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    Lightbulb Something i have to note on current president speech today

    President Donald Trump delivered a speech today covering many topics including National Security, the Economy, and plans for the future.

    December 18, 2017 entire speech found here copy/paste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdTCfRDhSs


    But there is something i have not seen anyone speak upon , in these forums. When he rally in phoenix AZ , back in 2016 he spoke upon a biometrics entry exit tracking system for immigrants , but was he really honest in his purposal.




    Trump stated the following: It will be on land , it will be on sea and air.

    In a draft of his executive order to limit muslims from entering the nation earlier this year . Thee wording in the document does not only point to those that are illegal or immigration but all travelers to the USA.

    Section 8 of executive order follows: Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry- Exit Tracking System
    (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedise the completion and implementation of a biometrics entry-exit tracking system for all Travelers to the United States , as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States


    https://www.scribd.com/document/33754...

    For all Travelers as stated above interesting is it not...

    This seems to be the original plan back in January of 2017 due that it was a draft of the executive order, but let be honest with yourselfs , if indeed this was the original plan , don't be surprised if it extend to the general populace in the coming years...

    This same system could be used to create a cashless society , interesting...

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    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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    Default Re: Something i have to note on current president speech today

    Pubished on June 14, 2017 not that long ago

    Biometric technology at an airport near you







    The TSA is experimenting a new checkpoint screening process which allows a passenger’s fingerprint to replace their boarding pass and identification. Biometric fingerprint scanners “reinvent and enhance security effectiveness,” the TSA stated. Use of the scanners so far is entirely voluntary. RT America’s Marina Portnaya has the story.

    For now perhaps , until a terrorist attack then mandatory , let's see where this goes in the coming months.

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    Very good reminder...

    1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

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    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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    I am pretty sure they all ready do this. Biometric tracking is just a fancy way to say they got microchips in your US passport. Anyways, I think it might be a decent idea to expand this to the immigrants, especially ones that are not from the West, just put a chip in their green card basically and that's all there is to it. Though personally I think while it be a nice compromise to track the immigrants, they are still going to wile out whether they are chipped or not. I think it be better and more cost effective to just totally shut down immigration from non-West countries all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel8 View Post
    Biometric tracking is just a fancy way to say they got microchips in your US passport.
    You may want to educate yourself on the subject. Biometrics has been in use for well over a decade for high security facilities. Biometrics utilizes either fingerprint or retinal scans to verify identity rather than ID cards or passwords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    You may want to educate yourself on the subject. Biometrics has been in use for well over a decade for high security facilities. Biometrics utilizes either fingerprint or retinal scans to verify identity rather than ID cards or passwords.
    Well that's true. Guess I need to watch Minority Report again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    You may want to educate yourself on the subject. Biometrics has been in use for well over a decade for high security facilities. Biometrics utilizes either fingerprint or retinal scans to verify identity rather than ID cards or passwords.
    Yes this technology has been used for quite some time , but let us see how far this will go in the coming months , or years. Perhaps it may be introduce to formulate a cashless society , yes i am aware there are other forms of technology out there that can be stated as the forerunner here are a few examples bitcoin , tattoos , credit cards even perhaps branding irons yikes !!!

    But what would be thee more simple alternative , that thee majority would be a custom to , the youth already have this idea handed out to them within there phones. To them its the casual approach they are already accustomed to it. Some might say it's not that bad it's just my hand & eyes ...

    But there might be something very sinister behind making such a move , time will tell, let see what happends in the coming months or years.

    Shalom
    Very good reminder...

    1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

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    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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    Default Re: Something i have to note on current president speech today

    Biometrics does not require the need of a mark to be put in a persons forehead or in their hand.. Biometrics only requires an accurate measurement of some physical attribute of the person.. Like finger print or their eye retina or face recognition..

    While it can be used for surveillance and tracking it is not the mark of the best..

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    Default Re: Something i have to note on current president speech today

    Regardless of the whole "mark of the beast thing", I still find the biometric tracking on visas kind of creepy.

    Does anyone know specifically what kind of system their talking about implementing?

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    Default Re: Something i have to note on current president speech today

    This is a fine example of how a biometrics system can be used against the people. In Jamaica there was a law pass for a new ID system called the NIDS .






    Here is the Bait: The Government of Jamaica is designing and developing a National Identification System (NIDS), that will provide a comprehensive and secure structure to enable the capture and storage of personal identity information for citizens and persons ordinarily resident in Jamaica. The NIDS will become the primary source for identity assurance and verification, and will result in improved governance and management of social, economic and security programes.

