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    Default Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    I'm not completely surprised by this statement, since evidently there is no truth in him, but thought this was interesting to share.

    In his speech to the United Nations he addresses them "In my own name" (not in the name of Jesus, but his own name)...

    Link --> Pope Francis: What He Told the United Nations General Assembly - ABC News

    "......In my own name, and that of the entire Catholic community, I wish to express to you, Mr Ban Ki-moon, my heartfelt gratitude. I greet the Heads of State and Heads of Government present, as well as the ambassadors, diplomats and political and technical officials accompanying them, the personnel of the United Nations engaged in this 70th Session of the General Assembly, the personnel of the various programs and agencies of the United Nations family, and all those who, in one way or another, take part in this meeting. Through you, I also greet the citizens of all the nations represented in this hall. I thank you, each and all, for your efforts in the service of mankind"



    John 5:41-47: “I do not receive honor from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
    "If we want to study the word of God, we need to have an open mind to allow the Holy Spirit to teach us. A closed mind lets in no light. If the Spirit illuminates a scripture, we need to be willing to display a teachable spirit. When we align ourselves with any particular camp we are no longer teachable. That is elementary"



    John 14:27: "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid"


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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    And yet... more and more people who claim to be Christians are wanting to be lock step with catholiks and other false religions!

    What's so hard to understand that those that do not adhere to and teach what God's Word says.... are NOT of God???

    Sadly, many of these folks have been "educated" into the wisdom of mankind thru college or seminary where they certainly did not learn what God's Word teaches that's fo sho!

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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    A prime candidate for false prophet....he also recently tied the Koran and Bible together and that they both represent the same god.....what a liar and deceiver....!

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    A prime candidate for false prophet...
    Looking that way to me too... some are wondering is Erdogan (leader of Turkey) may be rising to power and could be a candidate for anti-christ.

    I guess if we see the pope getting real friendly with this guy... that'd be something to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    A prime candidate for false prophet....he also recently tied the Koran and Bible together and that they both represent the same god.....what a liar and deceiver....!
    I have always believed that one of the future popes will play the part of the false prophet. Taking into consideration the devotion of over 1.2 billion Catholics, you can imagine what is going to happen when that future pope/false prophet begins to perform those miracles, signs and wonders for the purpose of authenticating the claim of the first beast as being God. These signs that he will perform will pull in all of the pseudo christian sects during that time such as Mormonism, JW, Scientology, Christian science, Unification church, etc., etc. The first deception will be when that first beast receives that fatal wound and survives.

    It's pretty amazing that though this information is written right in the word of God, many will still be deceived because of the position of the pope/false prophet and they will worship the beast, his image and receive his mark because they will follow him without question.
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    Pray for Catholics ive seen many of them brought to tears by this sinister man.
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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    The Pope will be the false prophet,and will be the spiritual leader of the unified religious system.

    In the latter times some shall depart from the faith,and follow an occult interpretation of the Bible(1 Timothy 4:1-5),that will be the standard format of the unified religious system,and the time that the world will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

    In Daniel the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down,which in the future will branch out in to ten horns,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the man of sin,beast,comes from them,and they shall devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces.

    All Gentile nations are together,but the Roman Empire has the dominion.

    The beast kingdom will be based on the occult,regards no personal God,and in to spiritual evolution.

    Since the Roman Empire has the dominion,and the Roman Catholic Church is basically her religious institution,they will change to fit the changing Roman Empire that reverts back to the old time systems,and kingdoms,and looks at the Bible as of the occult,and well as all religions.

    The Vatican becomes the headquarters,and the Pope the spiritual leader,which they probably infiltrated the Vatican years ago,and changed her from within.

    When the Roman Empire embraced Christianity,the Bible,they did not get rid of their religious ways,but held unto them,and they became their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures,so they can sway towards the pagan side even more since their foundation is pagan.

    They become Mystery,Babylon the Great,the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth,for she represents all the false religions of the world,with a false interpretation of the Bible,Islam,and Judaism,but this system was already a part of a nation that has the Babylonian spirit,and set the pattern for the future.

    The Pope will be the false prophet,for the Vatican,and the Roman Catholic Church,is basically the Roman Empire's religious system.

    Many people that claim to be Catholic will leave her when she becomes that offbeat though.

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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    The following verses are singled out of the Revelation to make this point:
    The beast is a Satan powered king [therefore a man], who has had a terrible head wound,
    has disappeared, and will publicly reappear, and amaze the world.

    Revelation chapter 13
    13v1'....I saw a beast coming out of the sea...'
    13v2'. ...dragon gave him his power...'
    13V3'... .and I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed.....'
    13v7'....authority over every tribe and people. ....... was given him....
    13V12'...and he [beast from earth] makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life....'

