6 yr old handcuffed/arrested for tantrum

[Jullianna]

Twice today I have typed out real incidents regarding violent minors I tried to help because this mean ole untrustworthy officer didn't want to:

See a kid placed in juvie because that only makes them better criminals; or
See another kid get lost in the system and be moved around from foster home to foster home if there was any way at all to work with their parents.

But....this mean ole untrustworthy cop has deleted those posts twice. Why? Because she still wants to protect those kids in spite of what she's read here.

 

[Jullianna]

Very well spoken.Although some people would look at me an wonder (how could you be black)
Thats what wordly thinking does to a society.

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.
11 And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to [fulfil] the lusts [thereof].

Thank you, sir. And I sincerely hope that no one ever thinks this is an issue to be dealt with along racial lines. Kids are kids and they ALL deserve love and discipline that will prepare them for adult life.

 

[zeroturbulence]

The teacher could've just offered her a little juice with some cough medicine mixed in. Wait a few minutes and she'll be the calmest kind in the class.

 

[Ugly]

I don't know. Lock him in a room to let him rage out? (assuming he wasnt hurting himself)
My point was just that I dont see how hancuffing a six year old is going to do any good.

I understand their frustration, but what will this kid now think of the police in the future?


Let me add. I have som bad expereice with police doing raids (at our school), out of uniform, and refusing to show IDs, so I distrust them in the first place. I would NOT want them to handcuff a child in my care.

Yeah, lock a 6 year old in a room alone on school grounds. Thats not going to go over well either. Especially if that child is lashing out like this and is showing a potential to harm themselves, even if its inadvertant. I promise you in this country locking that child in a room would cause outrage. And if that child did hurt themselves somehow, a lawsuit would prevail.

While i don't favor the need for police and handcuffs myself, i've yet to hear a valid suggestion thtas any better, either.

 

[MrHonest]

Hm I'm still wondering how long they tried to contact the parents & schools always ask for other emergency contacts.

Police were security in my middle school... so 10-13 yr olds. That wasn't surprising to me.

 

[crissy17]

Police should not be arresting or handcuffing the young children for minor offenses.Yes, children are more out of control today than ever before. But what did we expect? Our society today has become a filthy and corrupt. Of course kids are going to behave horribly but also it depends on the parenting to the child..
These days, police are called out for even the most minor incidents. I would say that being arrested by police, put in handcuffs and marched down to the police station is far more traumatic than a couple of whacks with a ruler or paddle..If there are weapons or drugs involved in an incident, then it is appropriate for police to be called out to a school.But for virtually everything else, the administrators and the teachers should be able to handle it..

 

[Jullianna]

Yeah, lock a 6 year old in a room alone on school grounds. Thats not going to go over well either. Especially if that child is lashing out like this and is showing a potential to harm themselves, even if its inadvertant. I promise you in this country locking that child in a room would cause outrage. And if that child did hurt themselves somehow, a lawsuit would prevail.

While i don't favor the need for police and handcuffs myself, i've yet to hear a valid suggestion thtas any better, either.

Exactly, Ugly. I'm not a fan of the handcuffs thing either.

Locking a child up in a room alone like that is extremely dangerous. They can be very creative in that state and could bring serious harm to themselves. I've known kids to sit on the floor and beat their heads against the wall until they split open, became unconscious and lost tremendous amounts of blood.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

You have some scary- behaving kids over there.

I wonder if this got any consequences for the parents once they got hold of them?

 

[Jullianna]

I wonder that too. The parents appear to be concentrating on fingerpointing at the moment rather than their child

 

[violakat]

In looking at this, I'm positive this story is an old one, like maybe from the 90's. Or else this has happened before.