    Here is the Hook : Clause 20 Section 9: Every person who refuses or fails , without reasonable excuse to apply to the authority ... shall be liable on conviction.

    Here is the Line : It is for your safety , it is for defending the citizens of the country , to stop crimes


    Let's us be patient and see how these things unfold in the coming months...
    Last edited by vic1980; December 24th, 2017 at 12:15 AM.
    Very good reminder...

    1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    &

    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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    Default Re: Something i have to note on current president speech today

    Quote Originally Posted by maxwel View Post
    Regardless of the whole "mark of the beast thing", I still find the biometric tracking on visas kind of creepy.
    Indeed maxwell

    Quote Originally Posted by maxwel View Post
    Does anyone know specifically what kind of system their talking about implementing?
    There is a article that was written back in 2005 , upon his plan , there also video that you can trace back upon this topic , on a show in 2005 fox & friends where he was discussion upon his utopia of a system.

    Trump: We Need a Final Solution to the Immigration Problem


    NEW YORK, Ny. – Republican presidential candidate and billionaire entrepreneur Donald Trump touted the need for a “lasting resolution” to the country’s ongoing immigration problem during an appearance on Fox & Friends this morning.
    “This country needs a comprehensive policy in place to halt illegal immigration and keep anyone who’s previously been deported from coming back,” Trump said. Touching on “Operation Wetback,” a controversial 1950’s deportation policy which Mr. Trump has voiced strong support for, the GOP’s leading candidate proposed a solution that he would “immediately” implement if elected.

    Trump’s plan includes a “revolutionary” method for locating and tracking individuals who have been or are scheduled to be deported from the United States. “Specialists will implant a tiny radio-frequency identification (RFID) chip into the upper right arm of every individual who passes through one of these relocation centers,” Trump said, continuing, “This allows us to track their movements virtually anywhere in the world, in real-time.”

    If you would like to read the rest of the article here is the link: Trump: We Need a Final Solution to the Immigration Problem

    Knowing that Biometrics will be implemented by the draft resolution upon thee executive order , now the question remains , when will this be implemented 2018 + ???

    Theres a probability this can lead up into a cashless society , with all these measures being implemented for security.

    Shalom
    Very good reminder...

    1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    &

    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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    A tracking device would would never work because it's going to have to have a battery of some sort.
    " let me just recharge this tracking device so the government can track my every move"... said no one ever
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    With an increase in online shopping they'd have to put a scanner in all devices in order to be a truly cashless society.
    Not impossible but expensive
    Quote Originally Posted by vic1980 View Post
    Yes this technology has been used for quite some time , but let us see how far this will go in the coming months , or years. Perhaps it may be introduce to formulate a cashless society , yes i am aware there are other forms of technology out there that can be stated as the forerunner here are a few examples bitcoin , tattoos , credit cards even perhaps branding irons yikes !!!

    But what would be thee more simple alternative , that thee majority would be a custom to , the youth already have this idea handed out to them within there phones. To them its the casual approach they are already accustomed to it. Some might say it's not that bad it's just my hand & eyes ...

    But there might be something very sinister behind making such a move , time will tell, let see what happends in the coming months or years.

    Shalom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    A tracking device would would never work because it's going to have to have a battery of some sort.
    " let me just recharge this tracking device so the government can track my every move"... said no one ever
    Such tracking device would probably be engineered to utilize the electrical charge that a human body produces. There will be no need for a battery.
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    https://arstechnica.com/science/2015...human-biofuel/

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    If the mark of the beast is put under the skin it would not need a battery.

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    One thing leads to another,it is for this,and for that,and eventually it will be for the world to identify them,and the one world economic system,and they will know everyone's location on earth to cut down on crime,that follow they kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zi View Post
    With an increase in online shopping they'd have to put a scanner in all devices in order to be a truly cashless society.
    Not impossible but expensive
    Not sure if it would be a expensive moved for the american leaders . A example we can used is venezuela biometrics finger prints for food. This was over two years ago , while this country was in a totally bad shape yet it was a triumphant strategy program for food control.

    gov mandates biometric fingerprint for food




    Don't be surprise if we see this coming to our local grocery stores via mandates.
    Last edited by vic1980; January 17th, 2018 at 01:12 AM.
    Very good reminder...

    1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    &

    Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

    The carnal mind hates truth & judgement, and leans unto its own understanding. The mind of the spirit, loves truth and being decreased in the carnal, is to be increased in Christ.

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