Capitalism and greed

[RickyZ]

From the flood areas in Texas:





But consider - a single bottle of water in a movie theater or airport will set you back at least $3.50, making that 24 pack cost $84. Greed is greed no matter where you find it.

Of course Trumpsters and republicans will salute this as capitalism at it's finest, and some like nutm will say if you can't afford it move somewhere else...

 

[hornetguy]

Of course Trumpsters and republicans will salute this as capitalism at it's finest, and some like nutm will say if you can't afford it move somewhere else...

That is a spectacularly incorrect and unfair thing to say..... shame on you.

I am a lifelong conservative, and am overall happy with the way President Trump is doing the job.... but anyone that would take advantage of a crisis like this deserves to be horsewhipped at the very least.

Your stereotyping is beneath contempt.

 

[tourist]

From the flood areas in Texas:

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But consider - a single bottle of water in a movie theater or airport will set you back at least $3.50, making that 24 pack cost $84. Greed is greed no matter where you find it.

Of course Trumpsters and republicans will salute this as capitalism at it's finest, and some like nutm will say if you can't afford it move somewhere else...

This isn't capitalism, it is price gouging. If I were a regular customer there I would go somewhere else and not come back.

 

[kaylagrl]

From the flood areas in Texas:

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But consider - a single bottle of water in a movie theater or airport will set you back at least $3.50, making that 24 pack cost $84. Greed is greed no matter where you find it.

Of course Trumpsters and republicans will salute this as capitalism at it's finest, and some like nutm will say if you can't afford it move somewhere else...

Ummm this is against the law. This happened in our state years ago when we had an ice storm. When it was all said and done those that gouged the public were penalized for it.

 

[kaylagrl]

That is a spectacularly incorrect and unfair thing to say..... shame on you.

I am a lifelong conservative, and am overall happy with the way President Trump is doing the job.... but anyone that would take advantage of a crisis like this deserves to be horsewhipped at the very least.

Your stereotyping is beneath contempt.

Exactly,couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[RickyZ]

That is a spectacularly incorrect and unfair thing to say..... shame on you.

I am a lifelong conservative, and am overall happy with the way President Trump is doing the job.... but anyone that would take advantage of a crisis like this deserves to be horsewhipped at the very least.

Your stereotyping is beneath contempt.

C'mon, I just got off a thread where people were saying those very things.

One guy lashed out at people who have been flooded out by complaining that it increases his insurance rates. I'm just waiting for him to rail against those who accept disaster relief, because it increases his taxes. Ok, it's an assumption on my part to say he's a republican / trump supporter but ... prove me wrong. Yeah I probably could have left that part out, and for the record I'd be just a critical if it were Hillary. We'd be screwed either way. But until this spirit of me-me-me is cast out of our society, Ima gonna call them as I see them. People have bought in hook line and sinker to the lies of BOTH sides and it needs to be exposed!

 

[Billyd]

From the flood areas in Texas:

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But consider - a single bottle of water in a movie theater or airport will set you back at least $3.50, making that 24 pack cost $84. Greed is greed no matter where you find it.

Of course Trumpsters and republicans will salute this as capitalism at it's finest, and some like nutm will say if you can't afford it move somewhere else...

Price gouging is illegal in Florida, these prices would cost the owner $1000 (up to $25,000/24 Hrs) for each sale. Personally, I support removing the limit.

 

[RickyZ]

Price gouging is illegal in Florida, these prices would cost the owner $1000 (up to $25,000/24 Hrs) for each sale. Personally, I support removing the limit.

Absolutely; someone trying to gouge like that deserves to be looted

But still, we pay twice as much as that at many places and don't bat an eye..?

 

[Huckleberry]

C'mon, I just got off a thread where people were saying those very things.

One guy lashed out at people who have been flooded out by complaining that it increases his insurance rates.

You're a bald-faced liar.
I "lashed out" at you because you said something retarded.

Flood insurance needs to be morphed into a national disaster insurance ...
... and if you've ever requested a quote you'd know why so few people carry it.

Hogwash!
You want to live where flooding is likely or known to occur, you pay the piper.
Why should I pay higher insurance rates because you want to live near water?

 

[zeroturbulence]

Capitalism has nothing to do with raising prices! It's about having a free market where anyone can open a business and there is competition between businesses to attract customers. If anything, capitalism LOWERS prices as competitors undercut the competition to try and win over customers.

What we have now in this country are megalopolies (monopolies comprised of a handful of big businesses that control the lion's share of the market)

Examples of megalopolies: Banks, airlines, oil companies, phone carriers, insurance companies....

There needs to be more competition in the marketplace. These big companies hold all the cards and can raise prices all they want because they have no real competition.
That's not capitalism, that's closer to socialism where you have no choices and no control over what you get or how much it costs.

 

[mj007]

And where do megalopolies come from? They come from a Capitalist model! The problem with Capitalism is that it means that someone is always suffering to an extreme financially compared to someone who is extremely wealthy.

This is why you have poverty, when there is enough money to go around.

The question with Capitalism, is if it is for some 'big dream' where we all end up in a great place, then when is that time, or is that the carrot on a stick for everyone?

Whatever model exists, it will be exploited to the highest extreme. There should be a cap on monopoly. Every model has good about it, even communism.

Mix them all together and you get a more perfect model.

Even religious belief systems are models on how to view God and society (and there is only one God regardless, it just depends how you view God based on the model).

In Sharia law, charging interest on loans is banned. In fact, charging interest on things was the rise of capitalism, suddenly making money out of money, eureka said the fat cat!

