Trump commits to Israeli-Palestinian peace deal: 'We will do it'

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Katy-follower

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“And I want to support you in being the Palestinian leader who signs his name to the final and most important peace agreement that brings safety, stability, prosperity to both peoples and to the region,” Trump said. “I will do whatever is necessary to facilitate the agreement to mediate, to arbitrate anything they'd like to do, but I would love to be a mediator or an arbitrator or a facilitator and we will get this done.”

"I want to support you (Abbas) in being the Palestinian leader who signs his name to the final and most important peace agreement that brings safety, stability, prosperity to both peoples and to the region,” Trump said, adding that he’s committed to working with both sides to reach such an agreement, one that “cannot be imposed by the United States or by any other nation.”

"...with all of your effort, we believe that we can become -- we can be partners, true partners to you to bring about a historic peace treaty under your stewardship to bring about peace,” Abbas said.


Link --> Trump commits to Israeli-Palestinian peace deal: 'We will do it' - ABC News

Link --> Trump Heads To Israel And Will Be First Sitting President To Visit Western Wall : NPR


This seems to suggest that there will end up being a two state solution...

Joel 3:1-2: “For behold, in those days and at that time, When I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; And I will enter into judgment with them there On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also divided up My land"
 

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Daniel 9:26-27 mentions the 7 year covenant that will be broken half way through. But it says the prince to come will be of those who destroyed the temple, so the clue is he's of the Romans.

Maybe then... Trump will try and fail in getting this treaty signed, but maybe the pope will succeed?
 

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Or, maybe Trump will be successful in obtaining a peace treaty that will allow the young people to realize that no future in a continuously fighting each other and begin the peaceful development of the Middle East. It probably has nothing to do with the end times.

I pray that God will bring peace to this troubled area. I look forward to the day when the Gospel can be shared in that area without fear for the life of the one sharing it.
 

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Or, maybe Trump will be successful in obtaining a peace treaty that will allow the young people to realize that no future in a continuously fighting each other and begin the peaceful development of the Middle East. It probably has nothing to do with the end times.

I pray that God will bring peace to this troubled area. I look forward to the day when the Gospel can be shared in that area without fear for the life of the one sharing it.
Could be, but as I see it that would identify him as being the Antichrist, as it says the Antichrist will issue the covenant. But the scriptures do make clear that the person will be from the (revived) Roman empire (the 10 toes/kingdoms). Trump doesn't seem to match that.

I disagree about the peace. There will never be true peace until Jesus returns. But in the meantime there will be a false peace, as mentioned in Daniel and other books that speak of the last days. People in the world want peace and along will come a deceiver.

Israel wants peace, but the Palestinians do not. I believe it all comes down to the blessing that was given to Isaac and not Ishmael. There has been conflict between the two ever since. Jews and Christians believe God when He gave it to Isaac, but the muslims believe Ishmael was the true receiver of the blessing, therefore the Muslims believe the land of Israel belongs to them. Israel will never give up ALL of the land. And no peace contract will ever stop the war, since it's a spiritual battle we're dealing with and satan will continue to attack until the end.

The fact that Israel still stands is evidence to all that God keeps His promises.... the fact that Israel has not been wiped off the map and even became a nation in 1948 also. And that other nations would fall, but Israel still remains. Definitely would make satan angry.

Also, though God gave the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, the land does still belong to God. No man has any rights to touch the land/divide it up. Those who do will be judged for it, as God states in the scriptures He will judge those who scattered the Jews as well as those who divided up "MY" land, referring to the land as belonging to Him still.

Israel is like the prophetic time clock, which is why everyone is looking at what's going on in Israel currently. And this peace treaty is very significant as it seems to match with what Daniel says will happen.... a peace treaty that gets broken half way through. Israel will probably get a temple rebuilt as part of the deal, sacrifices will return, etc. There will be something in it for Israel, for them to agree to this. This is how the treaties work... Israel will get something in return for giving the Palestinians what they want. Would not be surprised to see many Jews making Aliyah when this happens (possibly also because of rising antisemitism in other places too).
 
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I pray that God will bring peace to this troubled area
Jesus said they would claim peace... and there would be no peace.

In fact, the anti-christ is going to deceive many thru the promise of peace so sounds like you could be drawn in to following the anti-christ if peace is all you are looking for in this world.

Peace will happen only when Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives, locks up satan, and starts His 100 Year Reign as King of the world... until then, there will be no peace.



that would identify him as being the Antichrist
Trump isn't the anti-christ... too many people hate him too much.

The anti-christ will be liked...
 
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Katy-follower

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Trump isn't the anti-christ... too many people hate him too much.

The anti-christ will be liked...
You misunderstood my post. I never said I believe it to be Trump. The scriptures say the 'man of sin' will be someone from the revived Roman empire, so Trump does not fit. I think it's more likely to be a pope.
 
