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actually, mr. trump speaks a lot of truth without worrying about being p.c.

people need to learn ( relearn ) that being offended is not a crime.
Ack! If I could figure out how to use that one, it's a great answer to those who keep calling me on my "not a lady" bit. (I know I'm not a lady. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. Trump does the same thing, and gets elected as the President. He is so not a lady! lol)
 
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He's from the days of John Wayne,when a man walked and talked like a man. Its not emotional. Time we stop blowin at the fur and get to the hide. Time to send rocket man to the moon.
Heads up, your puppy wants to know what's wrong with fur. So do my stuffed animals. lol
 
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Heads up, your puppy wants to know what's wrong with fur. So do my stuffed animals. lol
Fur is great,but sometimes you need to get to the hide. lol Like when you have fleas!!
 

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Respectfully, can you tell me specifically what they are protesting about? Voices are not being heard how or about what?
They're protesting the fact that police officers are above the law that we pay them to enforce. The nurse incident was the last straw for me. I have lost all faith I had in our judicial system. When a police officer can unlawfully arrest a nurse while she's doing her job and face no consequences lets us know that we are in a police state
 

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It started with police brutality then it became just general oppression against Blacks and Minorities (this exists people) then this season guys just want Kap to get signed since in all fairness he's much better than most of the backups signed already. Btw they aren't anti America like many claim.
 

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I'm not a cop hater because I know there are plenty of good cops but the head nurse incident had me absolutely livid. All of America should be up in arms over that one
 

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I'm not a cop hater because I know there are plenty of good cops but the head nurse incident had me absolutely livid. All of America should be up in arms over that one
Im pro cop but I can recognize there are bad ones and injustice in the system. I do hate the overall resentment against them where all of them are considered evil. I understand from their point of view, but my friend who's a cop and my former professor who is one, it is frustrating.
 
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When are we going to understand that NONE of this is really racially motivated? That's just the title thieves and lawbreakers do all this under. It takes a little bit of thinking, but it is pretty clear when you do put your brain into gear. It is little more than simply pure envy of what someone who has actually worked to acquire their possessions has... by people who don't want to have to also work for the same thing.
 
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They're protesting the fact that police officers are above the law that we pay them to enforce. The nurse incident was the last straw for me. I have lost all faith I had in our judicial system. When a police officer can unlawfully arrest a nurse while she's doing her job and face no consequences lets us know that we are in a police state
Police officers are not above the law. That's an unfounded statement with zero proof.The situation with the nurse is not over so no comment can be made on that yet. There is an investigation into the situation and it may not be as cut and dried as people think.



p.s.And lets not forget its the NFL where they are known to beat wives and gfs, sleep with groupies,have kids out of wedlock,take drugs and drunk drive. Hardly paragons of virtue.
 
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Can anyone here (White or Black) tell me how many Black-on-Black murders... or how many Black drug overdoses... or abortions 'taking a knee' is going to stop?

Knee or no knee, no cop (of ANY color) is going to wait to see if the Black (or White) suspect he has just chased down is really going to shoot him with that gun in his hand before he fires. And, the only other "oppression" I see Blacks enduring is getting any job they apply for, and maybe hurting their back while loading all the free welfare food into the car. Maybe they are getting ripped-off by their drug dealers?

Why aren't Kap and crew trying to do anything about all the violence their own people are inflicting upon themselves... that costs thousands of young Black lives every year?

This "knee" business is grandstanding foolishness.
 
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[video]http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/24/judge-jeanine-rips-nfl-roger-goodell-national-anthem-kneelers-after-trump-speech[/video]
 
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A police state, really?
Go back and look at world history. Our police at its worst couldn't possibly equal a police state.
Obviously someone needs to look again at the SS & the Gestapo.
 

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Can anyone here (White or Black) tell me how many Black-on-Black murders... or how many Black drug overdoses... or abortions 'taking a knee' is going to stop?

Knee or no knee, no cop (of ANY color) is going to wait to see if the Black (or White) suspect he has just chased down is really going to shoot him with that gun in his hand before he fires. And, the only other "oppression" I see Blacks enduring is getting any job they apply for, and maybe hurting their back while loading all the free welfare food into the car. Maybe they are getting ripped-off by their drug dealers?

Why aren't Kap and crew trying to do anything about all the violence their own people are inflicting upon themselves... that costs thousands of young Black lives every year?

This "knee" business is grandstanding foolishness.
Anyone with a trace of familiarity with African-American communities knows that we want the killers who plague our communities arrested and jailed no matter what their race or color. Words never said by a black mother or father include: "I rest easier at night knowing my son was killed by another black man."

While it is true that the overwhelming number of black people who are murdered in the United States are killed by other black people, it's also true, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime reports,
that about 82% of white American homicide victims were killed by other white people.

To begin with, black men who commit crimes go to jail at a higher rate than any other ethnic group. Since many people of color also serve on juries, logically it can't be true that African-Americans are uninterested in punishing other blacks who commit crimes.

