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TheGrungeDiva

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feedm3 said:
Chadteme,
this guy just likes to try bully people with his never ending nonsensical questions, just listen close to everything he says, and then it wont be long before he says something that is so out of line with scripture or contradicting, then all you have to do is expose it, ask him to explain it, and he will run faster than gump.

No one here thought that you felt you were Christ. Thats what I mean.
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Well, he was pretending that he had the right to judge, and if that doesn't indicate a false God complex, what does?

I've had my disagreements with Tribesman on other threads, but in this case he is spot-on. NO ONE, not even the most fundamentalist literalist evangelical Christian, follows the WHOLE Bible. We read the law but we are no longer under the Law because Jesus Christ set us free from the law. To claim that you follow the WHOLE BIBLE implies that you follow all 613 commandments in the old testament, including all the ones that Jesus and Paul said we no longer have to follow, which means we would be following one part of the Bible but not another. So it's impossible to follow the WHOLE Bible, because some parts contradict others. You much understand the WHOLE BIBLE in its context.

Now, if chadteme had said something to the effect of "Real Christians must interpret the WHOLE BIBLE through Jesus Christ" or something like that, I would have been supportive of that statement, because yes, as long as the Old Testament Law is interpreted through the grace of Christ's life, death, and glorious resurrection, then we're good. But some Christians try to follow that Law, or worse yet, judge others by it, when we've already been freed from it. Others ignore huge parts of the New Testament.

That is all we're trying to get at. The fact that chadteme refuses to admit it means he's just digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
 
tribesman

tribesman

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GD, I would not waste any breath on trying to seriously discuss with feedm3, a troll who is out to gainsay others and promote himself and his own ideas ad nauseum. Obviously proud over it too. I put him on ignore when he repeated the same question over and over again that I had already replied to. That proved to me that he's just here to argue for the sake of arguing. Meaningless to talk to such people.
 
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Chadtreme

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TheGrungeDiva said:
Why don't you show us an example of something that actually is in the Bible, rather than trying to write your own Bible as "an example" that doesn't even make any sense?
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It doesnt matter what i use for an example, because thats all it is an example. It not real.

But ok i will use one from the Bible.

Romans 14:1 "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but dont quarrel over opinions"

I dont know if you are wak in faith, but it does say dont fight over our different opinions. And if you keep reading, Romans 14:4 says to let the lord decide whether they are right or wrong.

So, like i always do when i read what the bible says i follow it. So ima not fight with you over this, and let the lord decide who was right and wrong. And so should you.

Good day.
 
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Chadtreme

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Yes Jesus did set us free from the old testament laws bout what about the new testament laws? The ones Jesus Goes over.
 
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rainacorn

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Chadtreme said:
OK, So this is a Christian website. N everyone here says they r Christian. If we r Christian y r some of us going against what the Bible says? Real Christians go with the whole Bible. They don't pick things out of the Bible they like n follow those. N the ones they don't like they don't follow. Real Christians follow the whole Bible. The Bible is our sword. Yu ppl who say yu r Christian but want to only follow things yu like. God is watching. So, you can say you r Christian here on earth n fool us humans but yu will never fool my lord Jesus.
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What do people have against the English language?

I don't understand this, but it makes me really sad. Our ability to communicate is a gift and they just poop all over it.

y r u ppl like this?

Dose it make the Bible hrd to rd cuz itz full wrds?
 
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Chadtreme said:
It doesnt matter what i use for an example, because thats all it is an example. It not real.

But ok i will use one from the Bible.

Romans 14:1 "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but dont quarrel over opinions"

I dont know if you are wak in faith, but it does say dont fight over our different opinions. And if you keep reading, Romans 14:4 says to let the lord decide whether they are right or wrong.

So, like i always do when i read what the bible says i follow it. So ima not fight with you over this, and let the lord decide who was right and wrong. And so should you.

Good day.
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Of course it matters much what example you use when you go out and claim that others don't "follow the whole Bible", something which you profess to do. You need to learn to express and stand for your own position and also to back up your claims when you criticize others. A simple "they are wrong, I am right, because I say so" and then leave your own thread won't do.

You wrote "let the lord decide who was right and wrong". That is only good when you feel you wish not to post anymore in your own thread, which was based on that others are wrong and you are right? That won't do either, pal.

Are you sure you know what Romans 14 is all about? Have you read up on the background of what is written there or have you been taught by christian teachers on same? Or do you just read "literally" what it says without minding the context and environment in which that text was written?