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Ahwatukee

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Hello Katy-Follower and Billd,

Could be, but as I see it that would identify him as being the Antichrist, as it says the Antichrist will issue the covenant. But the scriptures do make clear that the person will be from the (revived) Roman empire (the 10 toes/kingdoms). Trump doesn't seem to match that.


I agree with you in that if this peace treaty that Trump is working on were the one spoken of in Dan.9:27, then, yes, that would make him the antichrist. I might also add that the agreement that the antichrist makes with Israel is for seven years. That said, this peace proposal that Trump is bringing is not mentioned as specifically being seven years in length.

In addition, the one who establishes the seven year agreement with Israel, will also be the one who receives that fatal wound and survives it. Just to give you an idea, the word "Thanatos" translated as fatal/mortal means that it is something that is not survivable. It is defined as being a "death stroke." His survival of this fatal wound is the beginning of the miraculous signs that will be for the purpose of deceiving the inhabitants of the earth, followed by the miracles, signs and wonders that the beasts side-kick, the false prophet, will be performing to give credibility to the first beast. Therefore, Trump would also have to be the one to receive that fatal wound.

The other issue is that, the church will have had to have been gathered prior to the revealing of the antichrist and his establishment of that seven year covenant.

This man that is coming will be like no one the world has ever seen. When that 5th trumpet is sounded, which will take place just prior to the middle of the seven years, that angel of the Abyss (Rev.9:14), will come up out of the Abyss and will be the power behind the antichrist, that man of lawlessness, with the beast/angel controlling him, will be the one who kills the two witnesses.

I disagree about the peace. There will never be true peace until Jesus returns. But in the meantime there will be a false peace, as mentioned in Daniel and other books that speak of the last days. People in the world want peace and along will come a deceiver.


I also agree in that, the covenant that the antichrist establishes with Israel will not be a true peace and that because, as scripture reveals, the antichrist will break that agreement in the middle of the seven years and will set up that abomination that causes the desolation of Jerusalem and is also when that antichrist/beast will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God or worshiped (2 Thes.2:4)

Israel wants peace, but the Palestinians do not. I believe it all comes down to the blessing that was given to Isaac and not Ishmael. There has been conflict between the two ever since.


The revealing of the antichrist and his receiving of that fatal wound, is going to play a big part in making it possible to appease Islam/Palistine to allow Israel to build her temple on the temple mount, because it will most his fatal wound will most likely be a sign to Islam that this is the Imam that they have been waiting for.
Rev.11:2 says "
But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles" I believe that this could be in reference to the dome of the rock ending up in the outer court after the temple is built on the temple mount.


In conclusion, I seriously doubt that Trump is the antichirst and that because he has been around for awhile and as you mentioned, he is not from that lineage of the seven Roman kings/emperors. And the church should not be here to see that antichrist make the seven year covenant.
 

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If Trump pulls off a peace deal it makes him the Antichrist as its been said he is hated by too many people to be him.
I think the Pope being him is unlikely. Where in the Bible does it say that an 80 year old Argentinian called Jorge Mario Berfoglio was the man? Doesnt sound Kosher to me.
 

Katy-follower

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If Trump pulls off a peace deal it makes him the Antichrist as its been said he is hated by too many people to be him.
I think the Pope being him is unlikely. Where in the Bible does it say that an 80 year old Argentinian called Jorge Mario Berfoglio was the man? Doesnt sound Kosher to me.
Exactly, it will be someone that is loved by so many, a deceiver.

The scriptures imply he will be a gentile, since the clue is that he will be of the people who destroyed the temple in the past (the Romans did this) (Daniel 9:26-27), and he will rise from the revived Roman empire (this is the empire we're currently in & it's the final kingdom on earth that will be destroyed by Christ)... the 10 toes/10 kingdoms of the statue mentioned in Daniel 2.

It's very possible that this Antichrist might claim to be from the line of David. This could be what convinces the Jews to accept him as their Messiah. Some gentiles have traced their ancestry back to Israel, particularly the line of King David!
 
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My view...the AC is Muslim...he will have no respect unto the God of HIS FATHERS....The Arabs and Muslims are tied directly to Abraham dia Ishmael.........I also personally believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week have been fulfilled in the ministry of Jesus to the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL...Daniel 12 is clear, there is exactly 1335 days left to deal with the people of Daniel!
 

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I remember reading an article in tomorrow's World magazine saying that the Antichrist mentioned in the bible will most likely be a pope. It actually makes sense because a pope is a religious leader who has political influence all over the world
 

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Jesus said they would claim peace... and there would be no peace.

In fact, the anti-christ is going to deceive many thru the promise of peace so sounds like you could be drawn in to following the anti-christ if peace is all you are looking for in this world.

Peace will happen only when Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives, locks up satan, and starts His 100 Year Reign as King of the world... until then, there will be no peace.





Trump isn't the anti-christ... too many people hate him too much.

The anti-christ will be liked...
...and loved. I agree with your estimation.
 
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How can Trump be the a-c when he can't even do anything about all the fake news?