If you have never taught in school, then you would have no idea how hard it is to discipline children who have never been disciplined by their parents. And a tantrum that a 6 year old makes, is not necessarily just the lie down on the ground and kick your legs in the air. Sometimes, they throw things, hit people, including other kids. They become so wild that they can become a danger to others. (Hmm, maybe this is why I refuse to ever consider teaching Kindergarten.) Teachers are not allowed to physically restrain a child, because by doing so, they are facing lawsuits for abuse, not to mention a school facing possible lawsuits. Unfortunately, parents have a tendency to automatically side with the child and refuse to hear both sides of a situation, even if they are faced with concrete evidence. Most want to think that their child is a pure angel and would never ever try to hurt Johnny, even while they are watching their child punch Johnny in the face. Yes, some parents are really like that. And trying to talk to a child who is having a tantrum, well, good luck with that.

So, how do you handle a situation like this. Well, when a child gets to the point were they can not be managed and are endangering others then by law the police are to be called. As far as handcuffing the child, that's where things start to get a little iffy. There are only so many legal ways to restrain a child, and handcuffing is one. However, for a child that young to be handcuffed, well, unless I was in the situation and knew exactly what was going on, I don't know. My first inclination would be no. But, then you do get children who will not be subdued in the usual manner.

 

[violakat]

I find it interesting that throwing furniture across the room, knocking shelves off the wall to hurt others is considered acceptable normal child behavior. Since when is throwing a tantrum acceptable?

 

[mit]

We'll I'm glad I still live in a society where "sparing the rod spoil the child is still upheld to some degree" as I disciplined(not even my child but) a friend's who was misbehaving, running up and down the house, swinging things around in the house. I pulled the cheek and the child became as calm & good as a lamb for the rest of the evening. Worked like magic.

Only problem is that even our culture is being totally swayed by modern worldwide culture/western culture. We all want to seem more modern and with the times as opposed to being more Godly and Christian. Of course, we had teachers use rods to properly straighten us and remove any crooked way in us but today only in few schools if any besides it has been outlawed recently but some parents wont have any problem with you especially if they know their child to be bad news, and as a teacher if you know the parent to be bad news you try to keep off and constantly send the child home (suspensions & expulsions). We have also seen the ugly of applying the rod, where on the news a child was bit, cut, burnt, injured, hospitalized, brutally beaten, died, etc which was the reason for outlawing the use of beating also in this society , only that the law takes longer to sink in the minds of many especially when it comes to within homes. It is a long story........ I stop there as far as schools/homes are concerned.

On one hand, It is sad to have such a case of a 6yr old in handcuffs. On the other hand, It is extremely bad parenting, I also blame the society we are all either greedy seeking the dollar and not caring, not having time (busy busy), we just push others around as we climb the ladder. On the other hand /leg/side, I would not like my kid to even be near that 6 yr old, he'll spoil my child (of course my child would be more thoughtful not to copy bad behaviour). I blame the church we just watch as laws are made as factions/ certain quarters of society decides for all of us and our voice is not heard. For instance what did you hear the church say about this case, I'm reminded it is no longer time to say/speak but for the church to ACT, do as we say/preach. Let us put the devil his place i.e. under our feet teach parentds to bring their children to Sunday school, not to reward bad behaviour, to know they will give an account before God, Let the young men and women fornicating,relationships and bringing children into this world whom they cannot take care of know they are failing God, themselves and society, Let the young men and women rushing into marriage and bringing children into this world whom they cannot take care of know they are failing God, themselves and society. No one has a right to do the negative, we owe it to God ,ourselves, the present society, the future generation to uphold family values and virtues.

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

At the elementary school I was being tutored at I was located in room 1 which is where children who can not function in mainstream classes go, I was there a few times when cops had to be called but never were they handcuffed, though they were restrained for their own safety.

 

[AnandaHya]

my son would be in SOOO much trouble that being handcuffed would be the LEAST tramatic thing that happened to him.

Tantrums are unacceptable and what some people don't recognize is that some parents don't really deserve the title because some of the kids live in homes where the supposed parents are drug addicts, abusers, or just plain neglectful. they hate the police.

think about it. the call is made to the parents. how long would it take YOU to respond? when did the parents get there? did they even show up at all?

we don't have the whole story but I do know some places where Child protective services should be called.