    Revelation chapter 17
    17v3'. ..and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having 7 heads and 10 horns.....'
    17v8'....the beast that you saw was and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go to destruction.
    And those who dwell on the earth will wonder, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast

    that he WAS and IS NOT and WILL COME ....'

    17v11'...and the beast that was and is not, is himself also an eighth [king] and is one of the seven...'

    Based on detailed, unique, visible, verifiable prophecy/Revelation fulfillment,
    I assert/declare that the Vatican is the great whore of the Revelation,

    Therefore I further assert the beast is Roman Catholic.
    Can you think of a world famous Roman Catholic who has had a world famous terrible head wound under extremely mysterious circumstances?

    I predict/prophecy in Jesus name that John F. Kennedy will publicly reappear,
    amaze the world, take world power, and is in fact the beast of the Revelation.

    This fulfillment will confirm the truth of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
    This fulfillment will confirm the truth of Jesus Christ the living Lord & Savior.

    KISSINGER and 666

    Note there are two beasts of Revelation 13.
    One from the sea.The other from the land. One is a Gentile. The other is a Jew.

    English is the world's single most widespread language:
    A= 1 x 6 = 6, B = 2 x 6 = 12, C = 3 x 6 = 18, D = 4 x 6 = 24, E = 5 x 6 = 30, etc.

    K= 66
    I= 54
    S= 114
    S= 114
    I = 54
    N= 84
    G= 42
    E= 30
    R= 108
    + 666

    Kissinger's name equates to '666' by a simple formula.
    Kissinger is Jewish
    Kissinger is Papal advisor and premier "world statesman'
    Kissinger documented evil NWOrder leader

    So: Re- Vatican, JFK, and KISSINGER
    The question becomes-
    Would Jesus Christ allow such literal fulfillment to occur coincidentally?
    I say NO, Jesus would not.

    Therefore I am COMPELLED to believe that it is prophecy fulfillment in progress.

    The confirmation of my contention will be the public and literal reappearance of JFK who will take world power with Kissinger at his side.

    I urge anyone to personally study and heed the entire Revelation.

    Early in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, God promises to bless anyone who reads or hears the Revelation and heeds it.
    '...for the time is near'...'
    '....and the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast...'
    wait and see....
    Call on Jesus Read and HEED His Revelation!
    The Lord once said, 'Surely, just as I have intended, so it has happened, and just as I have planned, so it will stand......'
    Isaiah 14:24

    SLINGING SEEDS
    JFK: Sexual sociopath and political faker

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    Hello JWP,

    Can you think of a world famous Roman Catholic who has had a world famous terrible head wound under extremely mysterious circumstances?


    Actually, the scripture does not state that the beast receives a head wound, as can be seen from the following:

    "
    One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed."

    Each of the seven heads of the beast represent kings. Therefore the verse is saying that one of the heads i.e. one of the kings receives a fatal wound.

    Also, you are correct in that, the antichrist will in deed be a man and will be empowered, not by Satan directly, but by that beast that comes up out of the Abyss, who is that angel called Abaddon/Apollyon.


    I predict/prophecy in Jesus name that John F. Kennedy will publicly reappear, amaze the world, take world power, and is in fact the beast of the Revelation.


    Remember, this beast, that future eighth king, belongs to the seven who were Roman rulers. Also, we must remember that this is not specifically an American prophecy and therefore, I doubt very much that JFK nor Kissinger has anything to do with this prophecy. Not to mention that there is nothing to support this and no way to prove it.


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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahwatukee View Post
    Hello JWP, Actually, the scripture does not state that the beast receives a head wound, as can be seen from the following: "One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed." Each of the seven heads of the beast represent kings. Therefore the verse is saying that one of the heads i.e. one of the kings receives a fatal wound.
    Also, you are correct in that, the anti-christ will in deed be a man and will be empowered, not by Satan directly, but by that beast that comes up out of the Abyss, who is that angel called Abaddon/Apollyon.


    Remember, this beast, that future eighth king, belongs to the seven who were Roman rulers. Also, we must remember that this is not specifically an American prophecy and therefore, I doubt very much that JFK nor Kissinger has anything to do with this prophecy. Not to mention that there is nothing to support this and no way to prove it.
    Do you agree the Vatican is the Revelation chapters 17&18 described "Great Whore" ?

    I appreciate we agree the 2 Beasts are 2 men. Many can't accept/believe that.

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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    But isn't there only one God, and yet different religions have a different perception and interpretation of God?

