You might find it hard to believe, but I have led people to Christ. But not in the way you would lead someone to Christ. The people I have helped, I help with being God focused and Christ focused, compared to otherly or worldly focused. That doesn't necessarily mean I tell them to go to church, or read the Bible, or get baptised. That is their choice. In fact someone who tries to tell me these things just annoys me, and the words can be pretty dead to someone who is deep in sin or an atheist, or just about to jump off a cliff. And THESE are the people we really need to try and get through to. I want to hear God speak through people, not people speak indirectly for God, or on behalf of God. It's like water off a ducks back. The only power it has, is to someone who is vulnerable who is looking for answers and has little belief in anything.
We are different, and in that sense it is easy for us to conflict with each other but we don't need to. It's hard for me to understand your way of thinking, it's hard for you to understand my way of thinking. But I would like to think we both have good intentions, even if we might say what the other doesn't agree with.
I may be like a thorn in the backside to some people, but that's never my intention. I try to open up the focus of people. Like for example, if people focus on not sinning, it's very narrow minded. So many people like this, or trying to enforce this thinking. Like I say to you about focusing on the pro rather than the anti, if people focus on being more loving, they are focused less on sinning. You may think they are the same but they really aren't. One must replace bad habits with something better, rather than resisting bad habits or ways.
If you are in a state of resistance, you are already in the problem. But there are plenty who will help you live in resistance, with comfort. I prefer to get the keys to the problem and get them out of it. Whether it's drug abuse, self-hate, insecurity, unforgiveness, which often come from childhood experiences like sexual abuse. These are all anti-Christ, and the opposite is in line with Christ. To stop abusing your body, to stop abusing your mind, to stop abusing yourself and others with your thoughts which cause you suffering and pain. So many people hold on to these thoughts. They are just thoughts, your thoughts, which you may not even know when they started.
In real life, I am the kind of person, people will tell anything and everything to. I'm highly empathic. This place distorts things for me, because, many of the people who speak against me don't think that. But then I think the same of them. But hey, maybe neither of us are right. Maybe people are just different, but in text they can be different and say things they wouldn't normally in real life. Maybe we are not what we label each other. That goes for the other people I conflict with on here.
Bringing God present in any situation, is dropping the labels, whether open or hidden.
I've given plenty of words here for those who want to label, or be against me, can use. But I'd prefer to be my humble self here on this site, when I feel somewhat pushed inside myself, and I see the same happen to many others who have kind and thoughtful words, and interject the mainstream mind set, with something which is actually more in line with Christ. There is nothing wrong with doing that. It's a challenge when other people don't mutually want to be humble too, regardless of difference.
So lets be friends in Christ, because when there is difference, there is an opportunity and challenge to focus on Christ, rather than loving only those who love you.
Mj how many people have you personally led to Christ? Do you talk to people about their need for God? You have a whole lot to say Im just wondering if you try to lead people to Christ. Im assuming that you do. So when you bring them to church and the preacher preaches about sin,any sin,what will you do then? What does the word conviction mean to you?
Ive mentioned before how a young man in a service we held came to know the Lord. My father spoke about homosexuality and how it displeased God and it was sin. He wasn't offended,he came to the alter,got saved and told us later he had not know that homosexuality was offensive to God. The truth never returns void according to the Word. But how can people know the truth if you refuse to tell them.
We did another service in Toronto at the Salvation Army in the middle of the city. At the alter call many came with all different issues and came to the Lord.The pastor said we have pimps,prostitutes,drug addicts,all kinds that will come tonight. They came and heard the truth and received the Lord.
I know you like to think everyone but you is a hypocrite. I know you like to jump in and try to insult and stir up trouble. But honestly have you lead anyone to the Lord? And if you have do you think your way is the only way to reach people? There are a lot of ministries out there reaching a lot of different people. Surely you're not immature enough to think you know all. When you go out on the street,into public places and preach the Word then come back to me and we'll talk about it.