I've heard stories of babies being dropped off at daycare with diapers filled with poop and coachroaches.

there tends to be more to the story then meets the eye.

if you are a parent would you allow your child to throw a tantrum?

If you got a phone call from their school would you allow enough time to elapse for the police to be called and for the child to be handcuffed and taken to the police station?

this isn't a few minutes thing. it probably took at least a couple hours. then there is the paperwork involved in such an incident.

I've been around little kids and watched them intentionally beat upon and hurt their PARENTS and watched them be allowed to do it.

true the kids are only 2 or 3 and don't do much harm at that time but it is a very bad precedent and those little bullies grow up to be big bullies with no discipline or respect for any authority.

no social behaviors learned, always giving in to the lust of their flesh without the calm rational voice of a beloved parent restraining them from harming others or themselves.

I believe that child protective services should have been called to investigate the home situation of the child, medical examination given to the child to make sure it isn't because of a physical reason.

Some kids have trouble hearing or seeing and get frustrated and at violently because of that.

there is so much we DON'T know in the situation.

the child was handcuffed, was she beaten, tossed into a room alone, allowed to beat her head open on a wall?

Was she starved or in any way abused?

if your child was throwing a tantrum what do you do?

time out works if the child stays where you put them, ignoring them works when they aren't hurt themselves or others.

the best thing is to figure out what triggers the tantrums and attempt to prevent that from happening.

teachers don't always have the leisure to do that with 25 other kids to care for and teach.

 

[Pheonix]

Bad Parenting.
No where does it say it in the article but what the heck....this is not a temper tantrum, this is a full on rampage.
''Salecia Johnson, 6, was accused of tearing items off the walls and throwing books and toys in an outburst Friday at Creekside Elementary School in Milledgeville, according to a police report. Police said a small shelf thrown by the child struck the principal in the leg during the fracas. The child also jumped on a paper shredder and tried to break a glass frame, the police report states."

These are NOT the actions of a properly disciplined child....the schools not at fault, the police are not at fault. This girls parents are terrible parents and should have to pay the school for everything the kid destroyed.

Further down in the story...........
"Annette Montano, a mother in Albuquerque, N.M., said her 13-year-old son was arrested last year after burping in gym class. The tension between him and school officials led to several more run-ins, including a strip search after he was accused of selling drugs, she said."

Kid gets arrested for burping in class....not likely. I'm sure there was a heck of alot more leading up to that. This kid is probably a total menace that the school cannot handle.

None of these things happened when I was in school 15 years ago.

Teachers cannot do anything to the kids and if you talk to the kid and they wont calm down what are you supposed to do.The blame for these things lands directly on the parents who I'm sure are quite adept at dodging responsibility.

None of this happened when I was in school 10 years ago. Things have gotten steadily worse since columbine, and the more the authorities crack down, the worse it gets.

 

[Pheonix]

I don`t know about the US but here in canada I have heard of cases where the parents were charged with assault or something similar because they disciplined their child, with a simple spanking. I`ve even heard of one parent charged with unlawful confinement because the child mentioned at school that her mother had made her sit in a corner when she was unruly at home. It is becoming impossible to discipline children because of the legal system and government programs such as child services sticking their nose where it doesn`t belong. So how can we sit around blaming parents when they are being told they can`t tell their child no because it might endanger their emotional development and self identity.

 

[Matthew4Jesus]

Sickening isn't it.

 

[shellybell7]

What is truly sickening is the parents want to sue.... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh they are the PROBLEM!!!!!! like other posters have said before me... Kids don't jump on a paper shredder in a normal temper tantrum.. I think honestly handcuffs were the best for this kid and Thank God the police were able to restrain her and didn't have to taze her (then we'd be talking about a whole other thing) but I'm far more outraged about the parenting and I believe the parents need investigation because parenting is definitely lacking or she's being abused.