Trump Leaked Classified Information to Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador

hornetguy · May 18, 2017

What was the context of that statement? I'm certain he DOES know more than the generals, about some topics. Or some aspects of topics. He certainly knows more about running a business than "the generals".

If he is privy to top secret plans, or intelligence information about a particular topic, then he by definition knows more than the generals. That is why he is "commander in chief".

If he says "I know more about military maneuvers and how to run the Army" then that would be wrong.

I KNOW that you believe in reading any scripture in context, and that you can make it say almost anything you want, by taking it OUT of context..... how about you do the same thing with "Trump quotes" ?

hornetguy · May 18, 2017

posthuman said:

And if those numbers are accurate, and not "tweaked" conveniently by CNN, then I think he is wrong for doing so. Or, perhaps he is simply following the example that Obama set?

posthuman · May 18, 2017

hornetguy said:

it's not as if CNN is the only outlet that reports this.

Slate:

Trump has already spent almost double Obama's annual travel budget.

TheHill:

Trump on pace to spend more in first year on travel than Obama did in 8 years | TheHill

BusinessInsider:

Trump on track to spend more on travel this year than Obama did in 8 - Business Insider

Fortune:

Trump Annual Travel Costs Could Surpass Obama's Entire Term | Fortune.com

NPR:

Trump's Travel Costs Add Up, Setting Him On Path To Outspend Obama : NPR

Newsweek:

Breaking Down All Of The Trump Family's Travel Costs And Lavish Expenditures

Vice:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/trump-could-potentially-spend-more-on-travel-in-one-year-than-obama-ever-did

etc etc etc

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is it surprising that you respond to these facts -- which are contrary to the narrative you're parroting -- is to ad-hominem attack CNN?

will you not believe it until you read it on FOX? the obvious GOP-shill outlet?

here you go:

Trump has spent approximately $10 million in travel expenses already, report says | Boston 25 News

but the well-known GOP-shill media prints fake news of their own, claiming Trump was at the white house working while he was actually out golfing on our dime:

Everyone's Laughing At This Fox News Tweet About Trump's 'Weekend Working' | HuffPost

((yes, it's huffpost link. if you want to ad-hominem them in response, want me to google 20 other sources confirming the same facts? because it's as simple to find lots more sources as a 2-second google search))

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i'm doing this because i don't want you to be a worldly partisan shill either.
look at facts.
be objective.

hornetguy · May 18, 2017

posthuman said:

I did read those facts, so there is no need to try to "put me in my place" or to insist that I "be objective". I mentioned the possibility that CNN might manipulate the "statistics", because I've witnessed them doing so. They are perhaps the best of the major news networks at accuracy, but they are still slanted heavily left. That is why I make allowances.... just look at their "polls", especially during election years if you want to see data manipulation.

I am willing, as I stated, to be ticked off at him for spending too much money playing... I think that is wrong. Perhaps what we need is a yearly "allowance" for pleasure trips/junkets for the presidential entourage. Presidential pleasure expenses have gone up exponentially since Reagan. We should demand that it stop. But I didn't hear any outcry from the liberal crowd that Obama and Michelle were spending too much money... so just where do YOU draw the line?

And, good job at making this all about how much money Trump is spending on pleasure. Now let's talk about serious issues, like the doubling/tripling of the deficit, or the mamby-pamby kowtowing to foreign heads of state, indicating subservience to them. Or the promotion of racial tension/divide in the country, along with the systemic slander and denigration of our police forces. Or the attempt at bringing in thousands upon thousands of young middle eastern men, disguised as "refugees", when any simpleton can see they are what they truly are.... militant Islamic radicals, who will in the very near future cause our nation serious damage.

hornetguy · May 18, 2017

and, I'm also sick to death of being "accused" of watching Fox news. (I don't)

Even if I DID watch it, you and your kind try to make it seem outrageous that anyone would watch it, since it is so "fake"... In reality, Fox is considerably less biased/incorrect to the right, than ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS are biased/incorrect to the left.

To ridicule someone for watching Fox is no more valid than ridiculing someone for watching one of those other MSM outlets.

..so save your elitist superiority for someone that gives a rip about it.

seed_time_harvest · May 18, 2017

hornetguy said:

No offense my friend but Trumps surrogates couldn’t have done a better job with the typical political clean-up speak.You were almost succesful In giving me a migraine with that one.

The context would be talking about knowing more than the generals about things,military maneuvers a president ,should know and not about buisness.

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

seed_time_harvest said:

Can you be truthful in admitting how many times you have said (or thought) that YOU know more about running a gigantic organization like the government than Trump does? Yet, are you anywhere near as successful running huge companies as he has been all his life?