I would advice you to be a little more careful with these issues, young man. First make your case, then present it.
 
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Chadtreme

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Ok, about what i put about real christian follow the whole bible. Who is our king, our lord? Jesus Chrits is our lord and his father is Our god.
When Jesus was here on earth, he didnt pick out things he liked about the scriptures n teach about those things and leave the other things out because he didnt like them. He followed all of the scriptures and trough about them all. So, who are we to pick and choose?? Our lord Didnt pick and choose.
 
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Chadtreme said:
Ok, about what i put about real christian follow the whole bible. Who is our king, our lord? Jesus Chrits is our lord and his father is Our god.
When Jesus was here on earth, he didnt pick out things he liked about the scriptures n teach about those things and leave the other things out because he didnt like them. He followed all of the scriptures and trough about them all. So, who are we to pick and choose?? Our lord Didnt pick and choose.
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You are right about this. But then again you have also (rightly) admitted that you are not Christ. You don't happen to see a conflict here?
 
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Chadtreme

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I am not Christ, but I do try to look more like him everyday. Since i became a believer, i said we are not perfect until we look at ourselves in the mirror and see Jesus. The bible says everyone falls short of Gods glory. Jesus was the only one that didnt fall short. Since we all sin we can't become like christ, but that dont mean we can't try.

If you believe you dont have to follow everything then so be it. But as for me Im going to do everything that the bible says to do and do what is Chirst like.
 
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Chadtreme said:
I am not Christ, but I do try to look more like him everyday. Since i became a believer, i said we are not perfect until we look at ourselves in the mirror and see Jesus. The bible says everyone falls short of Gods glory. Jesus was the only one that didnt fall short. Since we all sin we can't become like christ, but that dont mean we can't try.

If you believe you dont have to follow everything then so be it. But as for me Im going to do everything that the bible says to do and do what is Chirst like.
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I believe we have to follow everything that Christ said. But, like you, I also believe we are not Christ.

You do obviously not yet see the conflict between these two factors and the contradiction in your words above. But hopefully you have time to learn.
 
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feedm3

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TheGrungeDiva said:
Well, he was pretending that he had the right to judge, and if that doesn't indicate a false God complex, what does?

I've had my disagreements with Tribesman on other threads, but in this case he is spot-on. NO ONE, not even the most fundamentalist literalist evangelical Christian, follows the WHOLE Bible. We read the law but we are no longer under the Law because Jesus Christ set us free from the law. To claim that you follow the WHOLE BIBLE implies that you follow all 613 commandments in the old testament, including all the ones that Jesus and Paul said we no longer have to follow, which means we would be following one part of the Bible but not another. So it's impossible to follow the WHOLE Bible, because some parts contradict others. You much understand the WHOLE BIBLE in its context.

Now, if chadteme had said something to the effect of "Real Christians must interpret the WHOLE BIBLE through Jesus Christ" or something like that, I would have been supportive of that statement, because yes, as long as the Old Testament Law is interpreted through the grace of Christ's life, death, and glorious resurrection, then we're good. But some Christians try to follow that Law, or worse yet, judge others by it, when we've already been freed from it. Others ignore huge parts of the New Testament.

That is all we're trying to get at. The fact that chadteme refuses to admit it means he's just digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
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yea I agree, we are not under the whole Bible, and others should not judge anyone by the OT laws.
 
Spartacus1122

Spartacus1122

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A REAL Christian is one who believes in Christ's divinity, and lives life according to His teachings.

Proclaiming self-righteousness and religious superiority is not the way.
 
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feedm3

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Spartacus1122 said:
A REAL Christian is one who believes in Christ's divinity, and lives life according to His teachings.

Proclaiming self-righteousness and religious superiority is not the way.
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Of not, I am just say I am more righteousness and superior them most not all
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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feedm3 said:
Of not, I am just say I am more righteousness and superior them most not all
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Why do I feel like I've just had a conversation with a house cat?

I can haz cheezberger?
 
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Blu_Bug

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Chadtreme said:
Ill tell you the same thing Jesus said to the leading priest. By whose authority did john the Baptist baptized in?
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Your answer is through Jehovahs NAME
 
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feedm3

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'no proof "raeding allwolled on thraeds, Got it?.!"
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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I have a 2-year-old who has just started to string words together, and is almost making complete sentences. He has a better grasp of the English language than some of the posters here. How pathetic is that?
 
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