President Trump's alligator mouth ends another week in the gutter

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RickyZ

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Interesting article in today's LA Times, commie pinko rag that it is...

Apple plans to repatriate an estimated 245 billion over the next 5 years. With that, they plan to invest 30 billion in the US to create 20,000 jobs, with about 1/3 of that going to data centers.

Kudos to Apple.

The article also notes:

During the election Trump was credited with stopping Carrier from moving jobs into Mexico by giving them a tax break. Carrier acquiesced, but between now and then most of those positions have been laid off anyway. Including 200 more this month.

Experts still expect that the money companies repatriate will mostly be used for acquisitions, mergers, stock buybacks, shareholder dividends, debt repayment, and expansions. Except for expansions, none of those benefit workers.

The last time companies were given freedom to repatriate money was in 2004 when congress offered a 5.25% tax rate on repatriated funds. That plan did not result in many new jobs as the majority of it went to shareholders.

Boo, hiss.

So there's some good signs, but still the experts have the expectation that the new tax rate will not really help many outside of corporate officers and shareholders. Methinks some companies are throwing Trump a bone to silence the critics, but again I'm just a skeptic who looks at past performances.

Time will tell.

But I still don't trust humans and their greed.
 

Tommy379

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Why so down on the shareholders? I'm lower middle-class, and a shareholder.
 
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When is our President going to learn? If he says it, someone is going to publish it.

President Trump denies calling Haiti a ----hole country

He did use the same term to describe African countries.

Maybe we should get the First Lady a bar of soap.

I will give you $1000 if you go to Haiti and stand outside in a city for 24 hours and come back alive. Its not that bad really anywhere unless you are American.
 
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Also you should so all that the Haitian president says about Americans and Trump. Nobody ever mentions that. Like nobody ever said he was racist before he was president.
 

Billyd

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I will give you $1000 if you go to Haiti and stand outside in a city for 24 hours and come back alive. Its not that bad really anywhere unless you are American.
Are you really sure you want to make this statement? We diverted out team from next planned summer Haiti mission trip, to a Puerto Rico. If we have the funds left, we may still make it to Haiti. If we had the money that the Clinton Foundation says they spent there, Haiti would be a much different place today.

Why don't you use that $1000, and join one of your local churches mission team to Haiti. I'm sure that they can use some young muscle on their projects.

Even in the face of danger God expects his people to go.
 

Dude653

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There are three factors that usually make a poop hole country
Crime
Poverty
Rigid Theocratic government.
 

RickyZ

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Why so down on the shareholders? I'm lower middle-class, and a shareholder.
I'm not against shareholders, I'm against the unfair distribution of wealth. Employees are an essential part of business. Why are they expected to work as slaves and not be fairly compensated?

Why is everyone so against fair pay for employees?
 

RickyZ

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I've always wanted to see a spin-off of the tv show 'undercover boss' - where instead of the CEO trying to do the employees job, the CEO tries to live on the employees wage.
 

JaumeJ

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It will be the vast majority who fall in line behind 666 also, so no small wonder people practically worship this man and his behavior....
 

Tommy379

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I'm not against shareholders, I'm against the unfair distribution of wealth. Employees are an essential part of business. Why are they expected to work as slaves and not be fairly compensated?

Why is everyone so against fair pay for employees?
There is nothing unfair about it. This is not slavery. Those employees are free to seek better employment opportunities elsewhere. They are free to negotiate for more compensation. They are free to start their own business, free to invest their earnings, free to come up with a good idea.
 
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There is nothing unfair about it. This is not slavery. Those employees are free to seek better employment opportunities elsewhere. They are free to negotiate for more compensation. They are free to start their own business, free to invest their earnings, free to come up with a good idea.
I sometimes wonder if many of the people I see supposedly "working", have ever turned in a full, honest day's work in their lives. And they gripe about the people who have invested thousands and thousands of dollars (often millions) so they can keep on drawing a consistent amount of money every single minute of every single day, when they may have just spent ten minutes staring off into space, or contemplating their navel.
 

RickyZ

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Well, now the small still voice is telling me I need to rescind my apology. All I'm hearing here is the love of money, praise for fat cats, disdain for the working stiff, and the inability to separate the worthy from the lazy.

Willie, cash out your $30k soon, because the next market correction is going to make the great recession look like the good old days.

See ya in another thread!
 
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Well, now the small still voice is telling me I need to rescind my apology. All I'm hearing here is the love of money, praise for fat cats, disdain for the working stiff, and the inability to separate the worthy from the lazy.

Willie, cash out your $30k soon, because the next market correction is going to make the great recession look like the good old days.

See ya in another thread!
Here's your chance to get some of that 30k so you can give it away. Let's, you and me, make a bet that at the end of all of Trump's term, the market will be higher than it was when Obama left office.

What amount of that do you want?

BTW, have you ever researched how many people the Fat Cat, Abraham, was able to employ?
 
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Billyd

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There is nothing unfair about it. This is not slavery. Those employees are free to seek better employment opportunities elsewhere. They are free to negotiate for more compensation. They are free to start their own business, free to invest their earnings, free to come up with a good idea.
Tommy I agree with what you are saying. The problem is that most people who stay in low paying jobs aren't smart enough to even know how to seek better paying jobs.
 

PennEd

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Hey. I like a halfway decent conspiracy as much as the next guy.

But perhaps you could be juust a tad less cryptic and spell this out for us! I can't make heads or tails of it and not really thinking it's worth the effort to track down.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I'm not against shareholders, I'm against the unfair distribution of wealth. Employees are an essential part of business. Why are they expected to work as slaves and not be fairly compensated?

Why is everyone so against fair pay for employees?
well hey ho

what is to stop the employees from starting up their own company and paying their employees salaries equal to their own?

well, I can think of lots of reasons, but since you brought it up, what do you say?

and how would you resolve what you call the unfair distribution of wealth?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Interesting article in today's LA Times, commie pinko rag that it is...

Apple plans to repatriate an estimated 245 billion over the next 5 years. With that, they plan to invest 30 billion in the US to create 20,000 jobs, with about 1/3 of that going to data centers.

Kudos to Apple.

The article also notes:

During the election Trump was credited with stopping Carrier from moving jobs into Mexico by giving them a tax break. Carrier acquiesced, but between now and then most of those positions have been laid off anyway. Including 200 more this month.

Experts still expect that the money companies repatriate will mostly be used for acquisitions, mergers, stock buybacks, shareholder dividends, debt repayment, and expansions. Except for expansions, none of those benefit workers.

The last time companies were given freedom to repatriate money was in 2004 when congress offered a 5.25% tax rate on repatriated funds. That plan did not result in many new jobs as the majority of it went to shareholders.

Boo, hiss.

So there's some good signs, but still the experts have the expectation that the new tax rate will not really help many outside of corporate officers and shareholders. Methinks some companies are throwing Trump a bone to silence the critics, but again I'm just a skeptic who looks at past performances.

Time will tell.

But I still don't trust humans and their greed.
well saw an interview last night wherein an employee of Carrier stated he believed Carrier was already going to go ahead and lay off people.

But I still don't trust humans and their greed
I find this a whimsical statement. are you not human?

there are many forms of greed. Bible just calls it sin

we all make our own choices including how we handle our money
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Hey. I like a halfway decent conspiracy as much as the next guy.

But perhaps you could be juust a tad less cryptic and spell this out for us! I can't make heads or tails of it and not really thinking it's worth the effort to track down.


aw come on

where's the fun in that? cryptic makes it more mysterious and all that