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...the kids saying "Allah," "Mohammad," "Muslim," or "Buddha."
[video]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/30/teacher-dear-parents-tell-your-kids-to-stop-talking-about-god.html[/video]
[video]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/30/teacher-dear-parents-tell-your-kids-to-stop-talking-about-god.html[/video]
Also., just heard on FoxNews tonight that a 1st grader got in trouble for saying hi to one of her friends on the playground she hadn't seen in a while but used the wrong "pronoun" Apparently the other child "changed" genders and the 1st grader didn't know that she was by law expected to use the "proper PC" pronoun. The parents took her out of the school after the child and family were told they were going to be investigated. ARRGGGHHHH!!! At times watching the news is toooooo frustrating!
I seriously believe we are living in the days Jesus will be coming for His bride!! So in that knowledge I can rejoice and still say; AMEN and YAAAHOOOO!!!
I seriously believe we are living in the days Jesus will be coming for His bride!! So in that knowledge I can rejoice and still say; AMEN and YAAAHOOOO!!!
Sorry Jennie., no joke. Even though FoxNews is not perfect., it's better than the other main stream media stations like CNN ABC NBC PBS Fox has Judge Jeanne Perro and Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson who are more conservative normal thinking people. Not the wacky liberal kind that fight for antifa or blm or Islam political correctness that glorifies the far left with such things like getting a 1st grader in trouble for not being PC and not using the proper "pronoun"
My former post didn't post correctly, here it is in fullness:
Link? I searched for this on Fox couldn't find it.
The last days started at the Cross. The message is still "Repent, and believe the Gospel."
Some today don't believe repentance is necessary which is gravely errant, leading people astray. That type of errant message would say to this poor child there is no need to repent of your lifestyle of sin, contrary to 1 Corinthians 6:9ff, and that all the child need do is assent to facts about the Gospel. The child can carry on in immorality, she has assented.
So, the logical conclusion to this story, with said false gospel, is there is absolutely nothing wrong with the child except for the fact she she hasn't agreed to some Bible facts.
This is one reason why we have this going on in our world, and in our nation; false gospels are being judged, and the above story from Fox is showing us this judgment. So too the story in the OP; note 1 Peter 4:17.
Link? I searched for this on Fox couldn't find it.
The last days started at the Cross. The message is still "Repent, and believe the Gospel."
Some today don't believe repentance is necessary which is gravely errant, leading people astray. That type of errant message would say to this poor child there is no need to repent of your lifestyle of sin, contrary to 1 Corinthians 6:9ff, and that all the child need do is assent to facts about the Gospel. The child can carry on in immorality, she has assented.
So, the logical conclusion to this story, with said false gospel, is there is absolutely nothing wrong with the child except for the fact she she hasn't agreed to some Bible facts.
This is one reason why we have this going on in our world, and in our nation; false gospels are being judged, and the above story from Fox is showing us this judgment. So too the story in the OP; note 1 Peter 4:17.
Sorry., I don't know how to do the "link" thing. Not sure why you can't find it. It was on Tucker Carlson's show. The Bible says when we see certain things happening in the world we can know Jesus coming is at hand. I didn't live back when Jesus first went back to heaven. There are many things going on today that cause me to consider His coming is "at hand" wrong being called right and vs/vs. Especially in America where we used to have more respect for God and morality at least.
Now people are so confused in America (where I live) they are dressing their boys up as girls and vs/vs and allowing them to go through sex change operations. Not to mention abortion running rampant in America over the years. Despite the scientific evidences so obvious and available to people from the internet these days. With more knowledge there is still a giant void in truth.
1 Peter 4:17
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the time [has arrived] for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will [be] the end of those who do not respect or believe or obey the good news (the Gospel) of God?
There is no judgment for those in the household of God because we have believed on Jesus and accept Him as our Savior and now have His righteousness.
This is a long study and probably should be taken to the Bible study section but since you brought it up preacher., it's something to think about when it comes to the word "judged" and how it applies to the believer. If Christians have already been judged., what is this talking about?
1 Peter 4:17 – It’s Judgment Time!
Posted on February 24, 2011 by Paul Ellis // 58 Comments
Here’s a passage that seems to come up whenever something bad happens to Christians.
If a pastor stumbles in sin and his church splits, it’s God judging His house.
If an earthquake wipes out a city and some of those who die happen to be Christians, it’s God judging His house.
Some people seem to take perverse delight in threatening others with the sword of God’s judgment. They seem to forget Jesus’ warning in Matthew 26:52.
All of our sins were dealt with at the cross. We have been fully redeemed and sanctified by the blood of the Lamb. There is a day coming when Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats, but this is only bad news if you’re a goat! If you are a sheep it is a day to look forward to with eager anticipation and confidence. Where does this confidence come from? It comes from a revelation of the Father’s love as expressed in the Son’s perfect work on the cross.
So what is Peter talking about when he says it’s time for judgment to begin with the house of God? I’m going to give you two interpretations. The first interpretation emphasizes things we must do while the second emphasizes things Christ has already done. However, I will first give you the scripture in context:
Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you.
But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyedwhen his glory is revealed.
If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.
