Bill O'Reilly... does anyone really care?

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Siberian_Khatru

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This story conflates things a bit, but it raises an interesting point: Have we truly normalized sexual assault and harassment?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../?hootPostID=eb922e30d37f09fd63f780fa75650ae9

From the article:

Bill O'Reilly is facing fallout from a sexual harassment scandal — a series of settlements with women who claim he made unwanted advances, lewd comments and phone calls in which it sounded as if he was masturbating, the New York Times reported.

The host of Fox News' top-rated show has hired a crisis manager. But does he need one?

Though The O'Reilly Factor is hemorrhaging advertisers (more than 40 companies have suspended or dropped ads), viewership of Fox News' top-rated show is climbing: On Monday and Tuesday it had 3.7 million and 3.8 million viewers, respectively, up 14% from the same two nights last week.

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It's led victims of sexual assault and harassment to question whether anyone cares what happens to women.

As activist Shaun King wrote in his column on Thursday, "we live in the age of the gross normalization of sexual assault and harassment."

Have we grown indifferent?
 

p_rehbein

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As far as O'Reilly is concerned.......I don't care what happens to him.

As far as the normalization of sexual harassment/assault is concerned.......it is being normalized, just like same sex marriage, gay/lesbian lifestyle, transgender identifications, legalization of drug use............and such. All part of the coming downfall of mankind.

As far as being indifferent...........many, if not most, are growing in their indifference due to the overwhelming instances of these things.......

Back to O'Reilly.......he is FNC's cash cow.........as long as he is, they will simply look the other way. It should also be said that while I believe the first couple of instances that he "settled" were most probably true, onec he (and those like him) settle the first time, he/they become a "target" for people seeking to make a quick buck. So each case should be considered on it's merits and not lumped in with others. Some may have merit, some may not. It only takes one false charge to discredit a dozen true charges........sadly
 
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notuptome

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He is high profile and has made many enemies. I doubt we will ever know if the charges are true or not. That network is hated by all the other networks and have been subjected to a well organized attack to reduce their credibility.

My guess would be that all the networks are the same in their moral convictions. This network is just the focus because of the current political climate.

Can we afford as a nation to have their voice silenced?

For the cause of Christ
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The issue is with false claims I think. It dulls people to assault and it takes away from real cases. When someone brings a false claim they ought to do prison time IMO
I think this has a lot to do with the almost "boredom" of listening to yet another harassment claim. I know it does for me. I get so tired of hearing the whining of sensitive little Snowflakes thinking they have been assaulted because a man smiles at them, or says "Hello."
 
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kaylagrl

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I think this has a lot to do with the almost "boredom" of listening to yet another harassment claim. I know it does for me. I get so tired of hearing the whining of sensitive little Snowflakes thinking they have been assaulted because a man smiles at them, or says "Hello."

Ya,I agree with that. The term is misused.My father was accused of sexual harassment by a co-worker. She was joking with him and he took her wrist and moved her out of his way in front of a room full of co-workers. She said it was "sexual bondage" and was going to bring a case. His boss told him to lay low and do nothing. He called his lawyer who said he would tear her up if she was stupid enough to try and bring a lawsuit.
 

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Another problem is that in US society (and I suspect in many other parts of the world as well), men are seen as those who act, and women are seen as those who are acted upon, i.e., women have no agency and therefore cannot and should not be held responsible in any way for what happens to them. Based on this worldview, male sexuality and male sexual behavior, no matter what form it takes, is very often seen as predatory toward and victimizing of women.

So most men, whether they are actually guilty of sexual impropriety or not, are viewed with automatic suspicion.
 
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I basically hear some seem to say, "Poor Bill!"

To which I would reply, "watsamadda wit you?"

My personal response to Bill's "situation"...... very simple.....


YAY!!!!

An old saying comes to mind....."caught with his pants down"

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
;)


 

hornetguy

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If those women were truly sexually assaulted, then why in the world would they accept ANY payoff to go away?

If they were suddenly offended because he winked at them, or made some sort of suggestive comment, then they got what they wanted.... money.

Too many high profile men are targeted by women that probably acted somewhat suggestively, then decided to cash in on a normal response from a man...

Ever read the story about Joseph and Potipher's wife?