Money should be lent to help out, not to make you a monetary slave.

Do you remember the last time products were generally made to last forever? Spend, spend, spend. Consumerism, capitalism, someone gets much fatter while others die. America even charges for healthcare... a rich country charges for healthcare!! Have money or die! So glad I have the NHS.

Capitalism has nothing to do with raising prices! It's about having a free market where anyone can open a business and there is competition between businesses to attract customers. If anything, capitalism LOWERS prices as competitors undercut the competition to try and win over customers.

What we have now in this country are megalopolies (monopolies comprised of a handful of big businesses that control the lion's share of the market)

Examples of megalopolies: Banks, airlines, oil companies, phone carriers, insurance companies....

There needs to be more competition in the marketplace. These big companies hold all the cards and can raise prices all they want because they have no real competition.
That's not capitalism, that's closer to socialism where you have no choices and no control over what you get or how much it costs.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It is a complete fallacy to promote the idea that capitalism is the root cause of greed (as in the title). The Bible makes it quite clear that the love of money is the root cause. And if people think that Socialists, Communists and Anarchists (their elite) are not greedy, they should do some more research.

Capitalism is simply an economic system which should ideally result in a free market where private owners operate for profit (which is not a dirty word). However, since governments are constantly interfering with the free market, and also engaging in crony capitalism, the true meaning of capitalism has been lost.

Communism, which came onto the world scene to destroy capitalism, ultimately showed its true colors by collapsing in every country. Therefore Communist China has in reality become a capitalist country, even though it is now state capitalism, instead of state communism.

 

[kaylagrl]

And where do megalopolies come from? They come from a Capitalist model! The problem with Capitalism is that it means that someone is always suffering to an extreme financially compared to someone who is extremely wealthy.

This is why you have poverty, when there is enough money to go around.

The question with Capitalism, is if it is for some 'big dream' where we all end up in a great place, then when is that time, or is that the carrot on a stick for everyone?

Whatever model exists, it will be exploited to the highest extreme. There should be a cap on monopoly. Every model has good about it, even communism.

Mix them all together and you get a more perfect model.

Even religious belief systems are models on how to view God and society (and there is only one God regardless, it just depends how you view God based on the model).

In Sharia law, charging interest on loans is banned. In fact, charging interest on things was the rise of capitalism, suddenly making money out of money, eureka said the fat cat!

Money should be lent to help out, not to make you a monetary slave.

Do you remember the last time products were generally made to last forever? Spend, spend, spend. Consumerism, capitalism, someone gets much fatter while others die. America even charges for healthcare... a rich country charges for healthcare!! Have money or die! So glad I have the NHS.

Capitalism,done correctly,is the best system the world has seen to date. Im not talking about misuse or abuse.Done the right way there is no form of gov't found to work better as yet.

 

[Billyd]

If you think that capitalism is bad, I suggest that you go to the supermarkets in countries like North Korea, Cuba, Valenzuela, etc. That's what the anti capitalism model gets you.

 

[gb9]

it's funny that people who beg for socialism don't want to talk about the conditions of these countries.

 

[Billyd]

it's funny that people who beg for socialism don't want to talk about the conditions of these countries.

What interests me about people who desire to live under socialism/communism never think about the fact that every one of these countries are run by dictators who have squirreled away more money that the entire GNP of the country.

At least with capitalism, we have the ability to elect our thieves, and sooner or later we put them in jail.

 

[Huckleberry]

In Sharia law, charging interest on loans is banned. In fact, charging interest on things was the rise of capitalism, suddenly making money out of money, eureka said the fat cat! Money should be lent to help out, not to make you a monetary slave.

Who gives a rip about Sharia law?
The Bible, which is our law, says it is okay to charge
interest on borrowed money, except within your family.
It also says that the borrower is slave to the lender.
Don't want to be a slave? Don't borrow money! Pretty simple.
Your Marxist paradigm is unbiblical.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If you think that capitalism is bad, I suggest that you go to the supermarkets in countries like North Korea, Cuba, Valenzuela, etc. That's what the anti capitalism model gets you.

What Americans should understand is that ever since the Democrats lost the recent elections, they have chosen to adopt Marxist-Leninism and Anarchism (with the help of people such as George Soros). BLM and Antifa are symptoms. The destruction of statues all over America is an indication that they want to destroy America altogether and replace constitutional government with anarchy. This has actually become quite serious and is not being addressed properly. Attacking capitalism is an attack on law and order as well as all constitutional liberties and guarantees. Free speech is under severe attack.

 

[PennEd]

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Here's Rick's socialism and dictatorship he yearns for. A more than fair comparison to the junk he posted. AND these people are only enduring economic trouble, NOT a hurricane.

 

[hornetguy]

a rich country charges for healthcare!! Have money or die! So glad I have the NHS.

Yes.... I'm glad you have the NHS, too. Just keep it over there.

My brother and his wife were very glad to have the NHS..... until she needed a surgery that would not be available/affordable for them... so they had to come back home to the greedy ol' US, so that she could get her potentially life-saving surgery.

Sometimes, it's "have lowest denominator FREE health care, and die"

Or, my buddy in Canada, who tore his rotator cuff.... he said he was on "the list" to get an MRI.... he could expect to get one in about 5 or 6 weeks.

I hurt my shoulder being stupid in Cancun, and had an MRI done the first day we were back home.

Yeah, our health care system sucks.... you guys have it so good.... I mean, "free"....