    Even the Bible which stands for one religion has 2 versions of God, the Old and the New. This is why the Jews rebuke the New testament, and Islam created their own spin off which is based more on the Old.

    But on top of that, teachers have their different views which leads to division, and among us brothers and sisters we have different views and find it hard to focus on the main element of what God is, Love.

    More important than anything, is Love. Maybe one day people will start focusing on it.

    The fact that they don't, is kind of why people within religion can be as bad as each other. Even the Atheist can have morals on being loving, and they are not using 'being saved' 'going to heaven' 'getting 72 virgins in heaven' as their reason for being loving. And yet they might not lead the most spiritual life, but Love can be more precious to them, than those who act like Pharisees who are without Loving opinion and ONLY speak what they think is the truth (self-righteousness).

    What I am interested in, is, when did humans start to think about there being a God. That is a realistic question.

    Religious texts didn't just drop out of the sky.

    Teachers who promoted religious texts didn't float down on an illuminated cloud either.

    For me, I believe in Jesus. That is my religion. Who he was, what he stood for, and how we should aim to be more Christ like if we want to know God. We can follow laws, and rules, and authority, those who claim to be the true authority of truth (false teachers tend to permeate political and social normalisation, using power of logic, not love).

    But quite simply, we can just stop for a moment and think, is not Love the most important thing above all other things?

    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    A prime candidate for false prophet....he also recently tied the Koran and Bible together and that they both represent the same god.....what a liar and deceiver....!

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    Hello MJ007,

    Yes you are correct. The works of God are these, to believe in the One whom God sent, Jesus Christ, and to love one another. However, performing those does not justify compromising with God's word. We are to discern what is the truth and what is a false teaching, especially in these last days when the world is literally being inundated with false teachings. Regarding this Paul said:

    "Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!"

    And Jude also said:

    "
    Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

    The only way to know a false teacher, is to be completely familiar with the word of God, so that we can teach, contend, correct and rebuke.

    In these days it is not enough to discern between what is right and what is wrong, but what is right and what is almost right.
    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control ...

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    This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit ....

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    Ah yes, however;

    If one has a loving mind with loving intention; does not it discern a far greater truth of knowing what is truth?

    This may not be so helpful in say the subject of mathematics, although, if you think about it academically - if you look at the grades you got for your subjects, in what order are they? Are they in the order of how hard you worked, or how much you loved them? As in, was it love that brought the intelligence, that brought God present, and your success in that subject?

    Love really is the answer above all things. It is a fine line between self-intelligence, and loving intention as to whether someone is a well-learned Pharisee who puts love to one side as they focus on what is 'the truth' (Jesus said he is the truth, the short and simple answer), or a person who forgets what the bible said, hasn't memorised it, hasn't gone to church or followed any preachers word tenaciously, always got picked on for not knowing their scripture, but instinctively knows that they should extend their hand in kindness.

    To me it is the difference between being a steadfast robot, and being in the image of God which every person was born with but slowly erodes as they define self-image and self-intelligence. It's a fine line, trying to be more in line with God and unknowingly being more in line with your own beliefs. No-one has the same beliefs. Belief is fallible. But everyone has the same love which comes from God, which more often than not they forget brings us all together, and gives us the opportunity to bring us all together.

    We may all live in the same world, many of us speaking may be on the same island. But strangely, the way I have come to observe the internet is it brings a version of reality, that many of us are on separate islands. So then the internet which in some way brings us together, or gives us that opportunity, often gives precedence to being on an infinite amount of separate islands to each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahwatukee View Post
    Hello MJ007,

    Yes you are correct. The works of God are these, to believe in the One whom God sent, Jesus Christ, and to love one another. However, performing those does not justify compromising with God's word. We are to discern what is the truth and what is a false teaching, especially in these last days when the world is literally being inundated with false teachings. Regarding this Paul said:

    "Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!"

    And Jude also said:

    "
    Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

    The only way to know a false teacher, is to be completely familiar with the word of God, so that we can teach, contend, correct and rebuke.

    In these days it is not enough to discern between what is right and what is wrong, but what is right and what is almost right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj007 View Post
    What I am interested in, is, when did humans start to think about there being a God. That is a realistic question.
    If you believe the Bible, you know that people were thinking about God, and in relationship with God, right from the beginning. However, after the fall of humanity and all of creation, when Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden of Eden, Scriptures say that in the time of Seth's son Enosh, people began to call upon the name of the Lord.
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    If one has a loving mind with loving intention; does not it discern a far greater truth of knowing what is truth?


    I'm sorry, but this is just double talk now. It's this kind of thinking that mainstream evangelists are using to justify that Roman Catholicism as preaching the same gospel as they are, which couldn't be further from the truth. There are gospels many and Lord's many, but there is only one true gospel and one true Lord.

