickly. The field gets to know the good ones because most don't stay at any given job too long, so the grape vine works well. lol) He realized his job was to fix heaters, not to witness, so he was stealing time from his employer.

After work (at his new job) that Monday, he went back to his old boss to apologize and tell him he was right to fire him. That floored the old boss, and he asked future-hubby to return. He declined the offer but thanked him.

Now THAT was good witnessing!

I prayed for the guys I met when hubby was in the hospital. I even had some of their stories placed on the Prayer Request board on this site. But I never bothered asking the guys if they wanted me to pray because I was going to whether they wanted me to or not.

I too go with the nurse should have asked, if the patient wanted to be prayed for, and to do it in a way that the patient felt free to say no. Hubby would have been thrilled if any of his nurses had asked. As it stands, we have no idea if they did or didn't pray for him, but we do know God answered prayers for hubby. He was prayed for -- openly, and quietly.
 

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Very few have ever told me no, but when they do, I walk away, and pray for the patient when I am out of his/her sight.
One time I asked a patient if I could pray with him before I left, and his response was, "if it makes you feel better." I'll leave it up to your imagination as to what response I gave him.
 
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That's really screwed up in today's economy,I hope that she gets another job,this is probably discouragement from the dark powers.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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That's really screwed up in today's economy,I hope that she gets another job,this is probably discouragement from the dark powers.
Which economy are you referring to?
 

Dude653

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One time I asked a patient if I could pray with him before I left, and his response was, "if it makes you feel better." I'll leave it up to your imagination as to what response I gave him.
Walk away and wipe the dust from your feet as per biblical instructions
 

Dude653

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I would have to know the whole story before forming an opinion. If the patients had already made it clear did they were not interested then she should have left it alone
 

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Just imagine a person dying of cancer, reporting one for offering them to pray to God for hope of survival while in that state. That my friends is the heart of the lost; cold, hostile, hardened toward God.
 

Dude653

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Ultimately your job is to comfort the patient. If they don't want prayer then leave them be.
 

Billyd

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Ultimately your job is to comfort the patient. If they don't want prayer then leave them be.
So you would walk away and forget the spiritual need of the patient. The only problem that I have with the nurse is her approach. She should have asked the patient. If the patient said no, she should have left it at that. When she was away from her patient, she should then voice her prayer.

I would have taken it one step farther. I would have added the patient to my daily prayer list.
 

hornetguy

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So you would walk away and forget the spiritual need of the patient. The only problem that I have with the nurse is her approach. She should have asked the patient. If the patient said no, she should have left it at that. When she was away from her patient, she should then voice her prayer.

I would have taken it one step farther. I would have added the patient to my daily prayer list.
I imagine that is what Dude would do... but the point is, if the patient indicates no interest, then leave them alone about it...
 
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That's really screwed up in today's economy,I hope that she gets another job,this is probably discouragement from the dark powers.
Not everything is 'dark powers'. The woman broke a rule, over and over, and received many complaints. That's called 'consequences'. And not everything that seems bad at that moment is bad in the long run. What if God had her lose her job for a reason? Now you're crediting 'dark forces' rather than God.
And dark forces? Ok, Vader.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Just imagine a person dying of cancer, reporting one for offering them to pray to God for hope of survival while in that state. That my friends is the heart of the lost; cold, hostile, hardened toward God.
I don't mean any disrespect, but if you can't sympathize with someone rejecting prayer, someone suffering and on their death bed, then the heart of any of those qualities you catalogued belong to you, not the afflicted.

Not everything is 'dark powers'. The woman broke a rule, over and over, and received many complaints. That's called 'consequences'. And not everything that seems bad at that moment is bad in the long run. What if God had her lose her job for a reason? Now you're crediting 'dark forces' rather than God.
And dark forces? Ok, Vader.
I find your lack of faith in the dark side disturbing. :p