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Thread: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'an

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    Default Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'an

    Muslim fanatics connected to the IS, who occupy the Philippine city of Marawi, were murdering the non-Muslim inhabitants there.

    Extremists, according to the survivors, walked from house to house, and if someone mistakenly answered questions about the Quran, they shot him.

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    Islamisté na Filipínách vraždili křesťany, když neznali verše z Koránu - iDNES.cz
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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    Muslims there also assisted Christian in escaping by lending them hijabs to disguise themselves.

    I always say that you don't gotta be Christian to be good folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imfinallyfree View Post
    Muslims there also assisted Christian in escaping by lending them hijabs to disguise themselves.

    I always say that you don't gotta be Christian to be good folk.
    But isnt that because they are not obeying the quran?
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    Quote Originally Posted by imfinallyfree View Post
    Muslims there also assisted Christian in escaping by lending them hijabs to disguise themselves.

    I always say that you don't gotta be Christian to be good folk.
    Those are false muslims who would be executed by true muslims as hipocrites.. For being friends with Christians and helping them.. The quran declares that any muslim who is friends with a Christian or a jew is on of them and is a false muslim..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infusion View Post
    But isnt that because they are not obeying the quran?
    Quran 9:29 - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (People of the book = Christians and Jews)

    Yep...

    I know people think theyre doing a good deed by defending Islam, saying that there are bad people in Christianity, too. But pretending that there is no calls for violence in Islam does not help anyone.

    It would be better to proactively teach everyone about these verses, so that more people would be willing to turn away from Islam. But too many people think the most important thing in the world is to always get along and never disagree.
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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    You all mixed up as usual.

    I ain't talkin bout their religion I'm talking bout the people...the individual.
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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    Quote Originally Posted by Infusion View Post
    But isnt that because they are not obeying the quran?
    And I don't even understand what you sayin.

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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    Maybe thems individual is realize that they don't want to adhere to they gang practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imfinallyfree View Post
    You all mixed up as usual.

    I ain't talkin bout their religion I'm talking bout the people...the individual.

    I agree with you 1000%, it is not the "Muslim" that is evil, it is Islam. I also agree with the others here that are saying these people that do not want to kill the Christians are being very bad Muslims, and they will be killed themselves if caught aiding these people. There is another verse in the Hadiths that deals with this very issue in Mohammed's day AYAH al-Baqarah 2:216
    Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.

    This was said because for this reason, the believers were being asked to kill those around them that did not believe, they knew these people and didn't want to kill them, but were told "there may be something you don't like that is good for you, or something you do like that is bad for you, but regardless Allah knows and you do not, so do what Allah says and kill these neighbors of yours". Crazy huh? That said it just shows a glimpse of the evil in Islam in contrast to our God given conscious, and I again must make the distinction between the Muslim and the evil Islam. Imagine being born into that situation, my heart hurts for these people and I pray God pull them into Himself and truth. I praise His name He can use these people to help our brothers and sisters.
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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    I'm a Christian that was baptized at birth so I was born into this situation also.

    Someone just ran some folk down at a mosque?

    I bet that they a religious fanatic maybe a Christian.

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    Default Re: Islamists in the Philippines murdered Christians when they did not know the Qur'a

    Quote Originally Posted by imfinallyfree View Post
    I'm a Christian that was baptized at birth so I was born into this situation also.

    Someone just ran some folk down at a mosque?

    I bet that they a religious fanatic maybe a Christian.
    Really? You think a reborn, Holy Spirit indwelt, true Christian is going to kill for Christ? Is that what Jesus ordered us to do? Also if you think being born a Christian, or being baptized at birth makes you a Christian, and even more if you think a real Christian just drove a van into people, then you have some MAJOR misunderstandings of what makes a, and what being a Christian is.
    Please don't take my comments as an attack, I had no clue what a Christian was until God showed me too, I thought I knew what it was for years before I was shown (by Him), it's not just a title, or a nice philosophy, becoming a Christian is a life changing, undeniable, supernatural event, not something you're born into, or say the secret passwords to "get in".

    I guess that would have to be my only question for you, what do you think makes one a Christian?
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