If Bill O was truly guilty of sexually assaulting these women, then they would have pressed their case onward to make sure he couldn't continue in that kind of behavior. The fact that they took a "payoff" to leave him alone speaks volumes.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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There seems to be a trend in thought on this, and I think I basically agree with it.

We seem to have reached normalizing the falsification of these types of claims, not the act in and of itself, and that has made us a bit cynical in our responses when this sort of thing comes up now.
 
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If they were suddenly offended because he winked at them, or made some sort of suggestive comment, then they got what they wanted.... money.
This is the "power" of the mammon system. It is how the prince of this world enslaves and controls. Money.


Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and you're okay
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team

Money, get back
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bs
I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet

Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for payrise it's no surprise
That they're giving none away
Away, away, way
Away, away, away
 
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Tommy379

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This is all old news. This all happened years ago. I remember fox news reporting on it myself, probably 12 years ago. No new claims are made. Sounds like Rachel Madcow is behind it, she can't beat him in that time slot. Just like Madcow making a big deal about Trumps 2005 tax return, that had already been reported on previously.
 
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Have we truly normalized sexual assault and harassment
Yes, ever since Billy Clinton claimed sex was not sex... since then sexual perverts with money shell out some cash so the woman that was offended gets a new house and a nice savings account and everyone is seemingly happy





the normalization of sexual harassment/assault is concerned.......it is being normalized, just like same sex marriage, gay/lesbian lifestyle, transgender identifications, legalization of drug use............and such. All part of the coming downfall of mankind.
Exactly... the perversion is just getting started and will only get worse from here.





I doubt we will ever know if the charges are true or not
Yes, and some babes now days think if a guy is coming on to them if they are being friendly to them




Couldn't happen to a more deserving person
Yes, wishing and taking joy at other people's mis-fortunes is so anti-christ.


Yo momma n'them mus be proud.

You from da hood yo?





Ever read the story about Joseph and Potipher's wife?
Good point. Ain't nuthin new under the sun.




Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and you're okay
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team

Money, get back
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bs
I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet

Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for payrise it's no surprise
That they're giving none away
Away, away, way
Away, away, away
I don't seem to have that in my bible... you got one of those prosperity preacher's bibles er something?
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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This is all old news. This all happened years ago. I remember fox news reporting on it myself, probably 12 years ago. No new claims are made.
No, they're not recent, but more of the story is being unveiled. I believe three cases/settlements were covered years back, while others were not as talked about─

New York Mets executive chef shares thoughts on opening-day foods Video - ABC News

In any case, the first report I saw of it recently posed the question: "Does anyone really care?" I wanted to have a dialogue about that and its implications.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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I don't seem to have that in my bible... you got one of those prosperity preacher's bibles er something?
It's in the Book of the Dark Side of the Moon. See "Waters 2:14".
 

presidente

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When you think of Bill O'Reilly, do you think of a kind decent man who treats other people well? Would you want to work with him or for him?
 
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Sully

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When you think of Bill O'Reilly, do you think of a kind decent man who treats other people well? Would you want to work with him or for him?
I don't have to spend much thought to know he's a made man. Kinda like Don corleoni.
 

Tommy379

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No, they're not recent, but more of the story is being unveiled. I believe three cases/settlements were covered years back, while others were not as talked about─

New York Mets executive chef shares thoughts on opening-day foods Video - ABC News

In any case, the first report I saw of it recently posed the question: "Does anyone really care?" I wanted to have a dialogue about that and its implications.
It was reported years ago, settlements were made.

It's easy for most people who have never been sued, to say they would never settle if they didn't do it, therefore O'Reilly must have done it.

The thing to remember is that it is often cheaper to pay off a complainant, than to defend against a false claim.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I don't know this specific case
... but I was listening to the radio earlier this year... they were interviewing teenage boys, and they all said something along these lines:

"If I touch a girls breasts and she says no, that just means she is trying to pretend she doesn't want it, but I know she does, so I do it anyway"

So basically, if you don't stab the guy touching your breast, crotch whatever, you are apparently "consenting"
 

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I agree with Bill O'Reilly politically so I really don't care if he sexually harasses women or not. Now if he was a liberal that would be a different story...