America must be first

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trofimus

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[video=youtube;th1lVACgc-s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1lVACgc-s[/video]

Obama was better behaved, right? I am afraid that Trump will make even more enemies and hostility towards Americans during his "reign" than there is now.
 
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No, people should be better behaved and realize two seconds of footage never tells the whole story.

Notice the expressions on the faces. If he was annoyed, that face would have shown up after the original smile.

How about not getting your news from YouTube videos that show two seconds of footage and loop it?

I do agree Trump is arrogant. I have yet to decide if he is equal to or more arrogant than our last President. It's a high record to break. In one of the first bipartisan meetings Obama ever had, McCann, (known for his middle-of-the-roadness), suggested something, and Obama said one of the last things he ever said to a Republican. "The last I checked, I was elected President of these United States."
 
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He could have been kidding,they could be friends like a locker room comradery,the guy did laugh and pat him on the back,if any president can evoke such repore among the most powerful figured in the world it would probably be him,after all he had the admiration of a rock star before he became the most powerful man in the world.
 

trofimus

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Notice the expressions on the faces. If he was annoyed, that face would have shown up after the original smile.

Yes, I noticed. Trump has a face of a typical bully.
The other president has a face of a typical weakling "oh, thats the American president, I must smile".

How about not getting your news from YouTube videos that show two seconds of footage and loop it?
I got it from Podívejte se, jak se Trump cpe, aby byl v záběru

But because you would not understand a word, I looked it up on youtube, just for you :)
 

Desertsrose

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Here's the real video.

[video=youtube;letS7RAO8oM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letS7RAO8oM[/video]
 

JosephsDreams

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I realize Trump has many flaws. Still, I would prefer him in a foxhole with me than about 90% of the other world leaders and politicians out there.
 

JosephsDreams

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Assuming, of course, I don't commit hari-kari after spending 12 hours in said foxhole and him talking about himself for 11 of those hours.
 

Magenta

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Here's the real video.

[video=youtube;letS7RAO8oM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letS7RAO8oM[/video]
Thank you for this. My deepest condolences to the loved ones of those who were fatally wounded in the Manchester blast. It is truly saddening, the type of tragedy that Trump seeks to eradicate, and he needs a hard line approach to do it, which his facial expression shows, knowing he is under great scrutiny and constant criticism.
 

JosephsDreams

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I saw this video yesterday. The gloom and oppressiveness of the Obama presidency have been replaced by optimism and joy with Trump.

Jesus is our example.
The creator of the universe. He knows every mathematical and scientific premise that we have discovered and millions, maybe billions and trillions, more. The one who speaks every language ever spoken with a mastery and comprehension none can come close to matching.
Yet he spoke plainly to us. He plainly told the phrases and Sadducees what they needed to hear, even though they would not listen.

I keep saying it. The fundamentals of life are enduring and simple. I am glad to have a president who cuts through all the unnecessary BullCrap and speaks plainly.
 
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I realize Trump has many flaws. Still, I would prefer him in a foxhole with me than about 90% of the other world leaders and politicians out there.
I see what you mean,one side you know Is wishy washy(Obama),the other side(Trump)will have you like a wreck Is about to happen wondering If or when he will throw you under the bus If he doesn't !like you.:p
 
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Yes, I noticed. Trump has a face of a typical bully.
The other president has a face of a typical weakling "oh, thats the American president, I must smile".


I got it from Podívejte se, jak se Trump cpe, aby byl v záběru

But because you would not understand a word, I looked it up on youtube, just for you :)
Let us pretend, just for a moment, that news agencies -- across the world -- aren't really propaganda machines for the left. (Just for a minute or two. It will be hard not to laugh hysterically if we suppressed the obvious thought going on as we pretend this.)

Now, go back to footage of any American President since... well? How about since Nixon? And tell me that's not the same stick-my-nose-up-in-the-air look Trump has. I can think of only one President that didn't do that since I was my full height. (I was my full height in about 1972.) George H.W. Bush.