However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
For it is time for judgment to begin with the house of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”
So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good. (1 Pet 4:12-19)
Interpretation #1: Work harder
There are only two kinds of religion in the world – religion based on our works or religion based on His blood. Someone whose faith rests in human works will interpret the judgment of 1 Peter 4:17 as punishment for Christians. Of course they won’t come right out and say it. They will use words like purification and discipline but what they really mean is condemnation and wrath. They will refer to patterns of judgment in the Old Testament but make no mention of the cross. They may talk about Ananias and Sapphira but ignore Jesus. Strip away the jargon and their message will be this: “Bad things are going to happen to you. God is behind these bad things, but don’t worry because far worse things are going to happen to sinners.” They may try and pass this off as “good news” by saying it’s better to suffer a little wrath now than hellfire later. What should we do in response to such a message? More works of course! We should try harder to be better Christians. We should repent more, confess more, and generally straighten up and fly right.
There’s no way around it. If you interpret 1 Peter 4:17 through the lens of works you will end up with a condemning message. “God loves you and because He loves you He’s going to give you a whipping. It’s for your own good.” How is it, then, that in the five verses immediately preceding, Peter uses words and phrases like “rejoice,” “be overjoyed,” “you are blessed” and “praise God that you bear His name”? How in the name of all that is sensible are we supposed to get joyful over a divine whipping? Either Peter has lost touch with reality, or he has something completely different in mind.
Interpretation #2: Trust God
The key to understanding 1 Peter 4:17 is the word “judgment.” In the original Greek this word is krima which means “decision” or “decree.” It’s the decision of a judge or authority. A judgment can be good or bad, in your favor or against you, but in the New Testament krima is usually bad.
When Peter says it’s judgment time for the church, he is probably referring to the condemning judgment of Nero against the Christians. Look at how Peter describes this judgment:
v.12: “the fiery suffering among you that is coming to try you”
v.13: “you participate in the sufferings of Christ”
v.14: “you are insulted because of the name of Christ”
v.16. “if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed”
v.19: “(you) who suffer according to God’s will”, meaning for the gospel
Peter was writing during a time of great persecution. In the beginning, the church only had to worry about persecution from religious folk like Saul. But things have since escalated. Now the state itself is out to get them.
Because of Nero – not God – Christians were being tortured and killed for their faith in Christ. Paul was probably dead and Peter himself would soon be crucified. If you were a follower of Christ back then, martyrdom was a very real prospect.
In light of this awful persecution, Peter seeks to bring a little perspective. He does this by comparing what happens to the righteous (persecution in this life) with what happens to the ungodly (eternal condemnation). Peter says four things:
(1) Don’t be surprised that you are suffering for the gospel (4:12). If they persecuted Jesus they will persecute you.
(2) Even though persecution is painful, rejoice on account of the coming glory (4:13). It hurts now, but justice is coming.
(3) Don’t let these trials cause you to be ashamed – it’s actually a blessing to be insulted on account of Christ’s name (4:14,16).
(4) In view of this, don’t run and hide (like I once did) but commit yourselves to your faithful Creator and keep doing good (4:19).
Is Peter saying Christians can lose their salvation?
No he is not. There are two issues here. One is security and the other is fruitfulness. In verse 19 he encourages the believers to commit themselves “to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.” Who is faithful? God is! You may be worried about persecution but you do not need to worry about God letting you go. In the words of Spurgeon, “if he has loved you once he will love you forever.”
The concern is not that Christians could lose their salvation, but that they might be driven underground in fear (3:6,14). This is why Peter urges them to continue doing good (4:17), even in the face of persecution. Peter knew from personal experience what it was like to run from Jesus in fear and he didn’t want his readers doing that. The good news of God’s grace will not be heard unless those who preach it are bold.
Jesus said two things about judgment that are relevant here:
“For God sent not the Son into the world to judge (krino) the world…” (Jn 3:17a, ASV)
“For judgment (krima) I have come into this world…” (Jn 9:39)
Jesus did not come to judge the world, yet the world will be judged on account of Jesus. Remember that another word for judgment is decision. Now if Jesus said He is not the one doing the deciding (krino), but that decisions (krima) will be made on account of Him, then who is making these decisions? We are! Every single one of us will either decide to put our faith in Jesus or we won’t. Those who put their faith in Christ are made into a new creation and given His Spirit as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come (2 Cor 5:5,17).
When Jesus returns in glory He will not judge anyone. He will simply separate those who have found their rest in him from those who have chosen to bet on themselves. The Grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, but not all men will put their faith in Him.
Let me finish with three questions for those who still think God is judging/punishing the church or Christchurch or the West.
- Those who are in Christ are complete (Col 2:10) and perfect forever (He 10:14). If Jesus said He would not judge even the lost (Jn 12:47), why would He judge those He has redeemed and are now reckoned perfect?
- Peter said “Christ died for sins once for all” (1 Pet 3:18). If my sins have been removed and God is now “done with sin” (1 Pet 4:1), then what is left to punish?
- Finally, if the punishment that brought us peace was placed on Christ (Is 53:5), how can God now punish us? Would He not be unjust if He punished twice for the same offence?
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I wasn't trying to be "snarky" When you said the last days "started" at the cross., I wanted to make the point that I was not there at that time., I'm here today and I see things happening today that lead me to believe we are living in the last days.
You should read the different interpretations of 1 Pet.4:17 I was only trying to share and comment on what you brought up... Go figure...
You should read the different interpretations of 1 Pet.4:17 I was only trying to share and comment on what you brought up... Go figure...
