The politics of Gay rights.

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mj007

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You have to bear in mind you are surrounded by saints in this discussion. None of them have ever cheated, none of them have ever looked at porn, none of them have ever lusted on a woman, none of them ever use sexual swear words, none ever had sex out of wedlock, none ever got divorced.

It must be because they are heterosexual - only homosexuals do all of the above!


Dude653 said:
Show me anywhere in the Bible where it says I'm personally responsible for keeping people from sinning.
Or where it says I'm accountable for anyone else's life
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mj007 said:
You have to bear in mind you are surrounded by saints in this discussion. None of them have ever cheated, none of them have ever looked at porn, none of them have ever lusted on a woman, none of them ever use sexual swear words, none ever had sex out of wedlock, none ever got divorced.

It must be because they are heterosexual - only homosexuals do all of the above!
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I just accept God's standards. You and Dude promote and defend those who reject God's standards.
If you are going to continue to do so, please stop calling yourselves Christians.
 
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preacher4truth said:
He preaches a social gospel. It is against the truly converted, and concentrates instead on the alleged abused rights of the perverted and anybody else who loves the Gospel and sound doctrine. Social gospel saves exactly no one.
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I need to edit the above with: It is against the truly converted, and concentrates instead on the alleged abused rights of the perverted, and is opposed to those who love the Gospel and sound doctrine.

My apologies.
 
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this is really all about Yeshua's natural Laws of nature-Love that naturally evolves into the Spiritual,,.
in this fallen world: satan rules and his teeth are very sharp...keep a file handy, at all times...:rolleyes:

and always remember, if" you have a leg=up', you really do have a choice!?!?!
 
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preacher4truth said:
I need to edit the above with: It is against the truly converted, and concentrates instead on the alleged abused rights of the perverted, and is opposed to those who love the Gospel and sound doctrine.

My apologies.
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A sad state when those who stand up for the Gospel are judged in the wrong and those who openly live in sin are defended by those who call them selves Christians.
 
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we have very close friends who have born children with 'both gentiles',,;...
 
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Ellsworth1943 said:
A sad state when those who stand up for the Gospel are judged in the wrong and those who openly live in sin are defended by those who call them selves Christians.
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You won't see him defending Christians...or knowing, defending and understanding the Gospel.
 
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we have very close friends who have born children with 'both gentiles',,;...
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That is sad, be we are talking about people who CHOOSE to live a lifestyle that the Scriptures states as an abomination, and those who support their choice.
 
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this is our world now, Ell,

it is a sad, sad, place-this is where Christ's LOVE and FORGIVNESS comes IN..!.

this is the 'last training ground, 'end of the line'...
 
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Dude653 said:
Christianity is on the decline for the following reasons
1. Hypocrisy.. people who claim to profess Christ but are mean and hateful
2. Persecution complex.. they think another group of people being given a right is somehow taking something away from them
3. Control freaks... they can't comprehend the fact that not everyone is interested in Christianity or the Bible
4. Cherry picking... they go all in for issues like same-sex marriage but you don't see them out picketing bars and strip clubs
5. Religious tyranny... they want to take other people's rights away based on their own religious beliefs
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1-5 all Dudes personal opinions. You missed adding that...
 
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mj007 said:
You have to bear in mind you are surrounded by saints in this discussion. None of them have ever cheated, none of them have ever looked at porn, none of them have ever lusted on a woman, none of them ever use sexual swear words, none ever had sex out of wedlock, none ever got divorced.

It must be because they are heterosexual - only homosexuals do all of the above!
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My parents often use to say "two wrongs don't make a right". I don't hear that often now,but it stands.A person who is a Christian does not continually sin,if they are living in sin they are not Christians. Now,a Christian who is under the blood and falls and repents is different than people who are not saved.That is the difference.Now,if you think Christians are so awful and hypocrites and worse then why are you here?? Just to thumb your nose and insult everyone? I dont get why you are here with all of us horrible,fake,racist,bigots. Makes no sense at all.
 
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Ezekiel 3:18 When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for
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Why cut scripture off half way, It should be quoted in full and with context..

Ezekiel 3: KJV
18 "When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. {19} Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."

Giving warning to sinners that they are in danger of the eternal wrath of God is Gods will for those who believe Him.. Warn them of the danger they are in and give them the good news ( Gospel ) that shows them the way of salvation from the wrath of God..
 
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Originally Posted by Ellsworth1943

Because God said their lifestyle is sin and no one has the right to sin.
Let me repeat, no 0ne has the right to sin.
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Free will.....
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Free will is the human ability to attempt to do as they want.. Free will has nothing to do with Rights or what is good and what is evil..

I have the free will to jump off a cliff if i desire to do so... But reality is when i hit the ground the laws of physics mean my body is going to suffer High G impact , broken bones , probably massive internal damage and bleeding and probably death...

Ones Free will does not mean a lack of consequences for ones actions..
 
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Ellsworth1943 said:
It is obvious that you have no concept of what the Scripture says about sin.
You are more concerned about the rights of people to sin than what God says about sin.
I just can not understand how you can call your self a Christian while supporting the right of people to sin.
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You actually thought he was a Christian.. :eek:????
 
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Dude653 said:
Christianity is on the decline for the following reasons
1. Hypocrisy.. people who claim to profess Christ but are mean and hateful
2. Persecution complex.. they think another group of people being given a right is somehow taking something away from them
3. Control freaks... they can't comprehend the fact that not everyone is interested in Christianity or the Bible
4. Cherry picking... they go all in for issues like same-sex marriage but you don't see them out picketing bars and strip clubs
5. Religious tyranny... they want to take other people's rights away based on their own religious beliefs
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Nope.. It is because people disagree with the will of God and have rejected the Love of the truth by which they would have been saved... Instead they have loved unrightiousness more..

Like loving and supporting the celebration of sodomy.
 
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Why cut scripture off half way, It should be quoted in full and with context..

Ezekiel 3: KJV
18 "When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. {19} Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."

Giving warning to sinners that they are in danger of the eternal wrath of God is Gods will for those who believe Him.. Warn them of the danger they are in and give them the good news ( Gospel ) that shows them the way of salvation from the wrath of God..
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Actually, a search engine cut that off, and I didn't notice it until the ridiculous 5 minute time limit expired, making any corrections impossible for me!
 
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Dude653 said:
Show me anywhere in the Bible where it says I'm personally responsible for keeping people from sinning.
Or where it says I'm accountable for anyone else's life
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You are accountable for the damnation of another persons life if you failed to give them warning about the eternal danger they are in because of their sin and you also failed to show them Gods way of salvation...

I have already posted this scripture before...

Ezekiel 3: KJV
18 "When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. {19} Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."

So if you do not give a homosexual warning that their sin is leading them to the eternal lake of fire and share with them the way God has made for them to be forgiven, Then his blood will I (God) require at thine hand.
 
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mj007 said:
You have to bear in mind you are surrounded by saints in this discussion. None of them have ever cheated, none of them have ever looked at porn, none of them have ever lusted on a woman, none of them ever use sexual swear words, none ever had sex out of wedlock, none ever got divorced.

It must be because they are heterosexual - only homosexuals do all of the above!
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What an extremely immature post... Projecting upon others negative stances when they do not hold those attitudes in a vain attempt to unermine the stance of the other by attacking their character, thats what false accusers do..

2 Timothy 3: KJV
1 "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. {2} For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, {3} Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, {4} Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;"
 
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