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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela53510 View Post
    This hot off the presses of Babylon Bee this morning!


    Bernie Sanders Proposes Bill Forcing Christians Holding Public Office To Wear Scarlet Cross


    WASHINGTON, D.C.—Bernie Sanders is doubling down on his condemnation of Christians holding public office as “hateful.” According to reports from within the U.S. Senate, the Senator from Vermont proposed a bill Friday that would force Christians holding any kind of public office to wear a visible scarlet cross on their clothing at all times, in order to clearly identify themselves as hateful bigots.

    Dubbed the Hateful Bigot Identification Act, the bill would require anyone believing in salvation through Christ alone to wear the cross, in order that co-workers and citizens could immediately identify and disregard the opinions of the disgusting, backwards, religious public servants.
    “We have to know who to take seriously, and who’s a dangerous threat to our society,” Sanders said as he introduced the bill on the Senate floor. “By separating Christians from the rest of us, we’ll have finally achieved the religious liberty and tolerance the founding fathers dreamed of.”
    Sanders also stated that other religious people, such as Muslims, would be excluded from the act. “We’re only worried about the Christian bigots here,” he said.
    The Senate is projected to vote on the bill next week.


    NB Bb is satire!

    did you see this piece from The Federalist? written by the creator of Lutheran Satire, with links to non satirical articles.


    UPDATE: Unbelievable as it may seem, Sen. Bernie Sanders and I have developed a friendship in recent years — something I attribute to a common concern over the corrupting nature of super-wealth and a shared love for Ben and Jerry’s Redistribution of Fudge ice cream. Upset at the negative press he received over some recent comments, Sanders enlisted my help in acquiring a platform for defending himself before the American people. What follows are the words of Sen. Bernie Sanders. He totally wrote them, you guys. For serious.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders Defends His Attack On Christians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyd View Post
    Earlier today, I was toying with ideas to reduce the welfare rolls. One thing that crossed my mind was if you receive welfare benefits from the government, you must give up your right to vote. What do you think?

    I was making $839 a month from Disability when hubby became sick. Except, we didn't know he was sick. We thought he was depressed for over a year. (Somewhere in that year, he started thinking he was dying, but he didn't tell me that.) By the time we found out what was wrong with him, (HepC), we had run through our savings account and our retirement account. Oh, and his COBRA insurance ran out. Sooo, he started chemotherapy when $839 was coming into the house.

    We went on Welfare for that time between him applying for Disability and getting it. (They gave us insurance and food stamps. We didn't qualify for any more money though. At best, they would have given us $300 a month, if we had absolutely no money coming in. If we had $10 coming in? That would have been $290 they gave us. $100? Then they would have given us $200. That's how it works.)

    Question for you:
    Who do you think deserves more of a vote in America -- people who don't need the government, or those that do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notuptome View Post
    The founding fathers limited voting to property owners. I think it would be interesting if only those who pay taxes were able to vote. Certainly would reshape the political landscape.

    For the cause of Christ
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    Name one person in the US who doesn't pay any taxes. (Hint: Income tax isn't the only tax. There is user tax, sales tax, services tax, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by notuptome View Post
    Guards against those who will not work from robbing the treasury of the diligent.

    The founding fathers warned against this very thing. Redistribution of wealth is not a Godly principal.

    For the cause of Christ
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    Thank you for guarding against us evil disabled and/or retired folks! Whew! What would America look like if you didn't guard it against us?
    Lynn

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    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    did you see this piece from The Federalist? written by the creator of Lutheran Satire, with links to non satirical articles.


    UPDATE: Unbelievable as it may seem, Sen. Bernie Sanders and I have developed a friendship in recent years — something I attribute to a common concern over the corrupting nature of super-wealth and a shared love for Ben and Jerry’s Redistribution of Fudge ice cream. Upset at the negative press he received over some recent comments, Sanders enlisted my help in acquiring a platform for defending himself before the American people. What follows are the words of Sen. Bernie Sanders. He totally wrote them, you guys. For serious.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders Defends His Attack On Christians
    Sorry. He lost his credibility when he said he liked fudge ice cream.

    (Oddly, I love chocolate, but not in anything creamy.
    )
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    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post

    I was making $839 a month from Disability when hubby became sick. Except, we didn't know he was sick. We thought he was depressed for over a year. (Somewhere in that year, he started thinking he was dying, but he didn't tell me that.) By the time we found out what was wrong with him, (HepC), we had run through our savings account and our retirement account. Oh, and his COBRA insurance ran out. Sooo, he started chemotherapy when $839 was coming into the house.

    We went on Welfare for that time between him applying for Disability and getting it. (They gave us insurance and food stamps. We didn't qualify for any more money though. At best, they would have given us $300 a month, if we had absolutely no money coming in. If we had $10 coming in? That would have been $290 they gave us. $100? Then they would have given us $200. That's how it works.)

    Question for you:
    Who do you think deserves more of a vote in America -- people who don't need the government, or those that do?
    I stand properly chastised.

    I consider welfare as payments to those who are able to work, but choose not to. The disabled should never have to go on welfare. I based my comment on that.