    If someone tells me that Mary is a co-redemer, co-savior and that I have to go through her to get to God, I'm going contend for the truth, that Jesus is the only mediator between God and man.

    If someone tells me that one can reach Nevana by being born over and over again until they are perfected, I'm going to contend for the truth of God's word and tell them the no man comes to the Father except through the Son.

    Only one way leads to life and that is through Jesus Christ, period!
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    This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit ....

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    The beast is the man of sin from the Roman Empire,for the Roman Empire has the dominion until God puts them down.

    The beast is the man of sin,a Gentile,and the false prophet will also be Gentile.

    The beast has 7 heads and 10 horns.

    1.Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4.Medo-Persia 5.Greece 6.Roman Empire 7.Ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.The ten horns hand their power over to the beast in the middle of the 7 years period,and that is how he gets control of the world,and the ten horns is the physical dominion of the beast kingdom.

    In Revelation 12 the crowns are on the heads,Satan in the spiritual realm deceiving by the 7 kingdoms.

    In Revelation 13 the crowns are on the horns,Satan deceiving in the physical realm for the ten horns is the physical dominion of the beast kingdom.

    God will give the world 7 years to have their way and cause all people who do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,and then He will put them down.

    The first three and one half years the world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,have a unified religious system,and the 7 years will start when the man of sin establishes peace in the Middle East,and they say Peace and safety,which then sudden destruction comes upon them,and they shall not escape.

    Problems,and chaos will ensue,and a war that causes one third of the population of the world to perish,and the ten horn kingdom failed at obtaining peace,and the world is crippled,without hope,and they turn to the beast for help,and the ten horns hand their power over to him,and he gets control of the world.

    One of the heads that were wounded as unto death,is the 7th head,the ten horn kingdom that failed at obtaining peace,and the world was crippled,without hope,but the beast spoke like no other person spoke understanding dark sentences,and saying things that gave the world hope,and the solution to achieve peace on earth,and restored order out of chaos,and the deadly wound was healed.

    He convinced the world that he harnessed the power of nature,and achieved power,and the second beast does miracles in the sight of people to convince them the beast did achieve power through nature,and shared this power with the second beast,and all the world wondered after the beast,saying who is like unto the beast,who is able to make war with him,believing he can establish his kingdom,and no foe can stop him.

    The deadly wound is the 7th head,the ten horn kingdom that failed at obtaining peace on earth,and the world was without hope,but the beast restored hope,and the deadly wound was healed.

    It has nothing to do with a person receiving a wound and recovering,and nobody from the past will be brought back to life to assume the position of either the beast,or the second beast.

    The man of sin will be the worse human ever in history,and Judas betrayed Jesus and was known as the son of perdition,and the beast will go against Jesus and all who hold the testimony of Jesus,and is known as the son of perdition.

    John F. Kennedy was a Roman Catholic,so I am sure he did not go against Jesus.

    The man of sin,the beast,will be of the occult,nature worship,and witchcraft,and acknowledge no God,but honors the God of forces,or the power of nature as his God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattforJesus View Post
    ........ John F. Kennedy was a Roman Catholic,so I am sure he did not go against Jesus. .......
    Currently you are a very deceived person.
    I strongly advise you get alone, get down on your knees, and ask Jesus to help your heart and mind.
    Then with belief, commence reading the NT as though your soul depends on you getting into THE truth. Cause it does.
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    Kissinger's name equates to '666' by a simple formula.
    That's funny... that you think Henry Kissinger is the anti-christ



    the Bible which stands for one religion has 2 versions of God, the Old and the New.
    No, God never changes... there are 2 covenants, the Old and the New which simply means God dealt with man one way under the old and under the New Jesus is the Judge and He is the Word of God come in the flesh.

    There are not 2 versions of God.



    Love really is the answer above all things
    And, there is a false love that looks really really real as it deceives millions right in to hell.



    John F. Kennedy was a Roman Catholic,so I am sure he did not go against Jesus.
    If he was a catholik in good standing then he prayed to mary which is idolatry.

    One cannot follow catholik teachings and expect to go to Heaven as it is a false religion that does not teach what God's Word teaches...

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    Consider that the context of the end times revolves around Israel. Israel will never submit to a gentile religious leader.

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    Default Re: Pope Francis: "In my own name"...

    Israel will never submit to a gentile religious leader.
    That's not true... in the name of peace they are going to be making covenant with the anti-christ not too many days hence.

    When you see a big agreement inked for peace between Israel and some nutjob who has figured out a way to get the enemies of Israel to lay down their arms (it will be short lived)... you'll know something is up.

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