No Roy No Moore

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tourist

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" we can go out for a pedofile but we can't vote for someone who supports LGBT rights because that would be immoral"
Bill Clinton, a Democrat, sexually immoral, elected to 2 terms. Obama, radical Muslim, hates America elected to 2 terms. Why should LGBT rights exceed that of other citizens? The Democrats consider everyone a victim except your average hard working white guy trying to keep his head above water supporting his family. Enough is enough already.
 

PennEd

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Roy Moore is right about 1 thing for certain. "God is in control"

Read this article to more fully understand how it appears to me he has been railroaded. This was ALWAYS about his position on issues.

[h=3]JERRY SEINFELD ENDORSES ROY MOORE?[/h][FONT=&quot]December 6, 2017[/FONT]
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Apparently, the GOP is now the party of CHILD MOLESTATION! At least the media tell me that's the meaning of President Trump's endorsement of Senate candidate Roy Moore.

Are we allowed to mention that Moore denies the charges?

It's hard to disprove accusations from 40 years ago -- that's why we have statutes of limitations -- but, despite that, there are a surprising number of problems with the allegations against Moore.

One accuser has been called a liar by her own stepson, who says he's voting for Moore. Another neglected to mention that Moore sent her brother to prison.

In defense of one of Moore's accusers, Gloria Allred produced a yearbook allegedly signed by Moore, apparently in two different inks and giving his title as "D.A." He was not the district attorney and didn't sign his name that way. Allred refuses to produce the yearbook for handwriting analysis or to deny that it's a forgery.

Contrary to what you have heard one million times a day on TV, there aren't "multiple accusers." There are two, and that's including the one with the fishy yearbook inscription whose stepson says she's lying.

The other "accusers" claim he dated them when they were 16 to 19 years old and Moore was in his early 30s -- or younger than Jerry Seinfeld was (39) when he dated 17-year-old Shoshanna Lonstein.

That would also make Moore 15 years younger than Bill Clinton when he had a 22-year-old intern performing oral sex on him in the Oval Office. Moore's date "accusers" say he did nothing more than kiss them.

The media throw the dating claims in with the molestation claims so they can keep howling about "multiple accusers." In fact, only two women are alleging anything that, if true, would merit national attention.[/FONT]
 

Billyd

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Demographic according to who? Demographics can and are often easily be tailored to show a desired result.

The FACT is that if Moore was not carrying these sex assault charges he would have easily gotten the less than 1% he would have needed to win!
Before the allegations, Moore was 10% points behind Jones. The allegations brought out a lot of republicans that would have sat out the election. The democrats sexual discrimination message is reaching deep into the once staunch republican voter demographic, married women. I'm also finding a move of younger men away from the republican party.

BTW, I live in the bright red panhandle of Florida. Roy Moore would not have passed muster here.
 

Billyd

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If a conservative woman voted for a Democrat because "womans rights" she's fooling herself. No one is more hypocritical of womans rights than Democrats.
I agree, but the dems are getting a "we are the party of women's rights" message through to them. And it's working!
 

Billyd

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I've read where some have said that Moore was just not a good candidate and that he didn't run a good campaign. I don't live in Alabama so I wasn't following how the race was impacting the state, or what the residents thought of Moore personally. I was only following it inasmuch as it relates to the whole #metoo fiasco.

So while it's plausible to say that the sexual misconduct & assault allegations alone brought him down, it might also be too simplistic of an explanation for why that election turned out the way it did.
It's more of an excuse than an explanation. I really hope that conservatives wake up. 2018 is coming fast.
 
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kaylagrl

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I agree, but the dems are getting a "we are the party of women's rights" message through to them. And it's working!
Its working "for now". Im hoping Americans aren't that stupid.
 

Billyd

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Bill Clinton, a Democrat, sexually immoral, elected to 2 terms. Obama, radical Muslim, hates America elected to 2 terms. Why should LGBT rights exceed that of other citizens? The Democrats consider everyone a victim except your average hard working white guy trying to keep his head above water supporting his family. Enough is enough already.
If you tell someone that he is a victim often enough, he becomes one.

Replace bold with worker.
 
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Last time I checked,Moore was not found guilty in a court of law of any misdeeds. So your designation of him as a pedophile is a false accusation until proven otherwise. But its rather odd that this man,at his age,never had an accusation against him until this election. And that he had no time to clear his name,the same thing that happened to Herman Cain,where are his accusers? America is going to regret the path they are now taking. If a person is guilty then they need to be held to account by the law. Throwing out accusations and obliterating a persons life and career without being found guilty in a court of law is beyond ridiculous.
You spoke a mouthful of truth right there.
 

