Results of poll on mass shootings

[Billyd]

Seems that everyone but Democrats believe that mental health issues are the primary cause of mass shootings.

Where do yo stand?

Most see mass shootings are result of mental health screening -- ABC News Topstories

 

[Dude653]

Failed protocol is part of the problem because this recent Shooter had been reported to the FBI and they did nothing.
Same situation with Omar Mateen.
I think a handgun for personal defense is reasonable but I see no reason why anyone needs military grade weapons capable of murdering Mass numbers of people and seconds. After the Las Vegas shooting most people agreed that bump stocks should be banned but crickets from Congress

 

[Jimbone]

It is the same exact problem that man has always had since the fall, we reject our God and His ways for our own, and are completely incapable of doing anything about our condition on our own. That was the problem then, that is the problem now, and there is only one way it can be dealt with is the way, the truth, the life, Jesus. We are to "go" and make disciples of all nations, He takes a fool like me, makes me brand new by His grace, and uses me to proclaim His truth to the world He came and redeemed. This is something I would have never cared about before He saved me, and is something He gets all credit and glory for. I believe He absolutely did redeem this world, He did proclaim His Kingdom was at hand, and like leaven through the loaf, like the mustard seed growing into the tree with birds nested in it's branches, His Kingdom will know no end, His children will be as numerous as the stars, and His Spirit is being poured out on us in this age and will be until all is brought under Jesus feet with all of us singing "Glory, Glory, Glory, to our King forever", son. That's just my perspective on the situation anyway.

 

[Huckleberry]

In no particular order, bad parenting, evolutionary indoctrination,
psychotropic drug use, violent media, and medical privacy laws.

 

[JonahLynx]

The primary cause of murder is the sin nature of humans. What allows a murderous spirit to commit mass murder is access to the necessary weapon(s). Humans have not changed in 2000 years, yet the killing potential of one individual has skyrocketed with the invention of firearms and subsequently high-powered, semi/faux/auto guns. Pretending these tools play no role in the equation is simply naïve - just as pretending the issue can be completely solved through legislation. Without assault rifles you simply cannot get these exorbitant casualty figures without a more sophisticated degree of planning not available to, say, a teenager.

 

[Huckleberry]

The primary cause of murder is the sin nature of humans.......Without assault rifles you simply cannot get these exorbitant casualty figures without a more sophisticated degree of planning not available to, say, a teenager.

Wrong on both counts.
Hate is the cause of murder, not "sin nature".
None of these mass murders have been committed with "assault rifles".

 

[Dude653]

The primary cause of murder is the sin nature of humans. What allows a murderous spirit to commit mass murder is access to the necessary weapon(s). Humans have not changed in 2000 years, yet the killing potential of one individual has skyrocketed with the invention of firearms and subsequently high-powered, semi/faux/auto guns. Pretending these tools play no role in the equation is simply naïve - just as pretending the issue can be completely solved through legislation. Without assault rifles you simply cannot get these exorbitant casualty figures without a more sophisticated degree of planning not available to, say, a teenager.

right. Everyone wants to blame everything but the obvious problem which is the ready availability of weapons capable of murdering mass numbers of people in seconds

 

[SpoonJuly]

The primary cause of murder is the sin nature of humans. What allows a murderous spirit to commit mass murder is access to the necessary weapon(s). Humans have not changed in 2000 years, yet the killing potential of one individual has skyrocketed with the invention of firearms and subsequently high-powered, semi/faux/auto guns. Pretending these tools play no role in the equation is simply naïve - just as pretending the issue can be completely solved through legislation. Without assault rifles you simply cannot get these exorbitant casualty figures without a more sophisticated degree of planning not available to, say, a teenager.

I own a pump action 12 ga shotgun that holds 5 shots. I can shoot all 5 shots in less than 5 seconds, reload in 5 seconds, and shoot another 5 shots in 5 seconds. 10 shots in 15 seconds. Anyone can do this with very little practice. If a person used 00 buckshot, one does not have to aim, just point and shoot. If this were done in a classroom, it would be just as deadly as any simi automatic rifle. There is always a way to commit such acts even without automatic rifles.

Wicked people will always find a way.

The whole system failed. The shooter should have never been able to enter the school with a weapon.

 

[Socreta93]

I only voted other because I believe it's a mixture of both

 

[JonahLynx]

Hate is the cause of murder, not "sin nature".

Hate is a sin. I thought this was common knowledge.