    Every time I propose a single payer health care system, I get chastised by many of my fellow Christians. With single payer health care, I believe that the situation you and John are trapped in would not have happened. I guess if we are ever going to get to that point, we are going to have to let those who need it most vote. So I must retract my Idea.

    An interesting aside. The actual voting rate among those who receive actual (what I call) welfare is low.

    Thanks for the reply. Both of you are always in our prayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyd View Post
    I stand properly chastised.

    I consider welfare as payments to those who are able to work, but choose not to. The disabled should never have to go on welfare. I based my comment on that.

    Every time I propose a single payer health care system, I get chastised by many of my fellow Christians. With single payer health care, I believe that the situation you and John are trapped in would not have happened. I guess if we are ever going to get to that point, we are going to have to let those who need it most vote. So I must retract my Idea.

    An interesting aside. The actual voting rate among those who receive actual (what I call) welfare is low.

    Thanks for the reply. Both of you are always in our prayers.
    To go on Welfare you have to wait in a waiting room for hours. I looked around. There were roughly 100 people waiting with us that day.

    50% of the people waiting were Caucasianish. (Can't really tell who people are by their features, given Eastern Europeans, Western Asians, Northern Africans, and Caribbeans nations can seem Caucasian but may not be. Or, they may be.) 50% were old. 30% brought their young children. Some really did look healthy, but I look healthy too. (John was on chemo that day, and in such bad shape that our intake SW told him, "Acting sick doesn't make it any more likely to get on Welfare." John told him it wasn't an act. And, he was so sick, I sometimes had to repeat the SW's questions because he couldn't concentrate long enough to hear everything being said. So, he definitely didn't look healthy.)

    We live in Philly, so that's the Welfare office for this city, and Caucasian is the minority here. I got the impression most of the folks there had moved to America and then hit hard times, an unexpected health issues snicked up on them, or they had little kids so couldn't afford to go to work and to pay for childcare at the same time. I could pick out 1-2 that had probably been abusing alcohol or drugs before that day, but that's not the full picture either. By the very nature of the illness, people who are insane don't know they are insane. Yet they know something is wrong with their lives, so they self-medicate. So, let's say one of the two people who did abuse drugs was sane.

    I know it seems like it's that old story with Welfare families, but that scenario died out with Welfare-to-Work, unless Obama changed that law since Clinton's Presidency. (Bush wouldn't.) But at that time, the only way you could go on Welfare was by telling the SW your plan to get off Welfare. Because of that, John had to apply for SSDI before ever going to that waiting room. Disability was our exit strategy to get off Welfare. Everyone waiting had to have their plan too, or they wouldn't get it.

    As for one-payer healthcare helping us? We did go there mostly because John's drugs for chemo would have cost us $3500 a month. So, yup. Definitely needed Medicaid. BUT living on $839 a month with a $550 mortgage, and $250ish for utilities. Utilities doesn't cover internet access, and when two people have health problems learning about the health problems is best done online. Food stamps is for food only. I don't know about you, but I like using toilet paper, soap, detergent, deodorant, and paper napkins. That we had to pay on our own. And none of that's covered under single-payer health coverage.

    Oh, BTW. We're much richer now. We're off Welfare. lol
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    Young healthy people hit hard times too. It isn't just sick people and immigrants.
    My hubby and I are healthy and young, yet a few times we hit rock bottom. The only way to eat was to get food stamps and the only way to get care for our kids was mainecare and the only place to sleep was the spare bedroom of a relative. We always worked hard to find job(s) that would help get us out of the predicaments. We did ok for a year, with help from FS and MC. Hubby had a job and we got an apartment. But then he lost the job and we were jobless and homeless again.
    We came back to Alaska because we couldn't make it anywhere else. Now, hubby has a job and we live in company housing and we live the subsistance lifestyle while supplimenting with online grocery stores.
    The point is that some healthy, young people need that leg up, a "boost", to get over a hump in the road. That was the case with us.
    That being said, I also know PLENTY of capable people who abuse the wellfare system. Young women having children every 2 yrs to get helps, trading food and formula bought with food stamps and WIC for drugs and favors. And before you ask why I haven't reported any of them, I have and nothing is done about it.
    Anyways, if you take voting away from people like me and my hubby and Lynn and her hubby, then you make a lot of things worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    did you see this piece from The Federalist? written by the creator of Lutheran Satire, with links to non satirical articles.


    UPDATE: Unbelievable as it may seem, Sen. Bernie Sanders and I have developed a friendship in recent years — something I attribute to a common concern over the corrupting nature of super-wealth and a shared love for Ben and Jerry’s Redistribution of Fudge ice cream. Upset at the negative press he received over some recent comments, Sanders enlisted my help in acquiring a platform for defending himself before the American people. What follows are the words of Sen. Bernie Sanders. He totally wrote them, you guys. For serious.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders Defends His Attack On Christians

    So Bernie believes only universalists are the right Christians? And we should be intolerant to Christians who believe faith in Christ is necessary to get to heaven?