Secondly, African-Americans are the victims of crime and police brutality; the two concerns are not mutually exclusive. Black people can be equally disgusted by senseless gun violence as well as white police officers who shoot unarmed black men in the back.

Finally, the very notion that one race committing crimes against others of that same race is a phenomenon unique to the African-American community is a myth. We are NOT a savage race with murderous impulses as you seem to like to imply.
The act of kneeling should not cause a person this much angst.



 
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The National Anthem is a symbol that represents our God given right to ask what it means to be American and which of our American values we value most. It is not sacrosanct.

The actual anthem was written when we were under attack by the British who wa
nted, once again to bring us under their control, who disrespected our freedoms and abilities to act as free and independent individuals as well as a free and independent nation.

There is a reason the First Amendment comes first. It was our Founding Father's most important value.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


Kneeling is simply an act that petitions for a "redress of grievances". It is, therefore one of the most cherished rights and as such it should be respected.


What is true of Congress should also be true of NFL owners, corporations, or any local, state, or Federal institution, including the Executive Branch.

Athletes shouldn't protest because they make Millions? I don't even know how anyone can say that.
#1. Those athletes aren't saying that they are being oppressed FINANCIALLY. So why does their income make a difference. Oh wait, it's because that helps to deflect from the ACTUAL reason, which is....
#2. Those athletes are protesting not just for themselves, but for black and brown people whose voices could NOT be heard. You don't/won't hear MY voice. But you WILL hear theirs.
#3. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY FOUGHT AND DIED SO WE CAN STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. NOBODY.

That's not freedom. That's compulsory obedience. Like North Korea. What our soldiers fought for, was the freedom to be able to express ourselves. Even if that expression is through protest. THAT'S what our FIRST AMENDMENT guarantees us. You don't have to AGREE with why we protest. (but if you can't agree that there shouldn't be police brutality against minorities, or racial oppression, you're legitimately and delibrately blind), but we do indeed have that freedom.


Those athletes are asking our country to do better. And they're doing it peacefully. And you still have more of a problem with the fact they're protesting without violence, than the reasons why they are protesting. What does that say about YOU?



You can't demand that people protest non-violently and peacefully (especially if you were silent or made excuses when white supremacists carried torches, attacked people and ran cars into crowds of people barely a month ago, in fact some called that freedom of speech), and when they DO protest non violently and peacefully, you say "Wait not like that. I'm still uncomfortable".


What you REALLY mean, is that you don't want us to protest at all. As long as it isn't happening to them folks don't care.

What you mean is those who disagree with you should accept no respect from anyone over anything, no matter what, except what you think should be respected at any given moment.

Meh... may not be what you mean, but since you think only you can interpret what I -- no, what everyone else -- means and turn it into something cryptic, I thought I'd take the same liberty into making your cryptic into plain English without the fourth grade history lesson included.
 
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Anyone with a trace of familiarity with African-American communities knows that we want the killers who plague our communities arrested and jailed no matter what their race or color. Words never said by a black mother or father include: "I rest easier at night knowing my son was killed by another black man."

While it is true that the overwhelming number of black people who are murdered in the United States are killed by other black people, it's also true, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime reports,
that about 82% of white American homicide victims were killed by other white people.

To begin with, black men who commit crimes go to jail at a higher rate than any other ethnic group. Since many people of color also serve on juries, logically it can't be true that African-Americans are uninterested in punishing other blacks who commit crimes.

Secondly, African-Americans are the victims of crime and police brutality; the two concerns are not mutually exclusive. Black people can be equally disgusted by senseless gun violence as well as white police officers who shoot unarmed black men in the back.

Finally, the very notion that one race committing crimes against others of that same race is a phenomenon unique to the African-American community is a myth. We are NOT a savage race with murderous impulses as you seem to like to imply.


But we aren't claiming the majority of cops aren't doing the job they are supposed to do.
 
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A buddy of mine who served in Afghanistan had this to say about it.
"We fought for everyone's freedoms and if you think people should be forced to stand for the anthem when you don't understand what Freedom means."
America was founded on protest and Americans have a civic duty to protest corruption and blatant misuse of authority. When a police officer can unlawfully arrest a nurse while she's on duty and face no consequences then something is clearly wrong with America
Dude! Your story and you didn't even bother to keep up with what happened. So, reality is you could care less any which way as long as you can play the indignation card at every turn.
 

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But we aren't claiming the majority of cops aren't doing the job they are supposed to do.
Who said the majority? All that is wanted is for those rogue cops be held accountable for their wrong doings. What is wrong with that? It's like if you speak out about the wrongs of some, you will be accused of disliking ALL police officers.
 
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I recall one Black cop saying, "The reason we spend almost all our time down here in the Black neighborhoods is because this is where most of the crime occurs, and this is where the overwhelming amount of the calls we answer come from."
 

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I recall one Black cop saying, "The reason we spend almost all our time down here in the Black neighborhoods is because this is where most of the crime occurs, and this is where the overwhelming amount of the calls we answer come from."
Maybe where he lives, ALL black communities are not like that. The generalizations need to stop.