Anyone smart enough NOT to telegraph future Military operations or policy positions makes me feel a lot safer than some of the yo-yo's we've had in that office. Our best presidents have never been wimpy little men who bowed and tried to satisfy all the politicians.

hornetguy · May 18, 2017

seed_time_harvest said:

You apparently somehow missed my second statement about top secret details that the President would know, that the generals would not.

Or, my third statement that said if Trump says he knows more about military workings and organizations than the generals, he would be wrong. Did you somehow just miss those statements? Are you that anxious to "prove" me to be a Trump robot?

I can certainly see how you could get a migraine, trying to twist words around to fit your pre-conceived notions about people.

seed_time_harvest · May 18, 2017

Willie-T said:

I might say occasionally,those guys don't know what they are doing and I might say I could do better but If I did say that,I wouldn't have been serious.Just out of curiosity,do you think Trump may have been just talking when he said he knows more than the generals because If he was then when should I consider what he just said Is sincerely from his heart

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I would never be so arrogant to say I know more than the generals.

Another question I would like to ask you Is,do you feel like success In the market Is the same as public service?

Willie-T said:

That's good and all but Trump does not know more than the generals.That's just wishful bragado on Trumps part.

seed_time_harvest · May 18, 2017

hornetguy said:

You apparently somehow missed my second statement about top secret details that the President would know, that the generals would not.

Or, my third statement that said if Trump says he knows more about military workings and organizations than the generals, he would be wrong. Did you somehow just miss those statements? Are you that anxious to "prove" me to be a Trump robot?

I can certainly see how you could get a migraine, trying to twist words around to fit your pre-conceived notions about people.

You might be partially correct,I'll look at It again.Lol

seed_time_harvest · May 18, 2017

hornetguy said:

seed_time_harvest said:

I looked at It again and the part about the surrogate could have sent your mind racing but the part about context was on point.

seed_time_harvest said:

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

seed_time_harvest said:

1: In reality, just about all of us say that we know more than others do when they do something stupid that we disagree with.

2. I feel it is better when you consider what the main thrust of the points that the electoral competition was about. I voted for someone who I felt could turn our economy around. I have been a businessman "in the market" all my life, and I can tell you, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that there are almost NO politicians who know how to stop the runaway financial disaster this country has been screaming toward for generations.

3. Yes, Trump was blowing hot air, for the most part. He would be well-served to learn a bit of diplomacy. But, given the choice of a man who tells it like he sees it, however bluntly and crudely, and one of our typical slimy political snakes (from either side of the aisle), I would vote for Trump any day.

Rockrz · May 18, 2017

Exactly... we only had two choices, trump or that baby killer!

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

Rockrz said:

We had 17 choices on the Republican side, and we selected Trump.

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

Rockrz said:

Would you rather have someone who exaggerates, over estimates, and sees the glass half-full... even when it isn't.... or would you rather have someone who lies about almost everything, just to benefit themselves?

RickyZ · May 18, 2017

Rockrz said:

As long as you believe that, we will continue to have losers from both sides in that office.

Rockrz · May 18, 2017

Wow! On my ballot for the presidential election they just had Trump, the baby killer, and a couple other folks nobody ever heard of.
Maybe the poll workers were just tryin to keep a brutha down

Yeah, like throwing away your vote on one of those other yahoos on the ballot is going to do anything seeing they have ZERO chance of wining anything much less the presidency!

God is allowing this nation to decend in to caos which is what the nation deserves after rejecting God with all the baby killing and sexual perversion among other things.

Sin is a reproach to any people... so it's all downhill from here.

This is actually a good thing cause some will get serious with God as things go bad, so some good will come out of it.

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

rz.................

You are going to have to be a lot more willing to do a whole lot more campaigning and give way more money than you do if you ever expect to see anyone other than a republican and a Democrat in the final election.

Even Bernie was bought off by the Democrats, and sold himself out to stand behind Hillary.

Willie-T · May 18, 2017

Rockrz said:

Wow! On my ballot for the presidential election they just had Trump, the baby killer, and a couple other folks nobody ever heard of.
Maybe the poll workers were just tryin to keep a brutha down

Yeah, like throwing away your vote on one of those other yahoos on the ballot is going to do anything seeing they have ZERO chance of wining anything much less the presidency!

God is allowing this nation to decend in to caos which is what the nation deserves after rejecting God with all the baby killing and sexual perversion among other things.

Sin is a reproach to any people... so it's all downhill from here.

This is actually a good thing cause some will get serious with God as things go bad, so some good will come out of it.

"This nation??????" Did you lie on your profile when you signed up?

Rockrz · May 18, 2017

I'm not from here... I'm just passing thru, so I don't really care what ya'll do!

No matter how you slice it... this nation is not going to be "turned around" simply because if it were, the one world government could not come forth cause we'd be standing in the way.

So, I think I'll go fishin

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