    It's too bad Bernie is not Canadian! He wouldn't have to worry about health care, and he could get funding from the various ultra left wing American organizations that are under investigation for throwing the last election.

    On second thought, you can keep him. You have better controls in place, and I'm just not feeling like being cast to the lions, gladiators or whatever Trudeau and his Liberals can devise to get rid of Bible believing Christians, at the moment!
    "And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me." 2 Cor. 12:9 NASB

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrimp View Post
    Young healthy people hit hard times too. It isn't just sick people and immigrants.
    My hubby and I are healthy and young, yet a few times we hit rock bottom. The only way to eat was to get food stamps and the only way to get care for our kids was mainecare and the only place to sleep was the spare bedroom of a relative. We always worked hard to find job(s) that would help get us out of the predicaments. We did ok for a year, with help from FS and MC. Hubby had a job and we got an apartment. But then he lost the job and we were jobless and homeless again.
    We came back to Alaska because we couldn't make it anywhere else. Now, hubby has a job and we live in company housing and we live the subsistance lifestyle while supplimenting with online grocery stores.
    The point is that some healthy, young people need that leg up, a "boost", to get over a hump in the road. That was the case with us.
    That being said, I also know PLENTY of capable people who abuse the wellfare system. Young women having children every 2 yrs to get helps, trading food and formula bought with food stamps and WIC for drugs and favors. And before you ask why I haven't reported any of them, I have and nothing is done about it.
    Anyways, if you take voting away from people like me and my hubby and Lynn and her hubby, then you make a lot of things worse.
    I understand what you are saying.

    I humbly withdraw my idea.

    Maybe we need a discussion on Christian responsibility in help of those in need. I'll think and pray on it.

    Thanks for your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrimp View Post
    Young healthy people hit hard times too. It isn't just sick people and immigrants.
    My hubby and I are healthy and young, yet a few times we hit rock bottom. The only way to eat was to get food stamps and the only way to get care for our kids was mainecare and the only place to sleep was the spare bedroom of a relative. We always worked hard to find job(s) that would help get us out of the predicaments. We did ok for a year, with help from FS and MC. Hubby had a job and we got an apartment. But then he lost the job and we were jobless and homeless again.
    We came back to Alaska because we couldn't make it anywhere else. Now, hubby has a job and we live in company housing and we live the subsistance lifestyle while supplimenting with online grocery stores.
    The point is that some healthy, young people need that leg up, a "boost", to get over a hump in the road. That was the case with us.
    That being said, I also know PLENTY of capable people who abuse the wellfare system. Young women having children every 2 yrs to get helps, trading food and formula bought with food stamps and WIC for drugs and favors. And before you ask why I haven't reported any of them, I have and nothing is done about it.
    Anyways, if you take voting away from people like me and my hubby and Lynn and her hubby, then you make a lot of things worse.
    My late wife was on Mainecare. I agree with you, the State of Maine is not the best place to be if you are of working age. Spent 8 years in that miserable state in a crummy little city called Rockland. Didn't qualify for food stamps because I made too much (not really). I remarried a couple years ago and my wife and I want to visit Alaska one day. I currently reside in Florida. Thank God.
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    I do not believe that this article from the Bumble Bee should have been posted. It reads as though it might be legitimate news but can lead to misinformation and rumor. I, for one, did not pick up on the disclaimer at the bottom saying that it is satire. In an effort to police dubious information, snopes.com and politifact.com felt compelled to refute the article as fake news. We should be committed, as Christians, to speaking the truth; there was no justifiable reason to print this article in detail in a Christian post. There is plenty to say about Bernie Sanders without unwarranted attacks upon his character.
    (Exo 20:16) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

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    I saw a partial video where he was trying to trap the man into being an "Islamaphobe" by quoting him where he said Muslims are condemned already
    That's why nobody will ever nominate me for anything cause... I'd just come right out and say it on national television... "if a man is not born again thru Jesus Christ, he will burn in hell!"



    Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Think Christians Are Fit For Public Office
    Well, true Christians know bernie ain't fit for public office... or for much of anything for that matter



    I threw out the writings of Moses because he killed that Egyptian guy.
    God spoke thru Moses... so this is a stupid thing to do




    I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
    Yeah, like voting is going to do anything good going forward anyway... nothing good is coming politically from here on out, you guys know that right?



    sounds like a plot to keep the poor from voting, thus keeping the wealthy in power
    It would be better for the country... look at ho fast we be going down hill... ebonics and all!





    I wanted to vote for Trump but my wife said that if I did that I would be sleeping on the couch.
    That's ungodly! The man should be the leader of the household... I would have slept on the couch!

    And, if she wants to start a bunch of fighting over it, I'd tell her to shape up or ship out!

    I'd be better off without a woman like that, one that usurps authority over her husband.

    Only thing worse than that is a husband that allows it. This is not how God intended marriage to be.

    Besides, who said you had to tell her who you voted for? Just tell her it's a private matter between you and the Lord and smile real big!



    Yeah, I know but calling him a communist sounds funnier.
    Same difference... socialism leads to communism so it's all satanic
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