Billyd

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Its working "for now". Im hoping Americans aren't that stupid.
There's still hope. A good tax reform bill skewed toward the working middle class will go a long way to help. Healthcare reform that helps the lower middle class find quality healthcare with reasonable deductibles, at a reasonable price will really turn it around.
 

MichaelOwen

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Allow me to throw my two cents in. I'm a resident of Alabama, born and raised here. This is the first time I've been ashamed of the people of my state. The left has Satan written ALL over it, and we all know Satan is crafty and clever at what he does, and the left wing Liberals are the same exact way. They will lie, manipulate, and extort people and their feelings and their convictions to twist it to their sickly desires.

It's hard to disprove accusations that "supposedly" happened 40 years ago, but even the woman who claimed she had a signed yearbook from Roy Moore, admitted she forged part of that signature....if she forged part of it...she forged ALL of it! All five women were Doug Jones supporters, registered Democrats, and best yet, they were represented by Gloria Allred. I don't know Roy Moore personally, but I respect any man who will take a stand on God and God's word, which is what Roy Moore did in fighting to keep the Ten Commandments in our state capital and to promote in keeping prayer in schools.

Doug Jones lies and manipulates to get what he wants, and he has no desire to help our presidents agenda in any way. It's hard to fathom this state, which has ALWAYS been predominantly Republican, would rather listen to the lies and manipulations of the left and put a baby killing, tax evading, tax hiking, gun control crazed, weasel like Doug Jones in office, than to stand up for Roy Moore, and support President Trumps agenda to try and make this nation great again.

Whatever punishment and tortures this state is going to endure, we deserve it. 100 percent hands down. I voted for Roy Moore, but at the same token, I did not expect this outcome. We warned so many people about this happening, yet their turned a cold shoulder to it, just like the people in Sodom and Gomorrah turned a cold shoulder to Lot and the Lord. Our judgment is coming, not just as a state, but as a whole country, but this definitely continues to set the stage. Pray for this state.


#stupid-is-as-stupid-does
 

skipp

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Allow me to throw my two cents in. I'm a resident of Alabama, born and raised here. This is the first time I've been ashamed of the people of my state. The left has Satan written ALL over it, and we all know Satan is crafty and clever at what he does, and the left wing Liberals are the same exact way. They will lie, manipulate, and extort people and their feelings and their convictions to twist it to their sickly desires.

It's hard to disprove accusations that "supposedly" happened 40 years ago, but even the woman who claimed she had a signed yearbook from Roy Moore, admitted she forged part of that signature....if she forged part of it...she forged ALL of it! All five women were Doug Jones supporters, registered Democrats, and best yet, they were represented by Gloria Allred. I don't know Roy Moore personally, but I respect any man who will take a stand on God and God's word, which is what Roy Moore did in fighting to keep the Ten Commandments in our state capital and to promote in keeping prayer in schools.

Doug Jones lies and manipulates to get what he wants, and he has no desire to help our presidents agenda in any way. It's hard to fathom this state, which has ALWAYS been predominantly Republican, would rather listen to the lies and manipulations of the left and put a baby killing, tax evading, tax hiking, gun control crazed, weasel like Doug Jones in office, than to stand up for Roy Moore, and support President Trumps agenda to try and make this nation great again.

Whatever punishment and tortures this state is going to endure, we deserve it. 100 percent hands down. I voted for Roy Moore, but at the same token, I did not expect this outcome. We warned so many people about this happening, yet their turned a cold shoulder to it, just like the people in Sodom and Gomorrah turned a cold shoulder to Lot and the Lord. Our judgment is coming, not just as a state, but as a whole country, but this definitely continues to set the stage. Pray for this state.


#stupid-is-as-stupid-does
Maybe trying to change people's hearts and minds through politics and voting just isn't working? The more Christians try to make the country more Christian at the voting booth the further the country turns away from Christianity.
 

Billyd

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Maybe trying to change people's hearts and minds through politics and voting just isn't working? The more Christians try to make the country more Christian at the voting booth the further the country turns away from Christianity.
Just thinking. Maybe this election is a wake up call to Christians. If we really want to influence national policy, we need to lead more people to Christ.
 
