Its an apparent Terrorist attack
Ariana Grande concert explosion: 19 dead, around 50 injured in 'terrorist incident' | Fox News
Ariana Grande concert explosion: 19 dead, around 50 injured in 'terrorist incident' | Fox News
19 Dead, 50 injured after an explosion at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester
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I keep saying it. The communities that develop and nurture and harbor these Isis terrorists are almost as guilty as the terrorist themselves. Can you imagine of you knew your son or nephew or grandson was giving you clear signs that he was going to do something violent, like shoot up a school or bomb a crowd, and you said or did nothing?
The bible makes it clear that if you know evil is being committed and do nothing, you are accountable.
The bible makes it clear that if you know evil is being committed and do nothing, you are accountable.
A female political blogger I follow on Facebook who I believe is libertarian had this to say:
"Something I'm re-learning/remembering in order to stay sane and at peace: the vast majority of people we disagree with, no matter how violent or dangerous their views may be, have good intentions and consciences.
It's so easy to look at people who see things differently than us with contempt... and to doubt their very humanity. But this mentality is ultimately how mass atrocities are committed -- seeing the other as less than human, thereby justifying crimes against humanity by empowering the State to silence them.
We eat ourselves from the inside out this way and stifle true communication.
We can't fault people for their indoctrination when many have been manipulated into holding beliefs that benefit the same ruling class that thrives off of our manufactured hatred for each other.
More love, more peace, less feeding into the negative emotions and perceptions of others when at their core they truly want to help (however misguided their strategies may be)."
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"Something I'm re-learning/remembering in order to stay sane and at peace: the vast majority of people we disagree with, no matter how violent or dangerous their views may be, have good intentions and consciences.
It's so easy to look at people who see things differently than us with contempt... and to doubt their very humanity. But this mentality is ultimately how mass atrocities are committed -- seeing the other as less than human, thereby justifying crimes against humanity by empowering the State to silence them.
We eat ourselves from the inside out this way and stifle true communication.
We can't fault people for their indoctrination when many have been manipulated into holding beliefs that benefit the same ruling class that thrives off of our manufactured hatred for each other.
More love, more peace, less feeding into the negative emotions and perceptions of others when at their core they truly want to help (however misguided their strategies may be)."
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A female political blogger I follow on Facebook who I believe is libertarian had this to say:
"Something I'm re-learning/remembering in order to stay sane and at peace: the vast majority of people we disagree with, no matter how violent or dangerous their views may be, have good intentions and consciences.
It's so easy to look at people who see things differently than us with contempt... and to doubt their very humanity. But this mentality is ultimately how mass atrocities are committed -- seeing the other as less than human, thereby justifying crimes against humanity by empowering the State to silence them.
We eat ourselves from the inside out this way and stifle true communication.
We can't fault people for their indoctrination when many have been manipulated into holding beliefs that benefit the same ruling class that thrives off of our manufactured hatred for each other.
More love, more peace, less feeding into the negative emotions and perceptions of others when at their core they truly want to help (however misguided their strategies may be)."
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"Something I'm re-learning/remembering in order to stay sane and at peace: the vast majority of people we disagree with, no matter how violent or dangerous their views may be, have good intentions and consciences.
It's so easy to look at people who see things differently than us with contempt... and to doubt their very humanity. But this mentality is ultimately how mass atrocities are committed -- seeing the other as less than human, thereby justifying crimes against humanity by empowering the State to silence them.
We eat ourselves from the inside out this way and stifle true communication.
We can't fault people for their indoctrination when many have been manipulated into holding beliefs that benefit the same ruling class that thrives off of our manufactured hatred for each other.
More love, more peace, less feeding into the negative emotions and perceptions of others when at their core they truly want to help (however misguided their strategies may be)."
Real love doesn't try not to "offend" anyone and try to make peace with everybody at the expense of living with darkness. That's anti-christ.
Real love is filled with the holy Spirit, it's courageous and moving. It doesn't easily offend NOR is it afraid to SPEAK OUT IN TRUTH because TRUE LOVE isn't FEARFUL. Your passiveness and definition of what you think love is, is not what God calls love.