Truth is there is something about being the American President that makes them all look like someone above hooked them in the nose and yanked! I don't know why. Absolutely hate it. Looks smug as all get-out. But that is American Presidentally as pointing with your knuckle, instead of you finger tip.

I'm with finallyfree. I tend to think they had been joking around shortly before hand, and we caught the tail-end of men's-locker humor. Then again, still not enough footage to know for sure.

We've had riots in the country over shortened footage. (Rodney King. Some thug in Ferguson, Missouri. Treyvon Martin.) I no longer buy shortened-footage.

And I stopped buying news reports since about 1990. And I stopped believing the majority of Americans have common sense of any kind in early April, 2016.

Got to tell you, if the world keeps thinking America is the World Police still, we're all screwed. Only worst thing than that is thinking the UN has any purpose whatsoever.
 
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Here's the real video.

[video=youtube;letS7RAO8oM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letS7RAO8oM[/video]
Better story than original, but I also don't buy that those world leaders were upset, smirking, or insulted. Frankly, Merck looks like what she always looks like. She's one lady I wouldn't want to play poker with. She only has one expression, and that's it. lol
 
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I realize Trump has many flaws. Still, I would prefer him in a foxhole with me than about 90% of the other world leaders and politicians out there.
How I'm picturing this from my viewpoint --
"Oh great! The 61 year old woman is the younger of the two in this foxhole. Why not just throw up a big flag with a bull's eye on it to kill the suspense. We're both goners anyway." lol
 

posthuman

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it's interesting that it was the prime minister of Montenegro who he shoved, at NATO, seeing that Montenegro recently ticked off Russia by joining NATO ((that is something Trump did himself sign off on, back in April)) - Russia called their accession "a provocation" since it challenges their influence in the Balkans. Montenegro in particular has been accusing the Russians of interfering in their own elections and politics, of hacking and trying to influence foreign policy decisions through espionage and coercion ((that is something Trump hasn't commented on)).

what's familiar about that?

i have to wonder if Trump is that sophisticated in his rudeness or if he's just generally petty about standing behind people, if it was overflowing attitude from his bossy speech, or whatever else was underneath what was recorded in the OP video.
 
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JosephsDreams

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"I have to wonder if Trump is that sophisticated in his rudeness or if he's just generally petty about standing behind people, if it was overflowing attitude from his bossy speech, or whatever else was underneath what was recorded in the OP video."

Probably a little of both.


 

posthuman

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Montenegro in particular has been accusing the Russians of interfering in their own elections and politics, of hacking and trying to influence foreign policy decisions through espionage and coercion ((that is something Trump hasn't commented on)).

what's familiar about that?
i should say, i'm not aware of Trump commenting on Montenegro's accusations against Russia. he might have and it not been widely reported.

& actually the accusations go beyond just meddling and espionage - it's believed that there was a Russian plot to assassinate the former Montenegrin prime minister in order to prevent them from joining NATO and presumably to install 'puppets' into their government. the attack was foiled just hours before it was to take place.

story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/russias-deadly-plot-overthrow-montenegros-government-assassinating/

one of the accused would-be-assassins is in this photograph with another face that seems familiar...

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fascinating stuff
 

Desdichado

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It doesn't look good. But it also does not seem to be the pattern abroad.
 

Desdichado

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My personal choice would be Viktor Orban. But I'm a bit of a hipster.

Assuming, of course, I don't commit hari-kari after spending 12 hours in said foxhole and him talking about himself for 11 of those hours.
 

posthuman

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My personal choice would be Viktor Orban. But I'm a bit of a hipster.
would it have to be a currently living world leader? because Teddy Roosevelt seems like just the man to share a foxhole with, to me.
 

Desdichado

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If they're dead and this is a platoon-level type of combat, I'm chilling with some Normans. Bohemond I, Robert Guiscard, and William the Conqueror.

Supposedly, Bohemond punched out a horse like Mongo from Blazing Saddles.

would it have to be a currently living world leader? because Teddy Roosevelt seems like just the man to share a foxhole with, to me.