None of these mass murders have been committed with "assault rifles".

Which is why I included "semi/faux/auto guns"

 

[JonahLynx]

There is always a way to commit such acts even without automatic rifles.

Agreed, and yet people who intend to kill as many innocents as possible opt for the semi-auto rifle as opposed to the shotgun or handgun. And I feel the reason is obvious. The Vegas shooter for example could not have achieved what he did using buckshot or a 22 special.

 

[SpoonJuly]

Agreed, and yet people who intend to kill as many innocents as possible opt for the semi-auto rifle as opposed to the shotgun or handgun. And I feel the reason is obvious. The Vegas shooter for example could not have achieved what he did using buckshot or a 22 special.

Most simi-auto rifles waste a lot of shot because they do not take time to aim.
A bolt action 243 with a 30 round clip would be just affective. Not as many shots, but each one on target.

 

[SpoonJuly]

Just trying to make the point that banning all simi-auto rifles will do little or no good as long as people are determined to cause mass murder. They will always find a way.

 

[JonahLynx]

Just trying to make the point that banning all simi-auto rifles will do little or no good as long as people are determined to cause mass murder. They will always find a way.

I understand your observation, but in my opinion the reasoning is defeatist. We have a common denominator in all of these cases that is self-evident, and "there will always be murder" is not a solution.

 

[AdolfHipster]

Failed protocol is part of the problem because this recent Shooter had been reported to the FBI and they did nothing.
Same situation with Omar Mateen.
I think a handgun for personal defense is reasonable but I see no reason why anyone needs military grade weapons capable of murdering Mass numbers of people and seconds. After the Las Vegas shooting most people agreed that bump stocks should be banned but crickets from Congress

right. Everyone wants to blame everything but the obvious problem which is the ready availability of weapons capable of murdering mass numbers of people in seconds

That's the thing though... Let's say they do another ban on "assault rifles" (as opposed to tickling rifles), it only takes 3 things to convert a handgun (glock) from a semi-auto to full-auto. If someone can build an AR-15, then modifying a handgun to be full-auto will be a breeze. And lets pretend the assault rifle ban stops a mass murderer from getting an AR-15, why wouldn't the gunman use an alternative weapon? Maybe make a couple of full-auto glocks, extra clips, and he can mass kill people quite easily.

This is a difficult problem to address because I too don't like these mass killings but I also don't want people's constitutional rights infringed upon.

 

[Dude653]

That's the thing though... Let's say they do another ban on "assault rifles" (as opposed to tickling rifles), it only takes 3 things to convert a handgun (glock) from a semi-auto to full-auto. If someone can build an AR-15, then modifying a handgun to be full-auto will be a breeze. And lets pretend the assault rifle ban stops a mass murderer from getting an AR-15, why wouldn't the gunman use an alternative weapon? Maybe make a couple of full-auto glocks, extra clips, and he can mass kill people quite easily.

This is a difficult problem to address because I too don't like these mass killings but I also don't want people's constitutional rights infringed upon.

I will be purchasing a tactical nuke
Constitutional rights and all

 

[Huckleberry]

I will be purchasing a tactical nuke
Constitutional rights and all

King Strawman strikes again!!!

 

[zeroturbulence]

In Los Angeles, back in the 90's, some high schools had metal detectors. Other schools around the country did too because of the gang problems that existed back then. They should just put them in every school. It did work when they used them. No one got into the schoolyard without passing through the metal detector..

Right now, here in the US all government buildings (courthouses, immigration offices, etc.) have metal detectors. I've yet to hear of a mass shooter who got through a metal detector...

 

[Socreta93]

I feel I need to share this. I work at a company that conducts political surveys over the phone. One specific survey I did was only for republicans (if you answers early on that you're a democrat, you get screened out and the survey ends). One of the last questions was do you support the NRA. All of them said yes except the last one. The man said he's a pastor of a church for many years and he's firmly against guns. All the other people said they are catholic and they go to church 1-2 a month. I found it interesting how the republican against guns was a Pentecostal pastor. He told me briefly he agrees with most of rights views but no on guns. Thought that was interesting. Obviously just one person but I never forgot. I'm not trying to persuade anyone one or even give my opinion, just thought I'll share.

 

[tourist]

I support the Second Amendment but never have considered supporting the NRA. I am not against anyone owning a gun even though I myself don't own one. I fired off enough rounds with my M16 while I was enlisted in the army so I'm all set in that regard.