Yeah... making excuses for killers just eggs them on...
They need to be put out of their bodies as this is the only way to stop them.
The koran teaches them to do thi, so it's not surprising... and, the koran teaches them to lie to futher their own cause so "communication" is not going to do anything.
All they understand is force just like what they put out.
This has prove to be true where muzlims are concerned for centuries!
Here here...
The sad thing is... more and more people are going liberal thinking these folks just need a hug.
What they need is serious military action against them and their families in their homelands
They need to be put out of their bodies as this is the only way to stop them.
The koran teaches them to do thi, so it's not surprising... and, the koran teaches them to lie to futher their own cause so "communication" is not going to do anything.
All they understand is force just like what they put out.
This has prove to be true where muzlims are concerned for centuries!
Here here...
The sad thing is... more and more people are going liberal thinking these folks just need a hug.
What they need is serious military action against them and their families in their homelands
Its not that they believe "differently" than we do thats the problem, its the fact that Muhammad made clear commands to make war with the unbeliever, to be unyielding with them and to let them find in you "hardness". The people who speak out against Islam are worried about the teachings of Islam, and solely blame Islam. Its not really a loving thing to speak out in defense of Islam.
If you were to do so for Muslims being unjustly attacked, that would be completely different. But any Muslim who commits murder in the name of allah, the teachings of Islam are entirely responsible for the attack.
And I was really sad to hear about this attack.
If you were to do so for Muslims being unjustly attacked, that would be completely different. But any Muslim who commits murder in the name of allah, the teachings of Islam are entirely responsible for the attack.
And I was really sad to hear about this attack.
I have read some posts on here and on other threads about terrorist atrocities and our reaction to them. I agree fully that terrorist groups like ISIS should be attacked and defeated wherever they are and anyone who commits an act of terrorism should be found and dealt with, by those who's job it is to do so. But there is a vast difference between that reaction and forming a lynch mob mentality where any Moslem is fair game and burning down Mosques and businesses is the norm That situation is exactly what the terrorists are attempting to create. In Manchester people are standing up to them by sticking together and carrying on with their lives. There is nothing ''liberal'' about that.
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I looked at some photos from the place. There are many Arabic titles or for example a billboard saying "vote for a new major - Mohammad Allam".
I am afraid that your country is being transformed and the terror will continue. It will look like Iraq more and more every day, as the percentage of "former colonies" descendants in population will grow.
Can you imagine "vote for John Doe for a new major" in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iraq or any African country except of SA?
The colonization begun again, but in the opposite direction.
I am afraid that your country is being transformed and the terror will continue. It will look like Iraq more and more every day, as the percentage of "former colonies" descendants in population will grow.
Can you imagine "vote for John Doe for a new major" in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iraq or any African country except of SA?
The colonization begun again, but in the opposite direction.
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You really need to live here to get a full perspective of the situation to know about it. Immigrants and their families make up a relatively small population in the UK and are concentrated in certain areas. In those areas you are going to have people standing for election which doesn't necessarily mean they all get elected. They are members of established political parties in any case. I would be more concerned if I were to live in France or Germany where most of the ethnic minorities are not even from their ex colonial countries or the EU come to that.
I understand that I would have to live in the UK to get a full picture. It can also differ in various cities or kingdoms and your city or country can be very different from Birmingham or London etc.
On the other hand, the major of London is a Muslim. Many main redactors of BBC are too. Can you imagine a white Christian to be a major in the capital of Pakistan or any middle-eastern country?
Their percentage is not so high, generally. But even now your country is still under some danger of inside attack and your freedoms are taken away one by one because of anti-terrorism counter measures.
And because they will not leave, but more will come and their families have much more children than the white British, the situation will not get better, only worse.
On the other hand, the major of London is a Muslim. Many main redactors of BBC are too. Can you imagine a white Christian to be a major in the capital of Pakistan or any middle-eastern country?
Their percentage is not so high, generally. But even now your country is still under some danger of inside attack and your freedoms are taken away one by one because of anti-terrorism counter measures.
And because they will not leave, but more will come and their families have much more children than the white British, the situation will not get better, only worse.