United Airlines stocks plummets by 1.4 billion in one day

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LanceA

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So my question is, is there a fine print somewhere when you buy a ticket you are agreeing to the airline possibly taking your seat if it needs it? If there is a fine print somewhere then that Chinese guy had no right in saying no.
 
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So, this latest on this doctor. It's wild. All kinds of drug convictions, some homosexual stuff, and a restricted medical license.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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Yea
He's gotten charged for buying and selling trafficking drugs
(Credit of the media so accuracy may not be great lol)
 
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The will have a new first class ticket.....guaranteed no beat downs, blanket parties, butt whippings etc......
 
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It may explain why he went nuts and started screaming and fighting when they asked him to disembark.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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So my question is, is there a fine print somewhere when you buy a ticket you are agreeing to the airline possibly taking your seat if it needs it? If there is a fine print somewhere then that Chinese guy had no right in saying no.
So you're saying that if it's in tiny print somewhere on the ticket and the guy was unaware (I had always assumed once you buy your ticket you have a seat - seems logical to me) and refused to move, it was OK to manhandle him in such a way he was bloodied and unconscious??? Unbelievable!!! It all boils down to the same thing - greed. The airlines overbooking and fully aware they are doing so for profit above customer care. Whether the guy was a rapist, murderer or whatever has zilch to do with the fact he was wronged by the airline and to add insult to injury they then complain that HE was disruptive...erm I think I would have been a tad disruptive in those circumstances too!
 
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Hellooo

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Several things
1. The flight was full, not overbooked. Every paying customer had a seat
2. The 4 'reaccomodations' were to route 4 crew members to another flight to prevent a flight cancellation at a different destination
3. A "contract of carriage" is the agreement you enter into when you purchase a ticket that lists all the fine print around the possibility of getting bumped. But it isn't normal protocol to have people removed once everyone is already boarded, it's typically addressed at the gate
 

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So you're saying that if it's in tiny print somewhere on the ticket and the guy was unaware (I had always assumed once you buy your ticket you have a seat - seems logical to me) and refused to move, it was OK to manhandle him in such a way he was bloodied and unconscious??? Unbelievable!!! It all boils down to the same thing - greed. The airlines overbooking and fully aware they are doing so for profit above customer care. Whether the guy was a rapist, murderer or whatever has zilch to do with the fact he was wronged by the airline and to add insult to injury they then complain that HE was disruptive...erm I think I would have been a tad disruptive in those circumstances too!
What United Airlines did was atrocious and the explanation for their conduct was lame.
 
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Hellooo

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Yeah they definitely could have handled it way better...offer more cash! Still cheaper than the possibility of cancelling that other flight. If it's doable, maybe call in more crew to cover the gap they were trying to fill, perhaps?
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Geoff Fearns faced identical treatment around the same time as David Dao did. Fearns fought United staff at the time, but relented and pursued his fight through alternative means. I have an easier time seeing Fearns as a victim.

I concede on the point that Dao's choices in his practice aren't relevant here, but it remains that he also chose to be openly ornery with law enforcement. United isn't the only one that could/should have handled this better. That Dao did some heinous things outside of this simply hinders my capacity to sympathize for him all the more.
 

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So, this latest on this doctor. It's wild. All kinds of drug convictions, some homosexual stuff, and a restricted medical license.
victim blaming.. standard procedure in a case like this. Dig up dirt on him to hurt his credibility
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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victim blaming.. standard procedure in a case like this. Dig up dirt on him to hurt his credibility
It does seem like United got the word out to deflect the negative attention on them.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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...if only I had the money to buy put options on UA before this event. I could have made a batch of money.
 

p_rehbein

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Their one day loss was much closer to 225 million according to Fox News Channel

Not ONLY should United pay out the wazzola, but the Police Officers who assaulted the man should face charges as well. Normally, I would be in support of the Officers, but, in this instance, their conduct was nothing more than Felony Battery.

Whichever Officer was the Ranking Officer on scene, should have assessed the situation, considered the options, and TOLD the United employees to leave the man alone............Sometimes, the best approach is NOT to act.
 

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Apparently he was convicted of walking around his hotel room with no shirt and his flies undone.

On the day he was busted, Dao was secretly videotaped with Case in a Red Carpet Inn in Jefferson County, Ky., “with his shirt off and his pants undone,” the records say.
Something doesn't pass the smell test here
 
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Amazing-Grace

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I hate it when Christians use the term "Karma" - it is a Buddhist and Hindu concept and nothing to do with Christianity.
 

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The physician who was taken off the plane is the bad guy in this case. He should have just got off the plane. If the flight crew tells you to get off, get off. Your fight is in a court, not a plane. I looked in it, and there are criminal laws about what this guy did by refusing to leave. The police did their job, thats it. What ever injury this guy got, he did it to himself by refusing to leave.

I doubt this guy will get much, if anything, from suing the airline.
 

presidente

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The perfect time to buy more!
I am thinking about it. If they lose business and have to be acquired or merge, the value of the stock will go up. But if they go bankrupt, creditors get paid off before stockholders, so there is that risk. Historically, how do stockholders of bankrupt airlines do?
 

Smoke

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The physician who was taken off the plane is the bad guy in this case. He should have just got off the plane. If the flight crew tells you to get off, get off. Your fight is in a court, not a plane. I looked in it, and there are criminal laws about what this guy did by refusing to leave. The police did their job, thats it. What ever injury this guy got, he did it to himself by refusing to leave.

I doubt this guy will get much, if anything, from suing the airline.
Allow me to make an extreme scenario to counter your point that "he is the bad guy" because he didn't get off the plane when ordered/asked.

What if instead of beating/blooding/knocking him out, the policeman pulled out a samurai sword and decapitated him in front of all the other passengers. Is it "still his fault" for not getting off the plane?

We get it... he should have gotten off the plane. I don't think anyone here disagrees... We might sympathize with him because he BOUGHT a ticket, but there is legal justification for United to remove him if they need to clear up space for crew members. That legal justification does not grant the police to use the excessive force they did for something as minor as refusing to get off the plane. Just as there is no justification to decapitate the man because he refused to get off the plane... Sure, if he had gotten off when he was told to, he wouldn't have been decapitated, but the penalty for refusing to get off a plane when you purchased a ticket isn't decapitation (or being beated/knocked unconscious in this scenario).

Also, the airline already said the man isn't at fault. I'm not sure why you think the man won't settle for a lot of money.
 
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