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kaylagrl

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Maybe trying to change people's hearts and minds through politics and voting just isn't working? The more Christians try to make the country more Christian at the voting booth the further the country turns away from Christianity.
People are turning away from Christianity because we are in the last days,not because of voting. People want a country,should the Lord tarry,that they can pass on to their children.Many do not want abortion,gender politics,and socialism to overrun the country. We are holding the line in the face of satan. We need Christians to get on board,not back away.We need Christians to run for office,whether that be school superintendent of president. Christians need to get more involved in the country,not less.Or our freedoms will be lost.
 

skipp

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People are turning away from Christianity because we are in the last days,not because of voting. People want a country,should the Lord tarry,that they can pass on to their children.Many do not want abortion,gender politics,and socialism to overrun the country. We are holding the line in the face of satan. We need Christians to get on board,not back away.We need Christians to run for office,whether that be school superintendent of president. Christians need to get more involved in the country,not less.Or our freedoms will be lost.
Encouraging Christians to run for office is a good thing. I would like to see more Christians of high caliber in political office. However in recent years it seems to have become the end all and be all of being a Christian. We seem more interested in political battles than in spiritual battles. We seem to be putting our faith more in politicians than in Christ. We may be winning some short term political battles but we are not winning that many spiritual battles. The number of Christians in the country continues to drop, especially among young people. It could be because of the end times, or it might be because we have mixed secular politics up with Christianity and as a result we have made our faith worldly and secular and devoid of the Gospel. Whether you support President Trump's tax agenda is not a litmus test concerning your salvation, but the way some Christians talk you would think it was.

We are running around terrified of losing our freedom and losing political battles and we are showing a great deal of fear and anxiety. Meanwhile our young people are wondering why their elders are so obsessed with secular politics and why they are so fearful and full of anxiety when Christ told us not to be fearful about the future. I find it interesting that in his epistles Paul was living under a tyrannical pagan ruler and yet he didn't seem fearful about it and he didn't command any of the churches he wrote to try to overthrow the pagan government. He didn't seem that interested in it except to tell the churches to obey the authorities. Paul was more interested in discussing the Gospel and righteous living than in discussing the government. Meanwhile I hear more about the importance of voting from many Christians than I do about the Gospel itself. Young people know quite a bit about the political views of Christians but many of them are barely aware of what the Gospel even is. They do know what we talk about the most, and in recent years that appears to be politics.
 
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kaylagrl

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Encouraging Christians to run for office is a good thing. I would like to see more Christians of high caliber in political office. However in recent years it seems to have become the end all and be all of being a Christian. We seem more interested in political battles than in spiritual battles. We seem to be putting our faith more in politicians than in Christ. We may be winning some short term political battles but we are not winning that many spiritual battles. The number of Christians in the country continues to drop, especially among young people. It could be because of the end times, or it might be because we have mixed secular politics up with Christianity and as a result we have made our faith worldly and secular and devoid of the Gospel. Whether you support President Trump's tax agenda is not a litmus test concerning your salvation, but the way some Christians talk you would think it was.

We are running around terrified of losing our freedom and losing political battles and we are showing a great deal of fear and anxiety. Meanwhile our young people are wondering why their elders are so obsessed with secular politics and why they are so fearful and full of anxiety when Christ told us not to be fearful about the future. I find it interesting that in his epistles Paul was living under a tyrannical pagan ruler and yet he didn't seem fearful about it and he didn't command any of the churches he wrote to try to overthrow the pagan government. He didn't seem that interested in it except to tell the churches to obey the authorities. Paul was more interested in discussing the Gospel and righteous living than in discussing the government. Meanwhile I hear more about the importance of voting from many Christians than I do about the Gospel itself. Young people know quite a bit about the political views of Christians but many of them are barely aware of what the Gospel even is. They do know what we talk about the most, and in recent years that appears to be politics.

I really cannot disagree with much of what you have said. My sister posted a meme on FB that said "Rather than putting Christ back in Christmas,I'd settle for putting Christ back in Christians." Something to think about.
 

Tommy379

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" we can go out for a pedofile but we can't vote for someone who supports LGBT rights because that would be immoral"
Not only can you not spell "pedophile," you don't know the meaning of the word. If everything said about Roy Moore's involvement with females is true, it still doesn't make him a pedophile.
 

Huckleberry

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If you're running for U.S. Senate with your religion on your sleeve
and a cross-pin on your lapel, you'd better squeak when you walk.
Moore's pious lecturing, coupled with the numerous
allegations against him, is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
It's unfortunate that this charlatan was able to win his primary, but fortunately the
good people of Alabama, faced with a difficult choice, did what was best for the country.
 

jb

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Poor Roy Moore beaten by a Democrat!

How sad, never mind I’m sure he’ll get over it! Lol